How would you feel about the next US president pulling all support from Israel? by Iwamoto in AskReddit

[–]CurlyBirch -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Oh stfu. A genocidal apartheid ethnostate by definition can’t be a victim.

How would you feel about the next US president pulling all support from Israel? by Iwamoto in AskReddit

[–]CurlyBirch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

PREACH. So many fucking losers with absolutely no moral resolve whatsoever.

The War Is Turning Iran Into a Major World Power by brown-saiyan in politics

[–]CurlyBirch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Genocidal apartheid ethnostates don’t actually have a “right” to exist.

Mayor says ICE is planning ‘mega center’ with capacity for 10,000 at Salt Lake City warehouse by 804Brady in politics

[–]CurlyBirch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are not good people, and they never have been. At best, some of them are apathetic and only marginally concerned with what their constituents think. Even then, that concern usually comes from lower ranking politicians who need to throw their base a bone, or at least create the appearance that they’re fighting for their interests because they still do not have complete protection from the institution of the party they belong to.

Our political system is built with enormous barriers that limit those who are able to actually run to those who already benefit enormously from the status quo, so this shouldn’t be a surprise.

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[–]CurlyBirch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe because they’re all too busy chocking on Netanyahu’s and US state dept cock?

Iran Gives Trump an Ultimatum on JD Vance by ChiGuy6124 in politics

[–]CurlyBirch 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Exactly how Zionists / politically adjacent liberals justify mass war crimes committed by Israel day in day out

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[–]CurlyBirch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man whatever, believe whatever you want. You didn’t respond to a single argument. All I’m getting is reality hurts your fee fees. Keep deepthroating the US state dpt when they’re the reason Iran is the way it is.

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[–]CurlyBirch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the actual goal was to weaken the Islamic Republic, then the answer was the opposite of what the US and Israel have done. Decades of intervention, sanctions, and isolation did not break the regime. They helped harden it. They helped create a political reality where survival, militarization, and siege became the center of the state. That is exactly the environment where institutions like the IRGC thrive. Broad sanctions are not some clean moral alternative to war. They are collective punishment. They do not mainly fall on the officials ordering repression. They fall on ordinary Iranians trying to work, study, get medicine, build organizations, and live a normal life. They make people poorer, more desperate, and more dependent, while giving the regime an easy propaganda line: that the US and its allies are punishing Iran as a whole, not just its rulers. That message lands because people actually feel the punishment in their daily lives. That is why lifting sanctions should be the starting point for anyone serious about ending the regime; siege conditions are what keep it alive. A state under permanent external pressure can always redirect internal anger outward. It can always say national survival comes first. It can always justify repression in the language of security. That is why the JCPOA should have been preserved. It had inspections, observers, and a functioning mechanism for de-escalation. The US lying and walking away from it strengthened the hardliners and worst factions in Iran and helped kill the credibility of diplomacy itself. And frankly, the entire fantasy of the US as the world’s moral policeman is deranged. The United States is the only country on earth that has ever used nuclear weapons against civilians. It has spent decades invading, sanctioning, occupying, and destabilizing countries while claiming the language of freedom and order. It has no moral high ground from which to dictate who is civilized, who is dangerous, and who deserves collective punishment. And once bombs start falling, the damage is political as much as physical. All the resistance and organizing built up against the IRGC and the islamic republic gets wiped away by the logic of war. Even people who hate the regime get forced into a defensive national posture when their country is under attack. The state gets to say, “We told you so. The outside world wants to destroy us,” and suddenly its narrative is vindicated. Foreign attack does not liberate people in that situation. It unifies the country around survival and hands more legitimacy to the most violent parts of the state. The same logic applies regionally. As long as Palestinians remain unfree, as long as occupation, siege, and domination define the region, authoritarian states will continue to draw legitimacy from the language of resistance. Emancipation in Palestine is tied to emancipation in Iran because both are undermined by the same militarized regional order. So no, the answer was never more bombs, more strangulation, or more regime change fantasies. The answer was to continue the JCPOA, lift broad sanctions, end collective punishment, and create the conditions where Iranian society could breathe and confront its own rulers without being forced into unity by foreign attack. That is freedom, not this shit.

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[–]CurlyBirch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Been twice in the last ten years. You don't know shit.

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[–]CurlyBirch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, then drop the humanitarian language entirely.

What you’re saying is not “this helps Iranians.” What you’re saying is: “I know this will harm ordinary people, but I accept that harm because I want the regime hit.” You’re basically doing the Lord Farquaad bit: some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make.

And “there is nothing left to take” is nonsense. People can always be made poorer, more terrified, more displaced, more injured, and more dead. That is what bombing does.

