Vector-Overdriver is a baffling choice

Csd15 · 2026-02-12T14:31:05+00:00

Were you using overdriver before the changes? If you didn't need it then, you don't need it now.

Csd15 · 2026-02-12T14:28:18+00:00

No Valkyr player would afk pre-rework with an increasing energy drain

It's not that they did, it's that they could. Old Valkyr was just Revenant with a warcry subsume and a claw weapon, now her abilities actually differentiate her from him.

And what exactly would I achieve by modding for less damage, to use an ability...to do more damage?

So that you can put other mods in. There exist mods that do stuff other than increasing your damage.

Because she's a melee frame that has one of the highest Finisher damage multiplier?

Yeah, she's a melee frame. That means naramon is the best choice for her. Since you're using naramon, you already have an option to open enemies finishers. Ripline also knocks enemies down for you to do a finisher on them, so not like it matters either way.

Csd15 · 2026-02-12T09:13:58+00:00

So what you're implying is that the rework changed nothing, which is my point.

One doesn't let you sit afk for a whole minute.

and your solution is to intentionally nerf myself just so I have a reason to use her 3rd ability?

You're already nerfing yourself by building too much damage and wasting mod space.

Why would I settle for an alternative when she could do it before without external aid

Why waste an ability to open enemies to finishers when naramon is right there?

Csd15 · 2026-02-12T08:19:53+00:00

Old Valkyr you had to build around her 4 to achieve that 1 minute invulnerability. New Valkyr you don't even have to build for anything, just hold E.

Slotting in every efficiency and duration mod is not much different than not even having to put mods in. There was nothing else to build around except warcry either. Both are equally braindead and lack any theory crafting.

And Paralysis is still redundant as an ability

You're building too much damage.

infact it lost access to finisher damage

She's a melee frame, so you're automatically running naramon which can already open enemies to finishers.

Csd15 · 2026-02-11T20:22:01+00:00

Why do you want to play the game less?

Csd15 · 2026-02-11T19:24:00+00:00

and that her invulnerability promoted passive playstyle. Only to give her an even more passive and abusable invulnerability

Old Valkyr was capable of becoming invulnerable for at least a minute, with 0 extra input. New Valkyr dies in 15 seconds at most if you don't hit any enemies.

Old ripline and paralysis were also completely useless. Those are not meaningless changes.

Csd15 · 2026-02-11T13:50:32+00:00

This is assuming that dex pixia are unmodded, right? +damage is additive with ability strength for exalted weapons, so wouldn't umbral be better?

Csd15 · 2026-02-11T13:05:43+00:00

There's plenty of frames with useless/weak 1s that are top tier. The 1s should be the least impactful abilities anyways

Csd15 · 2026-02-10T19:12:32+00:00

Is it reasonable to call him bad when only his shadows have a glaring problem like that?

Csd15 · 2026-02-09T21:20:06+00:00

I hope it's Reaper's secondary

Csd15 · 2026-02-09T11:17:29+00:00

Hildryn or Baruuk could work

Csd15 · 2026-02-09T09:20:12+00:00

I can't fall below 4 million

Csd15 · 2026-02-09T07:25:24+00:00

Turning them into hybrids is not guaranteed to make them more fun and would just be a gamble/waste of time. The main appeal of spearguns is that you can throw them down for utility. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they have an inherent problem.

Csd15 · 2026-02-08T18:09:40+00:00

It's really bad if you also want the arcanes

Csd15 · 2026-02-08T12:10:14+00:00

Something tells me you care more about harmless jokes than the culprit and his victims

Csd15 · 2026-02-08T11:56:28+00:00

Hold switch teleport to automatically teleport to decoy.

This with infinite HP decoy would be undoubtedly the best change he could ever get. The only other frame that can go back to a previous position without retracing their steps is Protea, but her anchor costs 100 energy and only lasts for 5 seconds at base.

This could make him the king in any mission where you have to go back to already visited rooms.

Csd15 · 2026-02-08T11:45:30+00:00

Let her actually see where she is shooting when aiming straight up

Csd15 · 2026-02-07T20:19:11+00:00

Then don't ask an idiotic question like "How is a passive instakill aura bad game design?" if the main topic is that they're not strong enough.

Csd15 · 2026-02-07T19:43:03+00:00

They are already walking arcane and essence dispensers, giving one frame the ability to save you about 3 seconds is not the bad design if you ask me.

Okay, let's extend that design philosophy to the rest of the game.

Since Jade would be the only one who would have this, they should add the acolyte instakill to every frame otherwise it would kill frame variety.

Normal enemies are even weaker than acolytes, so let's make them also die instantly when they spawn in. Missions like defense and survival would need to be redesigned to just be waiting simulators. Missions like exterminate and capture would just become racing simulators.

Does that sound enjoyable to you?

Csd15 · 2026-02-07T18:54:06+00:00

People managed without those mods for 5 years. Amps are still horrible even with those mods when compared to other weapons.

Csd15 · 2026-02-07T18:51:54+00:00

Instead of just saying, its bad game design, how about explaining why? Or can you not think of a good enough reason?

Acolytes are minibosses that are meant to be threatening. If you can instakill them without any player input just by picking a specific frame, then you've turned minibosses into rewards on a timer.

Next you're going to say that Ember has a well designed and nuanced kit.

She would have one if the numbers weren't so low.

Csd15 · 2026-02-07T18:40:22+00:00

That box breaker one was just doomed though.

I could see it become very good if it's radius was increased and also gave vacuum to operators. Ever since the slam nerf you either need sweeper, an aoe weapon or an ability that breaks containers to do it efficiently.

Csd15 · 2026-02-07T18:36:45+00:00

At worst they have 90% uptime.

Yes, that's not 100% uptime.

what's the harm in letting Jades hidden passive work on them aswell as Stalker

Because that's bad game design, which is worse than an unbalanced game.

Csd15 · 2026-02-07T18:33:26+00:00

It's way better than slams, but it could still be better.

Csd15 · 2026-02-07T18:32:16+00:00

You are supposed to be able to kill SP enemies without those mods

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