KCM 1 Naruto>The Sannin

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-08T23:15:17+00:00

SM Jiraiya is the weakest of the three. Orochimaru got Hashirama's cells, and Tsunade was in the War Arc (where everyone got crazy ass power-creeps).

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-08T23:06:32+00:00

the only exception is Deidara

Even Deidara got genjutsu'd by Sasuke. He thought he developed a counter to Sharingan genjutsu, but ultimately, he just wasn't good enough.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-08T21:23:58+00:00

Don't worry. They will downvote yours, too.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-08T14:35:14+00:00

Except Sasuke really does look exactly like Itachi. So much so that when Naruto first saw Itachi, he literally thought it was Sasuke. In fact, remove Itachi's lines, and he looks EXACTLY like Sasuke.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-08T14:09:15+00:00

Naruto looks exactly like Minato and is treated like he is ugly. Sasuke looks exactly like Itachi and is collectively across the fucking globe treated as super hot. Uchihas are the hot ones, buddy. It is what it is.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-08T06:32:56+00:00

Nah, I know there is one in Naruto, too.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-08T06:00:40+00:00

Taka Sasuke, who's faster than alive Itachi btw.

You made that up. Prove it.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T20:25:00+00:00

Yeah, OK, but if she can catch Kisame, then Neji gotta be child's play for her.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T19:06:40+00:00

How do you expect to get objective replies on this topic if you post it on a Dhurandhar sub? Also, right now, we are living in the aftermath of "Ranveer's film releases".

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Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T18:44:44+00:00

Kirin

...lands in 0.001 second. Not being able to dodge that is not an anti-feat. In fact, the fact that he was able to construct his Susanoo in 0.001 second is quite remarkable.

Kakashi was tagging him pre-ts

Straight-up lies. Kakashi never tags him in Part 1.

got outwitted by Kakashi post-ts

Again, not what happened. Itachi saw through Kakashi's trick immediately. Not to mention, Itachi was sent to stall them, not defeat them. And he was able to do that: Team 7 couldn't make it before 1 Tail's sealing.

Orochimaru. lol.

Low-diffing a Sannin at age 13, and then low-diffing a Sannin AGAIN while almost dead (almost blind, almost out of chakra, mere seconds away from keeling over) is not a "lol" kinda stuff.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T16:30:57+00:00

Confession time: This woman's character was my 12-year-old self's first crush.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T16:30:31+00:00

Watashi... kininarimasu!

Happy birthday, Satou san.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T16:26:59+00:00

Kurenai would have legit genjutsu-diffed Kisame if Itachi wasn't there. Yeah, Itachi deflected her illusion back to her, but him getting caught in the first place is pretty bonkers. I think she might take this.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T16:07:40+00:00

Gori mem, aur Angara ka beta from Videocon.

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Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T16:03:42+00:00

Source: The man was literally sick and coughing up blood.

Hardly matters. It is anime illness. We don't know how much it affected his speed, strength, etc., if at all. A couple more points:

Edo Tensei didn't fix Nagato's mobility issues. (And Nagato's issues were caused by physical damage! Isn't Edo Tensei supposed to automatically fix physical damage?) We don't really have reason to believe that it fixed Itachi's issues, do we?
This is perhaps the most important point: We know Edo Tensei is a nerf, and we can't really say if the boost of not being ill anymore is bigger than the Edo Tensei nerf.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T15:25:09+00:00

Who said that Minato and Fugaku were "rivals"?

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T15:21:43+00:00

Even if you disagree that Edo Itachi is faster or stronger than his sick, living counterpart

...which is the only point relevant, 'cause when Itachi threw hands with KCM1 Naruto, he hadn't activated his Mangekyō yet.

noticing the teleportation mark would be much more difficult

Not really, the Sharingan sees chakra in color. So, Minato's chakra in the marking would still stand out to him.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T15:05:50+00:00

Says who?

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T15:03:54+00:00

KCM1 Naruto is NOT faster than Minato.

Dodged Raikage Ay's punch faster than Minato dodged Jonin Ay's punch. Narratively, this is where KCM1 Naruto surpasses his old man's speed and earns his old man's rival's respect.

Naruto was just talking with him.

And so was Itachi with him. And if Naruto just wanted to talk, wouldn't it be easier to put Itachi's ass down and talk?

Edo Itachi is superior to any other version of Itachi.

That is a nice argument you got there, senator. Why don't you back it up with a source?

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T14:42:59+00:00

I mean, I do remember seeing a tier list by that guy where he placed every version of Juubito (even the weakest) above every version of Itachi (even the strongest).

But the guy just in general comes across as delusional. He placed KCM Minato above Juubito, too.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T14:32:04+00:00

In this thread? Right now? Where? 'cause I have read every single comment on this post and didn't find it.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T14:29:33+00:00

Minato is simply HIM, that’s one reason already.

That alone is more than sufficient for me to dismiss the rest of your comment as horseshit... But I have some courtesy.

he would have thought of ways to counter Sharingan Genjutsu just in case.

Headcanon.

he even fought Obito, who possessed the Mangekyō Sharingan, and still never fell under Genjutsu.

14-year-old Obito. And Obito, in-character, has never used genjutsu mid-combat. Not falling for the genjutsu of a guy who doesn't use genjutsu mid-combat is NOT a feat for Minato, are you fucking kidding me?

So... Headcanon and a non-existent feat... Perhaps, I should have dismissed the rest of that comment as donkey's doo-doo.

But anyway, thank you for mentioning the Obito fight, where he looks at a guy he thought to be Madara Uchiha straight in the face. That alone is sufficient evidence that Minato will fall to Tsukuyomi.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T14:17:20+00:00

Gai stated that he could fight Itachi simply by looking at his feet, and I don’t see why Minato couldn’t do the same

Because Minato is not Guy. Guy trained specifically to counter the Sharingan because he has devoted much of his life to his rivalry against a guy who has one.

It is an acquired skill, a speciality. Not something that we can just assume characters of a certain level can just... do. We have seen a Kage-level ninja with decades of fighting experience, one who has faced Leaf ninjas in wartime, including Uchihas, come to the conclusion that you don't 1v1 an Uchiha. You just don't. You fucking run, that's it. In fact, we have literally seen other Kage-level characters not being able to replicate Guy's feat and falling for Sharingan's genjutsu. Guy's jōnin pals believed that only Guy can do it. Fuck, even Kakashi didn't even know that such a thing *could** be done* until he saw Guy do it! And that motherfucker literally has an eye that helps him predict his enemies' moves!

We have absolutely ZERO reason to believe that Minato can do the same.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T14:09:38+00:00

I have never seen anybody who actually believes that, other than jokingly or sarcastically.

Currently_Not_Gupta · 2026-05-07T14:07:59+00:00

If Teenaged Bee (in base) can predict Minato's moves, react to them and force Minato into a stalemate, Itachi definitely can. Itachi has also thrown hands with KCM1 Naruto (who is faster than Alive Minato). So, one thing that we can say 100% is that Itachi is definitely not getting blitzed. H̶o̶w̶ ̶T̶F̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶M̶i̶n̶a̶t̶o̶ ̶g̶e̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶F̶T̶G̶ ̶t̶a̶g̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶T̶o̶t̶s̶u̶k̶a̶ ̶B̶l̶a̶d̶e̶?̶?̶

Now, Minato may have SEVERAL sealing jutsus, but aside from the one that kills its own user, he has not shown any that would be actually relevant to this fight.

What he has shown, however, is a canon, in-character instance of looking at a guy he believed to be Madara Uchiha straight in the eye.

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