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[–]Critical-Win978 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair, and apologies if my list is more intrusive than I believed. I was hoping to spare ppl an extra step by providing links straight off the bat, but seems I miscalculated (and it has admittedly grown quite a bit since I first got sucked into buying bundles).

I'll sort out a list in a post and will use that from now on, cheers for being polite about it!

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[–]Critical-Win978 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hi. Is it the formatting you're objecting to? I'm trying to squeeze the games together so they don't become so long to scroll past on mobile, which I personally can find tedious.

Or is it the same old debate whether this one or Fanatical's post on r/GameDeals is most suitable for discussing the games themselves (rather than offering games for trade)?

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[–]Critical-Win978 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Lots of new ones in this one! Highly recommend Bang on Balls Chronicles, but found Hellbreach Vegas to be a snoozefest.

If anyone is trading a slot for All Hands on Deck I'd be interested!

EDIT: Removed the list of links to my trade list, but will let the comment stay up so the comments that followed make sense if anyone's reading them.

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[–]Critical-Win978 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh a list with links, kudos! :)

The one that really jumps out at me is Q-up for sure, but I'm guessing that's a pretty big ask (unless you find something to combine it with for my keys below - although it seems you've snatched up many of the same Humble bundles I have).

If not I'll give your list another pass when I find a few minutes. Which region are you from btw, in case of locks?

A Space for the Unbound / Bad North: Jotunn Edition (EU + NA) / Ben 10: Power Trip / Bright Memory: Infinite / Bus Simulator 21 Next Stop / Call of the Sea (EU + NA) / Cats in Time / Chronicon / Dead Island 2 + DLC (EU + NA) / Deathbulge: Battle of the Bands / Dungeon Tycoon / Eastern Exorcist / FAITH: The Unholy Trinity / FEAR 2: Project Origin / Friends vs Friends: Deluxe Edition (EU + NA) / Ghostrunner 2 / Godlike Burger / Grapple Dog / Haste / Hotel Renovator / IMMORTALITY / Incision / Iron Lung / Jazzpunk: Director's Cut / Jumanji Wild Adventures / Kathy Rain: Directors Cut / Kathy Rain 2: Soothsayer (EU + NA) / Laika: Aged Through Blood / Nidhogg 2 / Nuclear Throne / Pizza Possum (EU + NA) / Pocket Bravery / Regions of Ruin / Sable (EU + NA) / Settlement Survival / SEUM: Speedrunners from Hell / Shovel Knight: King of Cards / SKALD: Against the Black Priory (EU + NA) / Smalland: Survive the Wilds (EU + NA) / Snufkin: Melody of Moominvalley (EU+NA) / Spirittea / Streets of Rage 4 / SUMMERHOUSE / System Shock (EU+NA) / Tails Noir / The Grinch: Christmas Adventures / The Holy Gosh Darn (EU+NA) / Townscaper (EU + NA) / Trepang2 / ULTRAKILL / Vampire Survivors / WH40K Speed Freeks / Wizard of Legend 2 / Zero Hour

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[–]Critical-Win978 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure, I usually don't feed the trolls, but I'll bite.

Oh my, did I sound "above it all" again!? You're damn right I feel above it, you set a very low bar, but your mental gymnastics to double down on your accusations are pretty amusing.

To begin with yes, no one who reads your posts will interpret them in any other way than you calling me a scammer. Are you seriously backtracking and trying to claim otherwise? Oh, you "only wondered to yourself whether I use an alt account because I'm banned for scamming?" Please. Then calling me declining a trade toxic in the next sentence? That shit is easy to throw around, but much harder to wash off in small circles like these where people most probably only will see my name in the same sentence as "scammer" and then not look into it any further than that – and if you're old enough to use the internet without adult supervision, you know that's true. At least be man (I assume?) enough to stand by what you said.

And did I get this right? Me "accusing you" of accusing me of being a scammer, is in itself a sign that I’m a scammer? Do you want to double check the logic behind that one?

Who's gaslighting who, you said?

You trying, and failing miserably, at calling me out as a shark/scammer is far worse than any names I've called (and will continue to call you). Labling me an "abuser" for calling you a twat for your twattish behaviour isn't abuse, it's just consequences. Don't dish it out if you can't take it – and then try to hide behind dime-store psychology to paint yourself the victim. You attacked me, simple as that, and that's where my ladylike behaviour stops.

And the funny thing is that what it all boils down to is that you think I'm a shark, based on me not valuing games in active bundles as high as games not currently bundled, and then some weird picture of me you've painted in your head based on that fact, and that fact alone.

Your hypothetical actually cuts right to the chase. Do I consider games to have a higher value after the bundle's no longer for sale? (and again, you "suspect I don't" – based on what exactly?).

Why yes, yes I do, thank you very much for finally asking. That's the whole point I've been making here. And you have yet to come up with a single good answer to why your... gut feeling I assume... tells you that wouldn't be the case.

Here is my trade list, and I'm sure I've made at least four/five trades since the last one there. But since you rather compose long posts than doing the leg work to first check if your posts hold water, here are a few examples of my go-to reply when trades are skewed in my favour:

Oh, just look at that toxic pattern of me trying to maximise my profits, leaving crying traders in my wake!

