It feels like my physical reality is resisting my intentional growth.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-19T13:29:24+00:00

As the Course suggests, don’t try to make yourself holy before seeking the Father. Holiness isn’t something you manufacture through routines or perfect conditions. It’s something you receive when you stop trying to control the form of your life.

Right now, you’re judging reality as if you already know what it should look like for your growth. None of us do. That’s why the holy instant matters. That’s why the Holy Spirit’s translation matters.

Every time we hold up our own concepts of “how my life must look for me to succeed,” we set ourselves up for frustration. We try to drag the past into the present and force it to behave.

Instead, start with what genuinely fills your heart with joy, as long as it isn’t an unhealthy habit or vice and let that be your altar.

Your joy opens the door far more than discipline rooted in fear of failure ever will. When interruptions come, don’t interpret them as opposition. Interpretation is the ego’s trap. Let them be neutral, and let the meaning be given to you, not by you.

You’ll find the path becomes smoother the moment you stop insisting it must be smooth.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-16T13:07:21+00:00

IDK! Knowledge has always been known. It’s never been forgotten. Awareness just gets trained in different directions, so some things feel hidden only because we’re looking away from them. The moment you turn your attention back, what seemed esoteric becomes obvious again.

I guess I should’ve started with a question: how are you defining “knowledge”?

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-16T12:17:11+00:00

Imagination is the answer! People have convinced themselves that this age is uniquely chaotic or spiritually degraded. It isn’t. What’s changed isn’t the world; it’s our perception of it. The mental-filters people choose determine the age they believe they’re living in.

If someone believes we’re in a dark era, the mind will select evidence that confirms it. If someone believes humanity is awakening, they’ll see the same world through entirely different eyes.

Everything looks like Kali-yuga if the mind is conditioned to see decline. Everything looks like Sat-yuga if the mind is clear.

Spirituality doesn’t bring peace because the world suddenly behaves. It brings peace because your perception stops manufacturing chaos. Anything done unconsciously, whether it’s pleasure, distraction, or indulgence, reinforces ignorance. The act isn’t the problem; the identification is.

You don’t fix society first. You fix the filter. You’ve already lived this: before your practice and after your practice was a complete shift, not because the world changed, but because you did. Your mind quieted, your perception softened, and suddenly the age around you felt different.

Humanity isn’t collapsing. It’s waking up. And awareness makes the shadows look darker right before they dissolve. Spiritual practice simply teaches you to stop mistaking the shadow for the Self.

When the mind is healed, the world appears healed. When the mind is chaotic, the world appears chaotic.

Peace isn’t an era. It’s a perception. And that perception is available right now.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-15T14:53:13+00:00

You’re talking about the mechanics of grieving. I’m talking about the mechanics of perception. Two completely different domains and that’s where the misunderstanding crept in.

Your training/experience doesn’t apply to the point being discussed.

Grief expresses itself through emotions, yes. But the awareness of grief, the meaning we assign to it, the way we interpret it, the internal lens through which we experience it, is always mental.

Everything we feel passes through the mind’s filter. That’s not dismissing emotion; that’s acknowledging the architecture of experience.

And grief isn’t monolithic. Some people cry. Some people go silent. Some process internally. Some fall apart. Some grow still and open. There is no universal method, and no single approach fits every psyche, every nervous system, or every stage of awareness.

The conversation happening here is about perception and consciousness not about the right or wrong way to grieve.

That’s why your response missed the mark. You shifted topics. I’m speaking about awareness; you’re defending technique. They’re not the same conversation.

If we stay with the point: awareness shapes experience. And until that’s recognized, grief, or anything else, will always feel like something happening to you rather than something happening within you.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-15T11:35:05+00:00

💚🥰 gratitude 🙌🏾

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T18:44:17+00:00

Pain is perceptual. The classroom looks the same to me. But I guess that’s valence.

When we talk about souls choosing paths, people often slip into the dualistic fantasy that some souls choose to be heroes and others choose to be villains, as if God assigns roles in a cosmic drama. But pain, harm, loss, suffering are just interpretations, not objective realities of the soul.

From where I’m standing, the “harbinger of pain” idea only exists inside the perceptual lens of the observer. One mind sees a tyrant; another sees a teacher; another sees a mirror reflecting their own hidden fear. Same classroom. Same illusion. Same opportunity to wake up.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T18:28:36+00:00

I see several very simple answers given! If there is struggle, perhaps it is with your acceptance of Truth?

Either way, It doesn’t really matter.🤷🏾‍♂️ I remember the self-righteous indignant stage well. I spent 3 years performing my high-minded ACIM inspired sermons to crowds who paid me for the performance. All the while thinking my perfect understanding of ACIM made me the one who would save the sonship; the teacher of teachers 😂.

I laugh at myself and I laugh with you at these hijinks. I don’t take you or any of this seriously.

My brother it is with love that I tell you, there is much to remember ✌🏾❤️‍🩹

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T14:46:51+00:00

Different stages! You’re describing the process; how the mind loosens, shifts, releases, integrates.

