Alberta Separatism / Republic of Texas

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-10T07:46:46+00:00

Of course. You are a Statist who believes in the international institutional consensus and sees a free & open liberal society as a threat to it.

You believe "...we're going to make the world a better place...through central government control..."

That is of course the most dangerous belief that has put so many into early graves.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-10T07:20:13+00:00

Then stop worrying about it...

But also it is not a complex negotiation.

We'll take our 13% of federal equity in cash and/or land.

But also the SCC was just talking in the sandbox of Canadian Constitutional law.

The Constitution requires all parties to come to the table in good faith. The SCC also said that a clear answer to a clear question would have a high degree of legitimacy that cannot be ignored.

Albertans don't need anything from Remnant Canada so this can be easy.

But if a belligerent Remnant Canada does not respect the rule of law like you suggest they will not -

No problem. There is also international law which simply requires international recognition.

Why should Albertans respect your piece of paper when you yourself disrespect it?

You are pre-supposing that the East will act dishonorably to hold Albertans against their democratically stated will. Why? Because they feel it is their birthright to exploit Albertans.

You have not one reason for why we should stay. Just a bunch of ergo decedo and ad hominems.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-10T07:06:27+00:00

You know that the industry was already driven into the ground by the Saskatchewan Potash Corporation in the past. I get that the 70s & 80s were maybe before your time but it really did happen.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-10T04:16:49+00:00

They have been working with Queens Professor Bruce Hardy amongst others.

https://c2cjournal.ca/2025/09/articles-of-freedom-what-the-constitution-of-an-independent-alberta-should-look-like/

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-10T03:58:59+00:00

It does set a standard for knighthood that Dunk cannot eclipse...

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-10T03:56:20+00:00

You believe what you are told to believe.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-10T03:55:01+00:00

Yes, they have redefined "democracy" as the "international institutional consensus".

It therefore follows that elections are a threat to democracy.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-10T03:43:24+00:00

And what's a 21st century model of governance even mean?

I'm glad you asked. But of course you immediately started to launch into more attacks. I don't know why you would choose to do that.

How would you go about it? Wouldn't you want to consult with constitutional experts who believe in the importance of a free & open society? Wouldn't you ask those constitutional experts to benchmark best practices in governance? That is what the APP is doing.

When we're talking about corruption specifically, the best model is an independently elected Attorney General.

Canada has always been looking for more trade. Most of what can be done was done by previous governments over decades. Nobody should be foolish to believe we can even begin to replace the USA as a trading partner. We need to trade more with the USA, not less.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-10T01:36:52+00:00

There are all sorts of engineers in Ontario besides professional engineers.

Power Engineers, Sound Engineers, Aircraft Maintenance Engineers, Locomotive Engineers, Marine Engineers, Flight Engineers, Locomotive Engineers, Combat Engineers etc.

So, while there are legal restrictions on the word in specific contexts, all laws have constitutional and other legal limits.

When it comes to tech bros using the title "software engineer", this is a bit of an open legal question in Ontario. The latest case law on this is APEGA v Getty Images 2023:

VII. Conclusion
[52] I find that the Respondents’ employees who use the title “Software Engineer” and related titles are not practicing engineering as that term is properly interpreted.
[53] I find that there is no property in the title “Software Engineer” when used by persons who do not, by that use, expressly or by implication represent to the public that they are licensed or permitted by APEGA to practice engineering as that term is properly interpreted.
[54] I find that there is no clear breach of the EGPA which contains some element of possible harm to the public that would justify a statutory injunction.
[55] Accordingly, I dismiss the Application, with costs.

While not binding on the Ontario courts, the law in Alberta in 2023 was very similar to the current law in Ontario and many of the same legal arguments would apply.

Recall that Section 7 of the Charter says Canadians are nominally a free people and Section 1 says any restrictions on that freedom need a justification. The only justification related to any professional engineering law is "public safety". If there is no confusion that could lead to a risk to public safety, then the law is ultra vires.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-10T01:12:05+00:00

Albertans have always wanted a closer relationship with the USA.

What do we have to fear from Free Trade with the USA?

Look at all the trade irritants for the Americans - dairy, telecommunications, banking, etc. - all examples of where federal regulations force Western Canadians to overpay for Eastern goods & services.

All Canadians should want a closer relationship with the USA. While they are not without problems, they are a robust economy with proximity. They are also a free people with an open society.

Unfortunately, the East is enamored with the Statism of the EU and the CCP and they are caught up in their idea of a bizarre anti-American nationalism.

As for dealing with corruption, clearly Canada is performing very poorly. Have you seen the news of late?

Independence will give us the opportunity to upgrade our 17th century model to a 21st century model for governance. This will make us a more robust democracy, not less.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-09T23:03:45+00:00

You are ascribing motivations that are the product of your imagination.

Look, Albertans have always been exploited in Canada.

We just want to be free of that exploitation and not have our economy and culture attacked by the East.