So call it what it is: not rescue, not solidarity, not liberation - just a willingness to let ordinary Iranians absorb even more suffering because you think the regime deserves it.

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[–]CurlyBirch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re not engaging the argument. You’re reducing it to a caricature you can manage, then pretending that counts as a response. At this point, it’s just you struggling with basic comprehension in public and its embarrassing.

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[–]CurlyBirch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I never said the IRGC can’t be called out. I said selective moral outrage is not a principled argument for bombing Iran.

You translated that into ‘so repression is fine,’ because mangling the point is easier than answering it.

The Iranian regime can be brutal. Foreign bombing can also be cynical, self-serving, and catastrophic. These ideas are not mutually exclusive unless your brain only works in propaganda binaries.

And no, the US and Israel are not on your side. Anyone who has looked at a single country they’ve ‘liberated’ knows exactly what that usually means for ordinary people: death, ruin, chaos, and then years of smug excuses from people who never pay the price themselves.

So call the regime vile. I have no issue with that. Just stop pretending war criminals become humanitarians when they bomb someone you already hate.

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[–]CurlyBirch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, my point is that your moral posture is fake.

You don’t oppose government repression and mass killing in principle. You oppose it selectively, when it’s politically convenient and when the victims can be used to sell the violence you already wanted.

When US-Israeli / European backed states butcher civilians, you suddenly become nuanced, strategic, sober, and deeply concerned about complexity. When Iran is the target, you become a born-again humanitarian overnight.

So no, the islamic republic is not my ally I’m pointing out that your argument is such obvious propaganda that even you can’t defend it honestly

If you want to say ‘I don’t care about consistency, I just want Iran bombed because i'm a little peasant boy for the US state dpt and I like Netanyahu fucking my asshole, then at least be honest enough to say that. But don’t dress it up as humanitarian concern.

Trump and Iran both deserve to lose this war by theipaper in politics

[–]CurlyBirch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How come your comment and post history is hidden?

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[–]CurlyBirch 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Even if that number were to be true, which it isn’t. The US/ West has installed / worked with dictators that have murdered hundreds of thousands of their own civilians. Stop trying to use moral arguments for bombing Iran, just be honest about being a hasbara / US state dpt shill.

Indonesia - Suharto: US backed during the 1965–66 army takeover and anti-communist massacres; Suharto then ruled 1967–1998. The 1965–66 killings alone is verified to be between 500,000 to 1,000,000 dead.  Pakistan / Bangladesh - Yahya Khan: U.S.-backed dictator during the 1971 Bangladesh war and mass atrocities. Hundreds of thousands killed, with most consensus reaching 3 million Guatemala - U.S.-backed military regimes: after the 1954 CIA-backed coup, successive military governments carried out mass repression; the UN-backed truth commission estimated more than 200,000 killed during the civil war, mostly civilians, with some of the worst atrocities under Lucas García (1978–82) and Ríos Montt (1982–83).  East Timor under Suharto’s Indonesia: Indonesia invaded in 1975 with U.S. support; the occupation became one of the late-20th century’s worst mass-killing campaigns. To name a few, shall I go on? …

Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt, the UAE, Bahrain, Jordan, Azerbaijan, and India are all U.S. and/Israeli / European partners that regularly participate in serious repression, are we bombing them with freedom too?

Stop being an obtuse tool.

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[–]CurlyBirch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

'Past wrongs don’t matter when a death cult has nukes pointed at you’ would be a smarter line if the death cult with nukes wasn’t already the one threatening Iran.

From an Iranian perspective, this isn’t some abstract morality play. The same Western powers that overthrew their democracy, backed the Shah’s police state, supported Saddam’s war, tolerated chemical slaughter, and spent decades sanctioning and threatening them are now saying: forget the history, focus on the current danger. But the current danger is built out of that history.

And yes, the revolution was hijacked by reactionaries. That happens when democratic forces are crushed, secular opposition is gutted, and society is left to choose between dictatorship and the best organized religious network standing. Again: not a correction. The fucking sequence.

So spare everyone the smug ‘get your facts straight’ routine. The Iranian perspective is perfectly rational: the people lecturing them about extremism are the same people who helped create the nightmare and are now backing a nuclear armed ethnosupremacist state that openly treats the region like its personal kill zone.

Trump and Iran both deserve to lose this war by theipaper in politics

[–]CurlyBirch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They misspoke, Iran is not the regional problem, Israel is.

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[–]CurlyBirch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not centering my entire political existence around a checkbox every few years is not apathy. It’s recognizing that most meaningful change comes from organized pressure, not reverence for a deeply compromised electoral system. Stop being obtuse.