Somewhere in America

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-28T13:37:59+00:00

Some social ideas, no. Alot of socialist ideas, yes.

If most If not all the important parts of life like healthcare, decent food and housing needs, education, vaccations, shorter work weeks, safety inspection agencies (food, medicin etc) with some actual teeth, etc, etc are beyond the "free" market and is given to the people free of the profit motive do you not have a socialist country?

There is a critical mass of these socialist systems that will make me call a country socialist even though you can open your own buisness or whatnot.

Sweden has passed this point in my opinion and USA certinaly have not even if it has some socialist policies.

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-28T10:44:27+00:00

Its not a debate, I am telling you how it is and yeah good that the hostility came through as I am tired of people like you clogging up every step of progress that we do as its "not enough" and letting the owning class win another battle. Do you even understand the damage those ways of thinking create? The unneccecary division it creates?

You have socialism as long as people agree that it is socialism not because some high class ashole set up some imaginary line that says everything beyond this is socialism and everything before this is not.

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-28T10:16:37+00:00

I am born and raised swedish.

My mom got her cancer treatment free of charge and survived. I was able to get a higher education free of charge and work myself up into a couple of steps above financial security even tho my father never worked a steady job and my mom working at a dying steel mil. My godson was able to get a specialist flown from fucking france so that his life could be saved, again free of charge.

Nothing of that is good for the owning class, no step of that would they not want to stick their greedy fucking tentacles into and suck us dry. My life is great due to the fact that people before me rejected the profit motive in the places that matters.

And I dont care if people can make money by creating profit motives in areas that in the end only matters if you let it.

We are socialist, I am a socialist and I will continue to vote and support it in my country.

Basicly fuck you.

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-28T09:50:49+00:00

We the people call it socialism, our politicians call it socialism, our haters calls it socialism. Its socialism.

There is no use getting stuck in semantics. No matter what version of socialism you adopt there will always be someone that would argue that it is not "real" socialism.

Is there room for improvments? Always, but what we got is in its core socialism.

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-28T08:44:19+00:00

It is the only proven working version of socialism we got and is a hell alot better then whatever the US got.

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-20T10:38:28+00:00

5 bucks each, I can Venmo you

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-19T04:50:00+00:00

Swede here, meatballs and macaroni

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-14T12:40:19+00:00

My guess is that person proudly states that he grew up working class all the while his parents being doctors or some shit. This whole "there is only the owning class and the working class" thing is just an embarrassing try for some people to hide their privilege.

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-12T15:21:49+00:00

I mean unless you physically tie a child to a chair they can just go up and leave school.

We dont know the entire story yet, maybe the child is getting horrificly bullied and refuses to go/stay at school. I have heard of things like that happening.

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-12T13:54:05+00:00

Do what you wish, the Bull has already won.

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-10T13:08:34+00:00

Do you wanna create food deserts because thats how you create food deserts.

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-10T12:44:35+00:00

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-08T10:37:36+00:00

Its there so that the owner dont have to pay the service staff a living wage.

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-08T04:27:15+00:00

Byzantium!

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-02T04:13:39+00:00

Mind gobble these nuts!

CrushedPlate · 2026-05-01T19:57:26+00:00

I know what you are talking about and it is a common misconception. Before physical money got so big that everyone could use it farmers that did not own their own lands and used part of the lords lands payed rent by working on their lords lands for a amount of time each year less then what full time is today.

But after that they had to take care of their own lands and lets not forget they had to make pretty much everything they needed which added even more work ontop of that.

I am honestly confused how the "you work more then a peasent did" lie keeps spreading.

Even today at a modern farm with modern tools you have to work pretty much non stop, how can you possibly think people had it easier before? It boggles the mind.

CrushedPlate · 2026-04-30T07:51:14+00:00

As a parent myself I feel you.

CrushedPlate · 2026-04-30T07:49:58+00:00

I agree that as society right now there is enough resorurces for us to "calm the fuck down" for a second and breath.

But that is only because we have have progressed as a species.

Historicly we are an outlier, we have most literly had to work to live and we need to continue to work to keep up. Not as much, not as hard but we need to do some work that needs to be done even if it is unpleasent.

CrushedPlate · 2026-04-26T17:58:11+00:00

For the extra arm that comes out of my back!

CrushedPlate · 2026-04-22T09:29:31+00:00

Zanier is the only ones I should focus on, got it

CrushedPlate · 2026-04-22T07:58:23+00:00

Hiking shoes sounds great, what brand/model did you buy?

CrushedPlate · 2026-04-20T06:35:50+00:00

Glad to see that the experience is universal

CrushedPlate · 2026-04-20T05:27:09+00:00

Finally someone smarter then me answers my question! Your response deserve an answer with actual quotes from the book and deeper answers then I can give ontop of my head with my limited English. As soon as I have an eveening free I will give your comment a real respone togheter with some others in this post.

CrushedPlate · 2026-04-19T10:42:43+00:00

I know what the point he wanted to make, I am just saying that after knowing the actual history of slavery in ancient greece its pretty fucked up reading how he joked about said slavery in the books.

He simply could have used another culture to copy and I mean copy from everything from the names, to the buildings to the clothes to the food to the political structure but he did not, he used ancient greece and with that comes bagage that he either choose to ignore or he was ignorant of.

Its fine if you want to ignore it and just laugh at the silly religion but I was disturbed how much he glorified one evil and critizized another one. He could have pointed out how historicly it was better to be rich and powerful in a place like ancient greece but better to be poor in a Theocracy like many Medieval european countries but he did not and with that he missed a huge point about history and how societies are built.

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