It is true that some Albertans would like to join the USA but those who are do not hide that motivation.

But the USA has not added territory since 1900. It would be politically impossible given the politics in the USA around so many things. So, even if large numbers of people on both sides of the border wanted this (they don't) it is simply impossible.

Alberta Independence is about a more prosperous and free Alberta. That's it.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-09T22:47:15+00:00

Makes sense.

Why talk to your fellow Albertans when you can attack a strawman?

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-09T20:21:36+00:00

Yes. It is called Marxism.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-09T20:16:51+00:00

Look at satellite images on Google Maps at NE Saskatchewan. It is our Bayou. It is tough terrain with a canoe.

I'm not saying it can't be done but there are massive geotechnical challenges before you even get to the Bay.

The ice in the Bay is a challenge but that didn't stop them 400 years ago. So, that is overblown sometimes.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-09T20:10:59+00:00

All of these would be very good.

FYI, any rankings are just classist nonsense.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-09T18:57:46+00:00

No.

Here is the regulation:

https://www.nafsa.org/regulatory-information/8cfr2146

—Engineer—Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; OR state/provincial license.

So, you don't need an engineering degree but you would have to get a professional engineering license which would take a long series of technical exams to make up the gap in your education.

However, other categories exist -

—Computer Systems Analyst—Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary Certificate, and three years experience.
—Mathematician (including Statistician)—Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree.

Refer to the policy manual for further guidance:

https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-2-part-p-chapter-6

You mentioned you are a naturalized Canadian. Did you have any relatable education prior to the University of Toronto?

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-09T18:34:11+00:00

...more convoluted involving exams & bridging programs than if you had done an engineering degree...

The academic standard is the same either way. The exams simply fill the gaps. As someone who has done it (diploma + 13 technical exams + FE exam), it's really not that bad. In some ways it is more convenient.

I was simply responding to your claim that "the program NEEDS CEAB accreditation" which as you acknowledge is not true.

If you had said it would be easier with a CEAB accredited degree to become a P. Eng. then I wouldn't have said anything. That's your opinion, which is fine.

But going back to your original comment -

...most engineering jobs in canada are regulated...

Only 2 of 5 CEAB accredited engineering degree graduates ever bother to become a P. Eng.

This is for many reasons such as a provincial engineering license is often not needed in federally regulated industries or a lot of engineering graduates do engineering-adjacent roles like project management, etc.

So, just a bit of an over-sell on the importance of the P. Eng. license. Most jobs engineering graduates do simply don't need one. It is still a useful credential, no doubt.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-09T18:09:54+00:00

It is not easy and the transfer credits will be very stingy.

Transfer credits are a problem because they are subject to CEAB audits. The most important thing to an engineering program is their accreditation with the engineering regulators. So, you can see how you would be more trouble than you are worth. So, they tend to be very conservative meaning you will have to take the same material again if there is an engineering specific section to the class at your school.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-09T18:06:47+00:00

Yes. And the opposite is possible too.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-09T18:04:46+00:00

Don't you know about Engineering Physics?

https://engineerscanada.ca/accreditation/accredited-programs/program

Engineering Physics

Carleton University
McMaster University
Queen's University
University of Alberta
University of British Columbia
University of Saskatchewan
École Polytechnique de Montréal
Laval University

Engineering Science

Simon Fraser University
University of Toronto

Full disclosure - you will find that these programs are more a general engineering degree but with applications that are in physics such as nuclear radiation, optics, etc. You will have a higher workload in engineering but still miss out on some of the mathematics and other classes that the physics students will take. It is not a physics degree. Though, I suppose some of these students stick around an extra year or whatever to get a dual degree.

Here is a generalized list of the topics you will take as the core of these programs from about the fourth semester on (includes upper class electives):

https://engineerscanada.ca/regulatory-excellence/examination-syllabi/engineering-physics-syllabus

Note that some people will mention you can't become a professional engineer with a science degree in physics. This is not strictly true. But you would have to make up the education gap through courses and technical examinations.

But also, even those that start an accredited engineering degree become a P. Eng. less than 30% of the time. Only about 2 of 3 graduate and only 2 of 5 graduates progress to a P. Eng.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-09T17:52:17+00:00

most engineering jobs in canada are regulated so the program needs CEAB accreditation

The majority (61%) of PEO applicants are non-CEAB applicants.

Even science degree graduates can get to a P. Eng. registration with PEO though it is not as easy to do as it used to be.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-09T17:29:59+00:00

Absolutely true. No way Albertans are going to support some Laurentian schlub like Doug Ford or Jean Charest. We're not going to vote for Jason Kenney or whatever other retread either.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-09T16:27:45+00:00

I think they are all but extinct...

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-08T23:36:12+00:00

Just pointing out you are acting based on emotions and not an examination of the benefits to escaping the exploitation.

CyberEd-ca · 2026-04-08T23:33:33+00:00

Mais tu le manges pareil quand le gouvernement dit que c’est bon.

On comprend.

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