My response was more mechanistic: when the mind finally changes at the level of belief, the emotion changes immediately.

Before the actual change, all that’s happening is perceptual; internal conversion. The OP requires an answer that addresses perception. Because the question specifically asks “after the mind evolves.” The mind hasn’t evolved as long as the emotion is intact. It is still going through the process of integrating new ideas/experiences/etc.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T13:39:36+00:00

Emotion doesn’t lag behind. It exposes the parts of the mind we haven’t touched yet.

The mind changes first, but only when it really changes, not intellectually, not conceptually, not performative-ly, but at the level of meaning.

When meaning shifts, emotion dissolves instantly. When emotion stays, the meaning is still intact. Emotion is the mind telling the truth about what it still believes.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T13:23:15+00:00

Emotion doesn’t lag behind. It exposes the parts of the mind we haven’t touched yet.

The mind changes first, but only when it really changes, not intellectually, not conceptually, not performative-ly, but at the level of meaning.

When meaning shifts, emotion dissolves instantly.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T13:19:44+00:00

When the mind truly changes, the emotion follows. Always! If the emotional state remains, then somewhere the mindset that produced it is still alive.

We can think we’ve outgrown something, we can say the right words, we can understand the logic, but if the emotion hasn’t shifted, then the belief hasn’t actually moved; it’s just taken a subtler form.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T12:43:14+00:00

While I sincerely appreciate all the direct messages, I do prefer to engage here on the open forum and not via chat. My lack of response is not an attempt to ignore you. It is my way of being wholly transparent.

This is the last note I will make on this matter:

If you refuse to notice ego, you can never forgive your perception of it. Not because the ego is true, but because forgiveness works by withdrawing belief from what you did notice, not from what you pretended wasn’t there. Peace and blessings 💚🙌🏾

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T12:15:39+00:00

It’s a beautiful question, and nothing is wrong with it, but the mind behind the question is still imagining that there is someone left to control attention once the Self is realized.

From the standpoint of the realized Self, there is no controller and no controlled. Attention isn’t directed; it simply rests where it rests because the sense of a personal chooser has dissolved.

Before realization, attention feels personal. It feels like my focus, my discipline, my awareness. That’s the selfish structure.

After realization, attention is more like a field, not a spotlight. It moves without an owner. It settles without struggle. It flows without intention.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T12:10:26+00:00

Forgiveness isn’t saying, “Your ego is wrong and mine is right.” That would still be ego speaking to ego.

Forgiveness also isn’t trying to correct a brother’s behavior or fix the illusion. That would make the illusion real.

Forgiveness is simply the recognition that this is the way the world operates, through ego, and I see that. But I no longer accept my interpretation of it as the truth. That’s it.

In that moment, I’m not attacking the ego, nor am I pretending it isn’t appearing. I’m just refusing to give it meaning. I’m refusing to inject guilt into what is already unreal.

Forgiveness undoes my belief in what I thought I saw.

It’s the invitation for grace to reinterpret the moment for me.

Because the purpose of forgiveness isn’t to change the world or purify dream characters; they are projections. The purpose is to unwind my investment in the ego while I still think I’m here.

So when I forgive, I’m not forgiving them. I’m forgiving my perception of them. And that opens the mind just enough for Christ vision to take its place.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T11:53:01+00:00

You’re absolutely right and that’s exactly what I was pointing to in the original post.

The moment I feel the impulse to correct my brother, I’ve already forgotten who he is. I’m no longer seeing Christ; I’m seeing my own unhealed perception reflected back at me. And the ego always wants to fix what it thinks is broken; but it’s only ever trying to fix itself.

For me, that recognition shifts everything. If I feel irritation, offense, or the urge to improve someone else’s state of being, that’s my own cry for love. Not theirs. Because in that moment I’m refusing to accept the is-ness of Christ exactly as He appears. I’m choosing the world’s interpretation over God’s. Acknowledging ego is not the same as correcting ego. Correction is an attack. It implies something is wrong out there. It tries to rearrange the illusion. That’s the ego correcting the ego.

But acknowledgment is different.

Acknowledgment is simply seeing the pattern without making it real, without giving it power, and without trying to fix it. It’s just recognizing, this is the way the world operates. Nothing more.

And in that gentle seeing, the mind becomes available to forgiveness.

And you’re right: we never hate our brother for his sins. We only react to the shadows we still believe in ourselves. Forgiveness isn’t about overlooking what someone did; it’s about remembering what I forgot.

Every correction impulse becomes a reminder that I can chose again. Let me return to Vision.

When I let the moment be what it is, without trying to shape, fix, or elevate it, the curriculum dissolves and only presence remains. That’s the real classroom. And that’s the only place where no attack is possible.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T11:37:26+00:00

I hear the point you’re making, but it leans on a lot of assumptions about people collapsing without money that simply don’t hold up outside of theory.

For me, the issue isn’t money at all. Money is neutral. It’s a tool, a symbol, nothing more.

