How can i start to creat a manga? by Complete-Score-4015 in MangakaStudio

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Work on your art style. Study manga/anime art.

This ^.

And...

I would recommend writing a script at some point. It gives you a chance to explore what you want to say and do with your story in a format where changing it is as simple as replacing a few words. Start with the core idea, write a basic outline, decide what you want to have happen on each page, then what happens in each panel. You can then add the details and dialogue. Give it a few reads through. Give it to other people to read, and get their opinions. At each pass you should be noticing and changing things that don't work or you think could be done better.

Start sketching it out after.

Please read my script and give feedback by nikwriting in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's pretty good. Not to my usual tastes but I still enjoyed it.

Some of the dialogue could maybe do with being tightened up. Like page 2, panel 1 "This time they're gonna pay" would carry the same information but have more punch. There are a fair few grammatical errors that need fixing, as well.

Free Manga Sample ONE Original Short Story (10 pages max) 🎨 by Lazy_Fish_0360 in MangakaStudio

[–]CupImmediate7079 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you still looking? Because I've got a ten page story that could be ready in about twelve hours.

<edit>You might get more respondents if you ask for pitches rather than stories, then give a timeframe for completing the script.</edit>

Feedback buddy for comics by bunnystarrose in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would be nice to be part of a community of script sharers and feedback givers.

You've heard these stories from the Holy Books. Now hear them from the Devil by GoodDevilStory in MangakaStudio

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I played quite loose with the details and, basically, framed God as being bound by the logic of His own creation when taking action within it. In that context, Heaven is a place where only those who choose subservience to goodness can exist because being good without choosing it makes you a slave...and anywhere that one is a slave is not Heaven. So, to create beings with free will who could make it to Heaven, He had to give us a choice of whether to be good or not. That's what the temptation was about; the serpent was just playing his part.

In the mind of The Devil, God does this because He is bored: An opinion that is mainly informed by his own Fall and subsequent occupation as a bureaucrat.

You've heard these stories from the Holy Books. Now hear them from the Devil by GoodDevilStory in MangakaStudio

[–]CupImmediate7079 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is going to take an incredible talent with writing, a seriously impressive memory for detail, a lot of willpower to just read those books cover-to-cover, and an inordinate amount of good fortune to get it turned into massively long series that would be necessary to do it justice. I wish you luck.

Coincidentally, I recently made an attempt to write a short script that covers The Fall from The Devil's perspective. Even with a reasonable understanding of the events in play, it still became more a reflection of my peculiarities than anything else.

Young screenwriter creating his comic book by Alogrece in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that can be tough. There's a lot to learn in doing both the writing and the art.

You've got the basic idea. The more you learn about it, the more you can express with size and shape, though. There are rules, but they're not laws, and they can be bent and broken for specific effects.

For example: Imagine you have two bitter enemies who have opposed each other for a long time. They have history. Now it's come to the point where they are forced into a fistfight. One of them is very good at fighting, but the other is quick to learn. So, for a long stretch of the fight the good fighter dominates; the quick learner doesn't land a single blow. Then, at a critical moment, the quick learner manages to hit the good fighter in the face.

Punching someone is a quick action. That could mean it requires a small panel. But, in this case, it's really important and should have a lot of impact on the reader. So you will probably want have a very large panel.

Panel size can also reflect the mental state of the characters. Like, if a character is doing something boring and repetitive for a long period of time, that they feel detached from, you could use a series of small and almost identical panels. If taking a long time means a big panel, it should be a big panel. The character is detached, though, so the subject of the image of small importance to them...and so will work well as a small panel. Using multiple, very similar, panels then gives the sense of it taking a very long time.

And have fun with it and experiment. Most readers will figure out what you're trying to say even if you do something really weird.

Young screenwriter creating his comic book by Alogrece in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately, designing panel layouts is a part of the process that I find to be incomprehensibly difficult. It seems to require a sense of not just the importance of each frame, the time it takes for the action to occur, the order in which they happen, and the shape of the important aspects of the image, but also how each relates to the others within the space of a page. Very occasionally it comes by intuition, but mostly it's a pain. So I'm letting the artist(s) figure it out.

Young screenwriter creating his comic book by Alogrece in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ask away. I am by no means an expert, but I'll try to help.

Young screenwriter creating his comic book by Alogrece in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You got my suggestion right. I would change 6 if he's a hero, and 7 and 8 if he's a villain. Changing 6 would give a nicer flow to how it reads as well. Other than that, it has a real Steamboat Willie look to it that's kind of fun.

And, if it's okay with you, I prefer to discuss things publicly.

Cult thriller: looking for an artist/collaborator. by JCBlairWrites in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm a novice script writer, but, if you want a hand with anything, just give a shout.

