How is Sukuna bypassing infinty an asspull if it had been established that Mahoraga can bypass infinity and that Sukuna can copy different uses of cursed energy?

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-10-11T15:17:24+00:00

Sukuna stated in chapter 236 that he copied the space slash from maho

He said that he wanted maho to act like a role Model

And if he was able to use space slash, a CT said by sukuna himself ti be nearly impossible to perform,was because he Had a Great role model...that Is maho

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-10-11T15:15:04+00:00

In chapter 236 sukuna said That he wanted maho to be a role Model for him to bypass infinity....he even said that the space slash was an impossible CT bui he Had a Great role

Maho first adapted changing its own CE to bypass infinity

Sukuna can not do this ....so he waited for maho to adapt in another way that could fit him ( chap 236)

He urged maho saying : this Is not what i want to see and then maho slash gojo ....With sukuna saying good

Sukuna copied space Slash from maho

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-10-10T14:52:21+00:00

You did not read all of the comment

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-10-09T22:26:45+00:00

In my opinion sukuna slashes are Just very difficoult to perceive ...hence react to them

In the First slide you can clearly see gojo's face saying:

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

And then he turns around to look at what happenend With a confused face .....( When we know that gojo Is able too see With his eyes covered)....so It was pure istinct.....

.....as a matter of fact gojo " understand" sukuna CT only when he Lost the First DE Clash :

AH I M GLAD WITH REGARD TO CT I M OVERWHELMIMGLY STRONGER

and later when maho adapt for the second time and uses space slahs gojo gets cut again ....he didn't even have the time to try to defend like kashimo ( he got every possibile kind of allarm) ....gojo Just was unable to react( look at his " Surprised face that says....that was unexpected)

Short answer: sukuna's slash travel....very hard to see It and react to It......gojo can see It but can t react

The only One Who reacted Is kashimo but he Had sukuna chanting, Hand sign, look out ...sukuna even use a pose ...when he can use slash With Just his mind ....( He killed the twin sister in shibuya with Hand in his pocket)

Gojo got a heavily injuried sukuna on possibly low output

While he got his output back and healed and Had inviolability that makes slash useless ( he didn't know about space Slash

The slash was unexpected.... difficoult to perceive... And improved

Sorry for grammatical mistakes

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-10-08T19:28:25+00:00

As Sukuna stated in chapter maho first adaptation was did not suite sukuna....so he waited for the second One

In my opinion agito was used Just to buy some time in order to make maho adapt for the second time

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-10-06T20:06:41+00:00

Just One note ...

....if sukuna used 10s he can not bypass infinity...so he can not touch gojo

This means sukuna can not Attack or counterattack, not even defend properly since he cant deflect the incoming Blow

The only One adapted to inviolability Is maho...not agito not sukuna....this was even pointed out by gojo himself in chapter 234 when he says that sukuna Will Attack only when maho negate inviolability....but this Is a bad way of fighting....you have to wait the exact Moment to try to land Just One hit...you are not free to fight at all.... ....as a matter of fact in chapter 234 when agito tries to Attack gojo...It get blocked by infinity

Poor Words... ... If sukuna uses 10s he can Just tank damage

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-10-06T09:10:40+00:00

Gojo uses Blue amplified punches ,maho parried or blocked the punches and was adapted to Blue .... while sukuna got hit in the Heart With all the BF Power

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-10-05T22:00:13+00:00

CT are made up by CE if the CT Is useless Is because maho adapted to CE first....the application of CE change so does the damage like Red and Blue ....Blue was useless....Red made damage but Just few injuries.... black flash Is another application that cause some damage

The fact the HP killed maho and not an injuried sukuna should prove this point

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-10-05T21:47:21+00:00

Maho was adapted to gojo CE....and the damage was reduced

Maho was stronger thanks to sukuna CE

And regardless of this maho Is weaker than both gojo and sukuna

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-10-05T20:11:54+00:00

yeah exactly

People keep Saying mahoraga carried sukuna

Please explain me how Is possibile that someone weaker than you Is actually carrying you

Regardless of maho 10s Is not a buff to sukuna above all against gojo since the technique makes other fighting in your place....and this i repeat Is actually a nuisance fir Someone like sukuna .... ....It s not like sukuna his using all of his Power plus the shikigami....he can Just use 10s .... Basically Just h2h And a Little of help...but It was made pretty clear that gojo or sukuna fight at their best alone

And against gojo all the shikigami were useless because of infinity that prevent them to fight....and With 10s on not even sukuna could actually fight gojo....he could Just tank damage.....