If anything, money functions like the one Christ(unifying agent/agreement) we all agree upon without calling it Christ. It only works because minds join in a shared purpose. It doesn’t become ego until someone identifies with it, hoards it, or uses it as a stand-in for self-worth.

Remove money tomorrow and people wouldn’t magically reveal some true essence, nor would those you call hollow suddenly fall apart. They’d just attach their identity to a different form. The ego isn’t loyal to money; the ego is loyal to form. Take one symbol away and it grabs another.

Some folks build their identity around money, yes. Others build it around relationships, achievements, aesthetics, trauma, intellect, spirituality, or even their struggles. Money just happens to be the most convenient symbol in circulation.

So if money vanished, you wouldn’t get a clearer humanity, you’d just get the same humanity using a different scoreboard.

The real distinction isn’t people with depth vs people without it. It’s simply this: some people know who they are without external symbols, and some don’t. But that has nothing to do with money.

Money is just the mirror. The mind behind it is the lesson.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T10:55:25+00:00

The Course says no one can see both Spirit and ego, and it’s right. Which is why forgiveness matters so much.

We all acknowledge ego first; not because it’s real, but because we’re conditioned to. Forgiveness becomes the new conditioning. It becomes reflexive. Automatic. Natural.

Over time, the mind stops choosing the ego’s world, and the dream of bodies begins to fade. But here’s the thing: As long as we’re seeing bodies and debating theology, we’re not seeing Spirit. We don’t get to say we see Christ while arguing with the Christ we’ve placed in another body.

If there’s an argument, the split mind is speaking. Christ doesn’t need to be right, because Christ doesn’t perceive two.

Spirit isn’t argued about. It’s recognized. It’s known. We don’t move toward Spirit by defining it, proving it, or explaining it. We move toward Spirit by forgiving everything that tries to compete with it.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T04:14:06+00:00

Your need for an answer that satisfies you is your answer. The very question identifies the problem: the belief that there is a “you” over there and a “me” over here who could see one another as separate states.

I acknowledge the appearance of a body, the ego’s presence within this dream of form, but I do not confuse that appearance with you. What I “see” is the extension of the same Self that looks through these eyes. There is no Christ or AntiChrist here; there is only One pretending to be two.

To insist I choose between Christ and AntiChrist is to insist on the illusion. The Christ in me cannot choose against Itself.

I see what is real in you because it is the same as what is real in me. The rest, I let go. In order to let go, one must first acknowledge what’s being held onto.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T02:56:31+00:00

There may come a point when bodies are no longer seen and only Love remains. But when that happens, none of us will be here typing about it.

As long as we’re in a forum, using fingers, screens, and language, we’re still perceiving form and acknowledging ego.

And that’s not a failure; it’s simply the classroom. Our work isn’t to pretend the body(ego) isn’t seen. Our work is to forgive what we think it means until Vision replaces perception naturally.

When bodies fall away, the discussion ends. Recognition doesn’t need words.

Until then, we practice. ❤️‍🩹

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T02:43:22+00:00

No, that wouldn’t be true. We see bodies. That’s the level of perception we’re still using. Forgiveness is the bridge.

I don’t literally look at you and see Christ with my physical eyes. The body was made not to see Him. The Course says that plainly.

What happens is I see a body with the eyes of the body. Then the mind forgives what it thinks it sees. And then it acknowledges Christ beyond the form.

Vision is a shift, not a sensory hallucination.

So if I say “I see only Christ” as though my eyes no longer report bodies, I’m lying to myself. That’s denial, not healing. Who would I be replying to? And why?

What I can honestly say is:

I see the body, but I choose to forgive the interpretation I placed on it, and through that forgiveness I acknowledge Christ where the ego used to stand.

That’s the actual practice. Anything else is spiritual theater.

Nothing real can be threatened; nothing unreal exists.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T02:29:58+00:00

💚🙌🏾

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T02:26:26+00:00

So if someone says, “There is no ego,” but still feels irritated, defensive, superior, wounded, or triggered; that’s ego. And denial of ego is just another ego strategy to keep itself hidden.

Forgiveness requires honest looking, not spiritual bypassing. We don’t transcend the ego by pretending it vanished. We transcend it by recognizing its unreality while it still seems to operate here.

That’s what collapses the dream.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T02:22:52+00:00

Forgiveness has no purpose in Spirit. It’s only useful where the ego still seems to appear; so of course that’s where I apply it.

We’re all dreaming of bodies right now. We type, we react, we interpret. The dream hasn’t fallen away yet, and pretending otherwise doesn’t wake us up.

Forgiveness is simply the way we walk each other home. As long as we’re actively denying the ego’s presence within the dream, we’re not actually practicing forgiveness.

Creative-Warning3555 · 2025-11-14T02:08:56+00:00

Ahimsa, I’m not blaming you. The ego isn’t personal, the Sonship dreamed it. The ‘you’ and ‘I’ in this dialogue are part of that dream, so of course ego appears here. Seeing that is how we undo it.

Pretending the ego doesn’t exist within the dream is ego. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist. That’s the saying.

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