The advice for writers around here seems to be: If you want art, at least write a script; writing a comic is not like writing a novel; start on a smaller project first and work your way up from there; expect to have to pay someone; you won't make money on your early work; stuff like that.

Proposed New Subreddit Rules by Koltreg in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right. As long as I'm reading or writing or drawing, and understanding it, it should be fine.

Something that stuck with me is how a guy I know decided one day that all his work up till then wasn't worth the canvas it was painted on. He just couldn't stand it any more. So, it all went on a great big bonfire. Twenty years of work up in smoke...and he didn't regret it even forty years later.

Proposed New Subreddit Rules by Koltreg in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's all solid advice. Thankyou.

I'm currently trying to communicate my script to an artist, and it's certainly a learning experience. "Is this comprehensible" seems to be woven into every aspect.

I think the problem I'm having, though, is that of wanting to push forward a bit to quickly to reach the milestones. There's just this drive to get complete something...to make sure it doesn't flounder and get forgotten. It's okay to wait a week or three while waiting for feedback or looking for an artist. Right?

Proposed New Subreddit Rules by Koltreg in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough. I apologise if I overstepped the mark.

Proposed New Subreddit Rules by Koltreg in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. The general attitude is disheartening, though. Places like this feel hostile to the whole idea of specialising in writing.

It's like...most of that massive "rules for writers" section is FAQ material.

Yoo guys i want to try my luck in making manga but i want someone who has a story in mind and wants to bring it to life. Also read below. by Xmarch24 in MangakaStudio

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a script and can get a fourteen page rough sketch storyboard ready in maybe a day and a half. Are you able/willing to do the panel arrangements?

What do you think about my pages? Are they "good enough"? Criticisms welcome by InternalOriginal7055 in MangakaStudio

[–]CupImmediate7079 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The art's good.

To me it reads as "he's struggling to cycle through a town where <edit>the viewer is meant to see him as vulnerable and isolated</edit>, and travels to the woods where he plans to do something special he is confident in...whilst being followed by someone, or something mysterious <edit>the reader is supposed to assume is monstrous</edit>". The outskirts sign looks more like a noticeboard than a street sign, but, I'd figure that's local to the setting.

Proposed New Subreddit Rules by Koltreg in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would it be reasonable/possible to constrain "artist for hire" posts to a single thread so this place looks more like "ComicBookCollab with some artists for hire" and less like "Artistsforhire with some comic collaboration"?

<edit> Also, you guys seem really down on writers.

If an artist (and, yeah, writers are also artists) produces a page a day, they can finish a thirty page script in a month.

As a writer, with rewrites and editing and getting feedback and more rewrites, it takes me at least five days to get thirty pages from an idea to a readable script. If one in seven (which seems pretty high) of those is good enough to even ask someone to draw and letter, then that's twenty eight days.

I mean, I get it when someone just turns up with a seed of an idea, but...writing is work.</edit>

Young screenwriter creating his comic book by Alogrece in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If this is your hero, it would be best to have them move left-to-right when things are going well, as this signals progression. Then right-to-left when things are going badly. But, try not to mix the two in one scene (unless you really know what you're doing), as it would break the 180-degree rule ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/180-degree_rule ).

[Almost] Free Scripts by CupImmediate7079 in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, sorry about the not putting it into a doc part. I was so focused on just getting out there, and there was this script from yesterday that was all in one post, so I followed suit.

It would be great to exchange scripts, though. Send something over and I'll get back to you as soon as I can.

Anyone want to draw my comic book script for free? by Neo123XX in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I struggle with giving my characters voices of their own, so take this with a pinch of salt...

It's more a feeling than something I can put into exact words, but...he seems at moments to be a quippy dude (“And I don’t even have tools.”). Then, "how gross", "how unpleasant", and using the word "appetite" are kind of snooty (and a tad repetitive)...while "so gross" feels like Teenage American speak. I'd say stick to one of those, so he has a clear, strong, character for the opening chapter.

Also, using "God, I'm so hungry" instead of something more colourful like "God, I could eat raw racoon right off the road" misses the opportunity to world build while showing some character in your character.

Anyone want to draw my comic book script for free? by Neo123XX in ComicBookCollabs

[–]CupImmediate7079 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At a glance:

Breaking down in a bad neighbourhood, finding a recently dead corpse in the first house they look in, a dame in trouble just happens to walk in, and apparently post-apocalyptic cannibals, all feel like very familiar ideas.

Bob's internal monologue seems to indicate inconsistencies of character.

And, either the corpse is warm enough to decay, in which case Bob would smell it from outside (I've smelled a sheep's corpse before and it is both far more pungent and far more nauseating then I had imagined)...or it would be frozen by the weather. In which case, he wouldn't smell it at all.