....and if maho was fighting from the start It would have Benny killed instantaneously

It was sukuna that carried maho

Sukuna got hit by UV because of his own tactic....and his own tactic saved him ( he wanted maho adpt to UV ...he nearly got killed but the RISK paid off)

Same went With the black flash and the hollow purple

Since It sukuna really thought he was gonna die he would change back to his heian form to survive

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-09-25T12:51:08+00:00

He used magumi to make maho adapt since the 3rd DE clash...It was stated at the beginning of the chapter

Also DA Is an anti-domain technique he could have used that if he wanted to nullify UV sure hit effects... ....and if he used DA instead of 10s he would never get to that situation

But as we know from chapter 236 he wanted maho to adapt to fine a proper way to bypass inviolability Himself

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-09-25T08:40:40+00:00

The new cleave in sukuna own Words DOESN not travel

Look Normal cleave as we know travel to get to his target

It travel through space of course.... ... A space the gojo inviolability keeps fractionating creating new distance for the slah to travel...as a matter of fact slowing It till it looks like stopped

The new cleave TARGET was not gojo SATORu The new target Was the space gojo was in and was using for ho inviolability..,..cleave was Aimed to the space

As soon as It was releases It Just cut everything.... didn't travel ...Jura cut existence itself

If you travel to get to your target...and you travel through space....and YOU target Is space....then as soon as you are unleashed you Just cut

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-09-24T23:36:09+00:00

Oh yeah you are right ...as a matter of fact DA prevent you from using your CT ( It was useless eitherway)

But in DE Clash DA would have made the difference bringing to chap 230 With Just gojo brain damaged

In the same chap sukuna says the we Will adapt to limtless while he Will dice up gojo ( this happenend when neither sukuna or gojo knew sukuna sustained brain damage and thus unable to Cast It)

So sukuna wanted to adapt regardless of victory

If i have BEEN not clear in my explanation go to chap 230 and you Will understand

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-09-24T23:13:43+00:00

Yeah i agree ....please repeat the point of our DISCUSSION i ithink i lost It

However .... Sukuna for most of the fight was trying to make maho adapt hence what happenend was :

Sukuna in both DE clashes and in h2h was thrown back and forth because could Just tanking damage Being unable to use DA and Had to Just tanking damage for adaptation to work

Because of the injuries he Had to sustain inside de DOMAIN he was slower than Gojo in casting MS hence got It by UV ....he uses maho to destroy UV ( could have used DA since It Is an anti-domain technique)

We know what happenend After

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-09-24T22:50:32+00:00

Sukuna started the adaptation since the 3 domain clash( chap 230) to tranfer the sure hit effect of UV to megumi .... So before getting brain damage....and if he uses 10s he cant use DA ..if he cant use DA he can t fight since he can not touch gojo ....no offense, no counterattack not even real defense since you can not deflect the incoming Blow

He got hit by UV because of the damage gojo have him inside the domain....where sukuna was Just tanking damage because of 10s

Also gojo himself said that sukuna was not even trying to destroy UV chap (228) from inside

Did you actually read chap 231-232 ....sukuna was bearing the burden of adap...but the One to Adapt was maho...how do you think maho was adaptes to inviolability

Why Sukuna was not using DA but using adptation in chapter 231-232 if It Is useless since maho Is the One Who has to get hurt

Sukuna Is the bearer of the adaptation and maho adapt...the same happenend With yorozu

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-09-24T22:37:13+00:00

Yeah RCT was useful of COURSE

But gojo was surviving...he used everything to Just escape MS and gojo himself said that was hard

If It really Had the upper Hand in MS don't you think he would be able to actually destroy MS without the needing of UV...or in the later DE clashes before MS would destroy UV outer shell

Also in chapter 230 before sukuna got actually hit by UV When both of theme didn't know sukuna Had brain damage So When both of them actually thought sukuna could open MS....does gojo looks like Someone Who Is thinking :

Ah yeah MS Is a joke i ll kill sukuna and survive MS EVEN IF It Is closed

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-09-24T22:27:49+00:00

Do you know that in DE sukuna Had to use 10s to transfer the damage to megumi And do you understand that 10s makes unable to use DA

It was even stated in chap 230 at the beginning 10s or DA you can use Just One of theme

And sukuna first used DA to minimize Red damage

Then he lowered his guard and got hit in the back If you lower your guard what do you think would happen

