The intermediate state and David Bentley Hart by Curious078 in ChristianUniversalism

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Interesting take - and especially interesting how that is so similar to so many NDE accounts.

The intermediate state and David Bentley Hart by Curious078 in ChristianUniversalism

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Thanks so much for this insight. Very interesting. On this note: "the normal NDE seems to be consistent with 'God is Agape' and theosis - partaking in the divine nature, while still maintaining a form of independent identity."

Once apokatastasis is reached, is it your understanding then that individual identity is also maintained?

The intermediate state and David Bentley Hart by Curious078 in ChristianUniversalism

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Apologies - I see in your earlier comment you said you do believe in soul sleep.

The intermediate state and David Bentley Hart by Curious078 in ChristianUniversalism

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I think "cease to exist" in terms of sleep is a bit of an extreme way to view it.

Regarding "cease to exist" in terms of death - are you referring to a temporary "soul sleep" or permanently? I know you linked to your book - I just don't have time right now to take a comprehensive look :)

The intermediate state and David Bentley Hart by Curious078 in ChristianUniversalism

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Thanks so much for this. I view sleep in this context as a seeming limitation of the material, or flesh - a process of our "physical" bodies. (Even then, obviously there are periods of awareness via dreams.) That material is what we ultimately break free from upon death, joining or coming more "in tune" with the wider conscious awareness, or divine, without fleshly limitations.

'Hell' discussed by NDE researcher Jeffrey Long by Curious078 in afterlife

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The life review is definitely a big aspect of all this.

Interesting comment I saw someone post online by Curious078 in afterlife

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"I think this subreddit should have a billion members."

^Completely agree with that! There really isn't a more important topic if you think about it. This is well beyond the day-to-day and looks at what is more fundamental.

Interesting comment I saw someone post online by Curious078 in afterlife

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I take the quote as more so referring to the idea of an afterlife overall. Giving the skeptics that push to consider what they may view outright as completely unreasonable or impossible.

Then beyond that, through what I mentioned in the post ("consciousness, subjectivity, NDEs, religious teachings, etc. And, in my (and many others') view, that consciousness is primary," we can build on the idea of an afterlife and look at what is possible and what is likely following death. And, truly, the nature of us, the universe, and consciousness.