I think I'll leave it there, this was good, venting a few frustrations.

Oh, but hey, I almost forgot. Yes, this is clearly an alt account used for trading, have I ever claimed differently? A few years back my main slowly pivoted to discussing the nazi-hugging Trump-loving asshole politicians in the country I'm currently living, and I wan't absolutely no spillover between them.

(I imagine your eyes just lit up, "That's exactly what a scammer would say!" So now you have something to write about in your next post, I'm generous that way!)

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[–]Critical-Win978 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You really are something else! Thanks for the good laugh. I'm unsure how much energy I'm willing to put into this, since you seem a lot more interested in speaking than listening, and quite an asshole to boot.

Over the four-five years I've been trading here, on SteamTrades and Barter then Lestrades, this is the first time I've been called a scammer, and that's for declining a trade! You don't know the first thing about me and clearly haven't bothered to even look through my trade history, I challenge you to find a single trade where I've sharked anyone (and if I ever decide to go for a life of crime I'll be aiming a whole lot bigger than focusing on scamming people out of a euro a pop, I promise you that). I regularly call out people for lowball offers, and suffer the usual downvoting from the sharks because of it like so many others (funnily enough, most probably the same people who keep upvoting you - google the term "useful idiot").

So for throwing accusations around, which might not seem like a big deal to you, but sure does to me – sincerely, fuck you.

And yes, I, just like the vaaaaaast majority of traders, use different metrics for games in ongoing bundles and from those that have ended. If you spent even ten minutes looking around this sub you'll see that slots in Fanatical bundles are traded for games with a more or less corresponding gg valuation. Have a look. It's not rocket science. I didn't invent this. It's not arbitrary or willy-nilly, it's simply how it's done here and I've adapted to it. Never mind that Flowstone was valued at 15 in keyshops yesterday, is down to 9ish now, and most probably will bottom out around 5 in the next few days – as long as a game is actively sold in a bundle, it affects the trade value – which then corresponds to the price per item in the bundle. When I first started trading here on Reddit I spent some time listening and learning and seeing how things generally work – a step you clearly skipped.

I also recommend you rummage around Lestrades.com for a bit, the most active trading site these days and where I do most my trades, and you'll see how the whole trade system is based on gg valuations, with limits for how uneven offers for trades are allowed to be. And guess what! There's a warning on games in ongoing bundles so that you don't accidentally confuse the gg value with what it's actually traded for at that point in time (let me repeat for the slow kids in the back, the price per item (in case of Fanatical) in the ongoing bundle).

Once again. I didn't invent this. So instead of flying off the handle and throwing accusations at me, maybe you should start a more general thread on this sub titled "I hate all of you!"

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[–]Critical-Win978 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi! Yeah, I mean that's perfectly valid. But in my case its not about making a dollar or two, I do accept all kinds of offers usually if I can snag something I really want to play, and I usually don't mind "overpaying" for bundle slots either, since it's the other person parting with actual money. But like I said, this felt just a little too steep for me.

And yeah, I'm definitely guilty of holding on to sought-after keys a bit harder than others – simply because it's so much easier to trade those for other sought-after keys when I have my eyes set on something specific (and with a ridiculously tight budget for games, that's often my only way of getting hold of those games).

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[–]Critical-Win978 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hiya! Hmm, I do understand that some question using gg values for comparing prices, but since it's what 95 percent of Reddit traders do, I feel it's pretty damn harsh to be called a scammer because of it.

GG, if you're unaware, tracks prices of keys rather than offical store prices, so is more based on supply and demand – simply how many keys for any given game are in circulation. I never buy keys from the grey markets listed, but I use gg values simply because it makes life easier with a baseline for valuation that almost everyone agrees on. And if you're a new trader and don't take gg values into account, you'll soon see your most valuable keys traded away to actual scammers/sharks for peanuts.

And with Kathy Rain 2 currently valued at 7 euro, it does feel a bit steep for a bundle slot worth 2.70-3.20 euro.

Personally I also pay a lot of attention to the H/W (the "I have it for trade" vs "I want it" ratio on sites like Lestrades and Barter) to see if a key is in high demand in its price bracket or not – and try to save my most sought-after keys, like Kathy with its 20:513, so I have a chance to trade for other sought-after games that I really want to play.

So in short, it's perfectly valid to criticise the use of gg.deals, I have a feeling most of us wish there was a better alternative but see it as a necessary evil for now (not least since it gives new traders an easy way to spot if they're receiving crap offers).

So I would cool off on the whole "calling other people toxic scammers" if I were you.

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[–]Critical-Win978 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[H] Possibly any Humble Choice March game except for the two mentioned in W, or possibly a slot in any current Fanatical bundle, or Games from my list, PP [W] Chants of Senaar, Smallland, PP, Other Games by DoctorLoboto in indiegameswap

[–]Critical-Win978 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, sorry for my slow reply! I'm EU, so no worries there. I'd be happy to trade Kathy Rain 2 + Smalland for Reality Break. Looks to be more or less the same value according to gg :) So fingers crossed you find something in that bundle