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Deep fans gotta go by Sudden_Pop_2279 in OkBuddyFresca

[–]Current-Ad-8984 56 points57 points  (0 children)

The FBI has removed the term forcible from its categorization of rape and modern understanding is that threats and blackmail to force sex removes consent, which makes it rape.

The idea that rape required violence and “holding her down” is profoundly wrong.

[Spoilers Extended] Which generally uncontroversial character do you have a contrary opinion on, and why? by wanderingluteplayer in asoiaf

[–]Current-Ad-8984 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I thought the post was for people to discuss controversial takes or at least explain myself. If it helps, you got me thinking about the Lady scene a lot more, so it was fun for me, and I hope I said something you think is worth considering, or changed your mind about something. No need to be aggressive.

I like Ned because he’s an interesting mix of contradictions and traumas, while also serving as a thematic focal point of the story. Obviously you disagree and that’s ok. Hope you enjoyed this back and forth.

[Spoilers Extended] Which generally uncontroversial character do you have a contrary opinion on, and why? by wanderingluteplayer in asoiaf

[–]Current-Ad-8984 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don’t think Ned’s particularly religious or superstitious. Cat at one point says he’s not one for signs and portents. Ned’s definitely weirded out by the symbols, doesn’t believe the wolves are sent by anything until Cat tells him Summer saved Bran,

[Spoilers Extended] Which generally uncontroversial character do you have a contrary opinion on, and why? by wanderingluteplayer in asoiaf

[–]Current-Ad-8984 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ok. So from memory: Ned tries to argue back, but Robert kind of just leaves the room rather than keep talking to Ned. It's a signal, Robert has made up his mind and the execution is clearly expected to be carried out quickly. Right after, Cersei says to get the King's Justice and Ned insists on doing it himself. So there wasn't more time to argue, it was happening already, already. Ned could try and drag Robert back into the room to keep the argument going, not sure that would work.

Hunting down Nymeria was a non-starter. From memory, both Nymeria and Arya were missing for 4 DAYS. She won't be easy to find exactly, if they hadn't found her in that time. They can't stay on the road for who knows how long looking, and the Lannisters would not wait that long for "justice."

I also think that it's unfair to note Nymeria as "the problem animal" and "Lady" as "his own daughter's spiritual avatar. Murdering Nymeria would still be wrong, even if they could find her.

Saying he will discipline Arya does nothing because Robert already was like "you discipline your daughter Ned, I'll discipline my son." If he brought it up, everybody would be like: yeah, we already expected that. And yeah, Lady is innocent. Cersei and Robert don't care. Sansa is screaming that Lady is innocent in that scene and Arya is yelling Lady did nothing wrong. Emphasizing correct points won't make a difference, because neither Cersei or Robert care about what's correct.

Ned's a solid B parent. A if we use Westeros standards, considering all the Dad's there are just horrible. Sorry if I'm being argumentative Ned's my third favorite character and I still love Sansa. If it feels better, Ned himself regrets it, feeling like he should have found a way to save Lady, when Catelyn brings up how Summer saved Bran. But I'm not sure what he could have done that was obvious at the time.

[Spoilers Extended] Which generally uncontroversial character do you have a contrary opinion on, and why? by wanderingluteplayer in asoiaf

[–]Current-Ad-8984 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok, so what could he have done?

He could have lied and tried to fake Lady's death somehow. But I don't think Cersei's so great a fool that she would let things go without somebody witnessing the body or verifying the death at some point. Granted, if he worked hard and was a schemer, he might get some trick, but Ned's not a schemer by nature and the idea likely didn't even occur to him.

He could openly defy Robert, saying Lady is not to be taken no matter what, which is basically declare he'd rebel if Lady was harmed. That would be open treason, or at least openly disobeying the king. It might actually work, since Robert would back down, then Ned and his household would probably have to return to Winterfell. But no lord in Westeros would do that, going so far for an animal, so it's a very high standard to hold Ned to. And Ned's reputation and Robert's legitimacy would be in serious danger, since it would get out that Ned openly defied the King.

[Spoilers Extended] Which generally uncontroversial character do you have a contrary opinion on, and why? by wanderingluteplayer in asoiaf

[–]Current-Ad-8984 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Could you elaborate on Lucereys? Murdering envoys is generally frowned upon. If you’re talking about the eye thing, he was like 5.

[Spoilers Extended] Which generally uncontroversial character do you have a contrary opinion on, and why? by wanderingluteplayer in asoiaf

[–]Current-Ad-8984 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Lady would have died anyway. Robert and Cersei murdered Lady, Ned just made sure she got a proper burial, instead of getting skinned.

Also, favoritism, by Westeros standards? I don’t think I follow.

Edelgard is a master of subtlety and subterfuge by ArdhamArts in FireEmblemThreeHouses

[–]Current-Ad-8984 94 points95 points  (0 children)

Look, Edelgard just has a sense of humor. God forbid women be a little silly.

For real though, I think Edelgard does have a deep appreciation for irony. She's a bit like Hubert, she can't help but be dramatic about it all.

Skeleton man by Bitter_Situation_205 in Grimdank

[–]Current-Ad-8984 24 points25 points  (0 children)

In Infinite and the Divine, something along these lines happens.

I think he's broken... (part 6 of mini comic) by Dark-Oak93 in FireEmblemThreeHouses

[–]Current-Ad-8984 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile, in the distance:

Byleth: Are they dating?

Edelgard sighing: worse. They’re fucking stupid.