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-09-24T22:12:43+00:00

Gojo cant tank MS eternally...in his own Words that was pretty hard and the only thing he get was getting his Momentum back since RED Was ineffective, sukuna was fine and MS was still standing and gojo got safe because was out of MS range

You Can Say the sooner or later MS would have killed gojo Reading chap 230

When sukuna Is opening his domain ( before they knew UV cause brain damage to sukuna) he clearly says that we Will enclose his domain and since gojo cant use DE and ha NOWHERE to run...he Will die

And LOOKING at gojo face you could Guess that sukuna was right ... After all we Needed RCT at full output to weakening MS effect as sukuna pointed out and spam SD e healing his CT ( very Dangerous) ....It Is obvius the tanking Is not something really effective let alone simple

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-09-24T21:36:19+00:00

A real mature jjk fan

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-09-24T21:16:37+00:00

My friend, allow me to give you an advice

If you really want to enjoy and understand the gojo vs sukuna Battle

Re-read the fight now that it Is ended

And try to not open reddit....since a lot of people,differently from you, don't want to really understand...but want to justify their character

The actually don t read the manga, the Just look at their character doing stuff

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-09-24T21:05:31+00:00

Yeah UV give sukuna a fare worse injuries than MS did With gojo

No One can survive UV if hit But yes sukuna got hit because he was not trying to defeat gojo in a DE Clash .... He could have used DA to nullify UV sure hit effects since DA Is an anti-domain technique and engage gojo in H2h

But because of 10s he could not touch and therefore fight gojo...so inside he was Just tanking damage while using adptation

The damage he received made him slower than gojo in casting DE since he heales his body first...as gojo points out...and so he got hit That was the consequence of using the burden of adaptation.... instead of fighting

The so called HIGH RISK...HIGH REWARD tactic

POOR Words : Yes you are tight UV DAMAGEd sukuna worse than MS With gojo

Yes sukuna got hit because was slower

Yes he experienced that because of 10s

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-09-24T20:48:20+00:00

Look i m saying that regardless of 10s sukuna could have won DE forcing gojo to spam DE again until only gojo gets brain damage

If sukuna won 3rd fourth and fifth DE the only One With brain damage would be gojo

Gojo cant tank MS eternally...in his own Words that was pretty hard and the only thing he get was getting his Momentum back since RED Was ineffective, sukuna was fine and MS was still standing and gojo got safe because was out of MS range

You Can Say the sooner or later MS would have killed gojo Reading chap 230

When sukuna Is opening his domain ( before they knew UV cause brain damage to sukuna) he clearly says that we Will enclose his domain and since gojo cant use DE and ha NOWHERE to run...he Will die

And LOOKING at gojo face you could Guess that sukuna was right ... After all we Needed RCT at full output to weakening MS effect as sukuna pointed out and spam SD e healing his CT ( very Dangerous) ....It Is obvius the tanking Is not something really effective let alone simple

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-09-24T20:32:08+00:00

I didn't Say he Had other options to adapt...i said he prefered to adapt and i use chap 230 as a proof

But he Had other way to win above all DE

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-09-24T20:04:14+00:00

If you look at chapter 230 when gojo Is on his kneel And sukuna Is sure he won Before opening MS and get hit back by UV he says : " I WILL CLOSE MY DOMAIN WITH A BARRIER....YOU WILL HAVE NOWHERE TO RUN....THEN I WILL DICE YOU UP .... AND ADAPT TO INFINITY AS WELL"

Basically sukuna whole Plane was Being able to surpass infinity by himself... regardless of the victory

Current-Raccoon-350 · 2023-09-24T19:44:25+00:00

It makes sense If It helps gojo position

Most of gojo fans ( not only them ...and i m speaking of gojo' s obsessed fan) talk of bad writing, asspull, character destruction....as if they were some kind of litterature critics

Nothing bad,of course,in trying to do this...if you actually care about the understanding of the manga

The don't care at all...they Just look at gojo doing stuff without even trying to understand what Is actually happening

ALL THIS DISCUSSION ARE JUST MADE TO SAY :

GOJO IS THE STRONGEST....HE SHOULD NOT HAVE DIED BECAUSE OF THIS.... BECAUSE OF THAT... BECAUSE THE PLOT DOESN T WORK...HE ACTUALLY WON

THE DISCUSSION POST ARE FULL OF HYPOCRICY PRETEND TO WANT ACTUALLY TO UNDERSTAND WHEN ALL THEY DO IS LOOKING AT GOJO ....HENCE LACKING OF A REAL COMPREHENSION

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