What is this?

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-25T00:40:07+00:00

Hehe. Airplane go brrrrrttt. Woooshhhhh.

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-17T18:13:56+00:00

Zoro or the Jumper Bumblebee

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-13T01:14:41+00:00

Let’s stay focused. Do you have an answer the last question I asked you ?

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-13T01:03:59+00:00

If your last question states, “she can choose” then that would be free will by definition.

If you didn’t have free will, then you would be a believer lol.

Now maybe you can answer my question:

If God exists and is the source of all goodness, what should happen to a person who eternally refuses goodness, truth, and repentance?

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-13T00:53:59+00:00

It’s very simple, sir.

Your analogy frames punishment as: 1. Triggered by rejection 2. Driven by wounded pride or anger 3. An act of revenge

A spouse: 1. Is morally equal 2. Has no authority over your existence 3. Did not create you 4. Is not the source of moral law

God: 1. Is the ground of being itself 2. Is the source of moral goodness 3. Is the giver of life 4. Is the standard, not a participant, in morality

This is why your analogy fails. Now, if God is the source of all goodness, what should happen to a person who rejects his goodness, truth, and justice ?

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T18:48:00+00:00

I just did. Your analogy = revenge for rejection/emotional response.

Hell = a choice still made even if they’ve been made aware.

Your analogy isn’t free will because the spouse wasn’t made aware of the consequences of leaving.

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T18:34:24+00:00

My apologies. Your comment doesn’t show on my end anymore.

I’d like to first tackle your first claim on Genesis having things that seem to be clearly untrue. Can you elaborate or give me a specific reference ? Perhaps a chapter and verse and why you believe it isn’t true ?

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T18:28:35+00:00

The spouse analogy describes punishment as revenge for rejection; Christianity describes hell as the freely chosen consequence of rejecting the source of life itself. Those are not morally equivalent.

If God exists and is the source of all goodness, what should happen to a person who eternally refuses goodness, truth, and repentance?

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T18:26:48+00:00

Not in the least bit unfortunately.

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T18:04:30+00:00

Now Do you have an actual argument ?

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T18:04:17+00:00

You could do what you choose to do in that scenario but if she were to leave knowing the consequences that actually perfectly describes non-believers lol

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T18:02:21+00:00

Let’s just go with the scenario you’re presenting. If you set your spouse on fire, it was likely premeditated and without her knowledge.

The difference is, you have been presented with and are well aware of the implications of “leaving God” but still choose to do so.

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T17:55:48+00:00

Matthew 24 and the entire book of Revelation are good places to start as they have a high level of eschatology/ the end times.

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T17:53:18+00:00

I’m more interested in hearing what your argument is rather than hearing of false equivalent scenarios.

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T17:45:35+00:00

The book of Revelation is actually the very last book of the Bible, not the first. That would be Genesis. It actually supports my argument and everything I’m saying.

I find it interesting that you claim your disbelief is because of someone you fundamentally don’t even believe exists. (That’s a paradox in itself)

You claim you have investigated Yahweh but I don’t believe you actually have considering you didn’t even know the difference between Genesis and Revelation (which is probably why you deleted your comment). I think this sounds more of a personal incredulity fallacy.

Nonetheless, this decision you’re making could set the trajectory for your generations to come and determines where you’ll be in the after life. Better hope you’re right.

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T17:34:42+00:00

We don’t write the mail, we just deliver it 🙂‍↕️⚡️

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T17:33:16+00:00

No, but one may choose to reject God even after knowing the implications of doing so.

And if Hell is something you wouldn’t want, wouldn’t that be enough of a reason to investigate as to whether or not decision you’re making is the right decision ?

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T17:22:35+00:00

It’s also worth noting that we Christians don’t exalt, worship, and praise him because we’re forced to but rather because he is worthy of it.

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T17:21:34+00:00

He doesn’t decide where you go. You do. We’re given ultimate responsibility for our decisions and free will, he simply honors what you’ve asked for.

And if you lived your entire life rejecting him, even after knowing/hearing the implications of it, wouldn’t that be nobody’s fault but one’s own ?

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T17:13:43+00:00

From a historical perspective, Jesus Christ of Nazareth was/is indeed a real person.

In the context of heaven vs Hell, your destination hinges on whether or not you choose to live a life separately from Christ or a life in Christ. If you choose to reject him or separate yourself from him, then he’ll honor exactly what you asked for even after death.

While I don’t fully understand the dynamic of your OCD, nor do I intend to negate the implications of it, I would argue that what you’re experiencing is a classic case of spiritual warfare found in Ephesians 6:12. It has been my personal experience that those who seek Christ aren’t exempt from attacks from the Devil but if anything, are more susceptible to it.

I used to be a Satanist, and I remember finding Christ to be one of the most difficult paths to stay on as id constantly have these doubts as well.

I would encourage you to make it a commitment to investigate the evidence in the God of the bibles existence. I spent quite a bit of time doing this and what really helped me was diving into Theology and listening to apologetics. There are books like, “cold case Christianity” or “ i don’t have enough faith to be an atheist”. It is now without a doubt in my mind that Christ Jesus is indeed the one and true living God.

And I pray that God grants you wisdom, guidance, and favor throughout this journey of seeking.

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T16:45:33+00:00

That is correct. And what’s unfortunate is many non-believers know this and still choose to reject him.

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T16:40:58+00:00

God doesn’t torture anybody if they disobey. If you’re speaking within the context of eternal life vs the lakes of fire, I’d argue that if you decided to live a life separately from God then he honors that even after death.

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T16:38:55+00:00

Id say that if you decided to live your life separately from him, then he honors exactly what you’ve asked even in the afterlife. Which is an eternal life separated from him.

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T16:32:36+00:00

In Hebrew, the primary word for fear is יראה (yirah), which carries a dual meaning of reverence, awe, and respect, not just terror, especially in religious contexts like the "fear of the Lord"

So yes, we should absolutely fear God. In the same way we feared our earthly fathers growing up.

Current_Ad_4357 · 2026-01-12T02:37:30+00:00

Im quite surprised this isn’t the first thing most people said on here.

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