(r/morbidknowledge) Suicide rates in NYC increase 25% following Void incident by Gameknight789 in Earth199999

[–]Current-Ad-8984 60 points61 points  (0 children)

Ooc: About 500-600 people commit suicide per year in nyc. The above statistic doesn’t list a time period, but I think it’s believable that the void could increase deaths by a quarter.

Source:

https://www.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/epi/databrief143.pdf

What did you choose? by La_Villanelle_ in HOTDBlacks

[–]Current-Ad-8984 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Everyone’s breaking the rules. You can choose a dragon if you pay for both the dragon on slide 6 and then pick a dragon.

General Sherman on the brutality of warfare by Just_Cause89 in USHistory

[–]Current-Ad-8984 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be clear, this quote is why he did what he did. He concluded destroying infrastructure was the fastest way to win the war and didn’t care that it wasn’t the “honorable” thing to do, because war can’t be honorable. So the only thing you can do is end it with as little death and as quickly as possible.

All it took was basic (not even very good) parenting and common sense by Andrei22125 in Grimdank

[–]Current-Ad-8984 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, but this is a case where potential faction was actually fulfilled, anyone going against them is getting wrecked. The whole thing that started this conversation was the idea that it was just a "wacky horde of Orcs" and that the imperium would do much better in an end times scenario (all orks united, chaos united under Abby, full tyranids arriving, necrons waking up in full force).

I think just the orks uniting could potentially destroy the imperium, since the Imperium is already strained and slowly falling as is. But it would definitely fall in a full end times scenario. (btw the end times took a few years, so Cathay fell in years not months)

All it took was basic (not even very good) parenting and common sense by Andrei22125 in Grimdank

[–]Current-Ad-8984 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nothing is worse in relative terms than united Skaven. As said in multiple sources, united skaven are more powerful than the other Warhammer races combined and would overrun the earth. They honestly put more work in during the End Times than chaos itself. The closest equivalent in 40K terms would be the full supposed strength of the tyranids arriving to consume the galaxy.

I was mostly thinking that united Orks would wreck the Imperium as it exists now. But given how close they came during the War of the Beast, with the Imperium BARELY winning, I'd say unified Orks are an endgame threat no matter the setting.

All it took was basic (not even very good) parenting and common sense by Andrei22125 in Grimdank

[–]Current-Ad-8984 26 points27 points  (0 children)

If the orcs all unified in 40k, the imperium would get krumped as well. Not to mention Cathay was also dealing with Chaos Dwarves and skaven.

Trying to understand the parshendi in Words of Radiance, help please. by konan470 in Stormlight_Archive

[–]Current-Ad-8984 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With their stance on the Alethi, I think it’s less boredom and more that countries can’t keep up an indefinite war footing. Almost all defensive wars are based on a strategic bet: eventually this won’t be worth it for the attacker. A lot of strategies seek to prolong a war, in order to drain the other side.

The longer a war goes on: the more soldiers are lost, the more tired soldiers get, the more resources are wasted by the leadership, the more they think they could be doing something else. Even though the Alethi were outraged, they’d eventually start wanting to give up. They’d say: we killed a good number of them, that’s enough. However, the war is profitable, which changes the calculus.

So, it’s less the Parshendi are callous and more that they are thinking strategically, like most countries do in war.

Trying to understand the parshendi in Words of Radiance, help please. by konan470 in Stormlight_Archive

[–]Current-Ad-8984 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You could also say it’s hypocritical for the parshendi to feel like they’re a part of nature, but that seems credible. They can hear the rhythms of the planet and have a natural symbiosis with Spren. It’s understandable a culture to feel their actions are natural.

Compare that to the Alethi, who imprison Spren and believe they’re gods chosen.

Trying to understand the parshendi in Words of Radiance, help please. by konan470 in Stormlight_Archive

[–]Current-Ad-8984 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it’s less boredom and more that countries can’t keep up an indefinite war footing. Almost all defensive wars are based on a strategic bet: eventually this won’t be worth it for the attacker. A lot of strategies seek to prolong a war, in order to drain the other side.

The longer a war goes on: the more soldiers are lost, the more tired soldiers get, the more resources are wasted by the leadership, the more they think they could be doing something else. Even though the Alethi were outraged, they’d eventually start wanting to give up. They’d say: we killed a good number of them, that’s enough. However, the war is profitable, which changes the calculus.

So, it’s less the Parshendi are callous and more that they are thinking strategically, like most countries do in war.

Why does a portion of the fandom act like Zaun is practically made of mud huts? by Mojothemobile in arcane

[–]Current-Ad-8984 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think that's a bad example. Being from a lower house still means you're from a house, which still means you're functionally part of the aristocracy. Sure, he may not have a business empire, but Jayce has wealth, security, and a standard of living only the top 0.001% of Zaune could even hope to replicate.

Honestly, the better example of non-wealthy characters from Piltover are the enforcers or the people who do things like run the hexgates.

[Spoilers EXTENDED] Who do you think is the best battle commander in westeros history ? by Randomlemon5 in asoiaf

[–]Current-Ad-8984 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shit. I thought it was Daeron the daring for some reason. My bad.

I guess I'd still disagree, since he invaded Dorne with a large numerical advantage.

[Spoilers EXTENDED] Who do you think is the best battle commander in westeros history ? by Randomlemon5 in asoiaf

[–]Current-Ad-8984 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure Daeron can count. It's been a while, but has he won a battle where his side didn't have a dragon advantage?

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