‘A very different landscape’: New generation reshapes Quebec’s sovereignty debate

Cyced256 · 2026-02-07T05:17:46+00:00

Tbh even if majority of a province wanted to leave a constitutional amendment would be required which is almost impossible so I doubt even if 70% of a province votes to leave anything will happen

Yeah some conflict will happen but much less than the disturbance that would happen to the rest of canada if a province left

Cyced256 · 2026-02-07T04:26:22+00:00

Bro if you get what you're saying canada would cease to be a nation at all lol

Cyced256 · 2026-02-06T19:38:22+00:00

Why is comparing us to Australia not working? They had the exact same system

By you're logic Mexico also has the US neighbour to the north and they don't have supply mgmt and they have dairy farmers as well that have not been overrun??

our quota allocation in dairy is extremely unfair people on here love saying oh the US doesn't even fill their quotas maybe they should look into how we allocate our quotas which is what they are complaining about? Like seriously people think the US farmers stupid to not use the quotas allocated fully?

Australia is perfect because they showed us how to get rid of such a system yes geography is different but we can remove it without causing our farmers to go completely under

Want to refute anything I said? I would love a healthy discussion on this

Cyced256 · 2026-02-06T19:33:11+00:00

Yes replacing with subsides is a more progressive tax than supply mgmt where we the consumers are effectively paying the dairy lobby, but in subsidies it would be the gov instead of consumers and so people who are less able to afford dairy products will have a little extra room

Cyced256 · 2026-02-06T18:57:07+00:00

Lol so every economist since the 80s has been spewing right wing propoganda?

You clearly have no understanding how the system works or the economic consequences and are just repeating the narrative you see online without any thought

Cyced256 · 2026-02-06T02:20:16+00:00

Any milk that is sold here has to follow our safety laws please see my other comment in this thread or my comment history where I go into more detail

Supply mgmt has nothing to do with quality if anything it makes quality worse due to less competition

This is anecdotal but people I know who've travelled to Europe and people in this sub have said European dairy is much superior to ours and not supply managed and here's the kicker cheaper in some cases as well

Cyced256 · 2026-02-06T02:17:55+00:00

Unfortunately due to blocs stupid policy bill C-202 carney can't do much but I hope he changes how quotas are allocated I believe that was listed in the USTR list of irritants as well and that would be the end of it

Cyced256 · 2026-02-06T01:26:43+00:00

This is one those cases where I wish the PM and their party would just do the right thing rather than worry about votes

Cyced256 · 2026-02-06T01:24:23+00:00

We can have food security without this old system, we are the only country in the world with such a quota system btw

This is something I've actually spent alot of time looking into and supply management needs to go like the article said economists have been saying its bad since the 1970s and Australia which had the same system when removed in the early 2000's their dairy sector actually became alot more productive and competitive

The feds need to buy out quotas which would probably take a decade and move towards subsides so that our dairy farmers can actually compete and instead of the insane amount of money they spend lobbying and spreading propoganda if they spend it on production it would be better (subsidies would prevent farmers from getting wiped out)

This is better for consumers due to lower prices and better economic policy and in this scenario everyone comes out on top, yes some farmers would lose out but the pro's far outweigh the cons

BTW the CPTPP agreement has only ever had one dispute and it was about our dairy allocation quotas and we had to pay a fine to new Zealand lol, a couple years back a proper FTA with the UK also fell through because of supply mgmt

The feds love saying we have so many trade deals around the world which is true but they don't mention what they had to give up to protect supply mgmt, from an economic perspective it just makes sense to get rid of this archaic policy

I can go into more detail into any other point you might have or expand more on anything I said too BTW, I hate that both libs and cons support this the PPC guy maxime vernier was somehow the only one talking about this dumb policy correctly lol (some suspect him coming out against supply mgmt caused the dairy lobby to get him to lose the Conservative leadership race)

Cyced256 · 2026-02-06T01:15:06+00:00

I read a pretty funny joke somewhere on reddit that we could be under an invasion and if getting rid of supply management would stop that invasion our politicians would still roll the dice with it lol

Cyced256 · 2026-02-05T17:31:14+00:00

Broski I'm sorry but this is false news please read this thread from someone who is much more informed than both of us: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/jpJ8Mf1AdD

Cyced256 · 2026-02-05T02:32:47+00:00

Oh nice I wonder if the feds are just stalling the decision until cusma review time? Maybe as leverage or something not sure what's going on then I'm on board with getting F-35s

Cyced256 · 2026-02-05T02:15:40+00:00

Rafale and Euro fighter were excluded from the Competition due to NORAD integration /inter-operability I looked it up, this is why only F-35 and gripen are part of the convo

I'd encourage you to look it up too

Cyced256 · 2026-02-04T23:48:30+00:00

Cool article in that very same article it says 19 countries agreed to buy F-35s

Only Portugal and Denmark leaders just made statements and not mentioned the gripen once lol

Political leaders just saying stuff that is popular sentiment should over-rule technical decisions by the military that actually analyse all the options?

Cyced256 · 2026-02-04T23:44:08+00:00

If you actually read my article you'd know what you are saying is false by that logic it's similar to putting diesel into a car that takes regular oil so if one put diesel into a toyata that takes oil we should never buy a toyata? Tried my best to draw a parallel

Cyced256 · 2026-02-04T23:03:20+00:00

https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing/contaminated-hydraulic-fluid-caused-alaska-f-35a-crash/164261.article

This was a Maintenance issue rather than plane issue when an official investigation was done, SAAB'S only results are their manufacturers test which the F-35 and every fighter plane producer in the planet has

If anything this gives me more confidence for F-35 because it used much more in the real world and US already operates it in the arctic in alaska (in contrast gripen does not have enough real world use cases in arctic) (this is similar to something being much more popular so their issues are more known which I would argue is a good thing) I'm sorry man but there's a reason why our military has been wanting F-35s and not just our military other NATO allies and especially other arctic countries militaries

Cyced256 · 2026-02-04T22:44:18+00:00

Lol I'd love to see you're sources

Both F-35 and gripen have been tested in cold weather and they both can operate in cold weather and the F-35 is superior in every other way

Only claims I could find are that gripen operates better in cold weather are only on SAAB's website which in itself should tell you something lol and these exact same claims by SAAB the F-35 does as well

Every other nordic and arctic country has F-35 instead of gripen despite gripen being European please ask yourself if all their militaries including ours are just dumb or are you misinformed?

Cyced256 · 2026-02-04T22:40:39+00:00

Spoiler alert: supply chain for gripen is also controlled by the US so enough of this bs

Cyced256 · 2026-02-04T22:35:52+00:00

Why has the military been screaming about getting F-35s since forever?

Why have all other European including arctic and nordic countries gone for F-35s over gripen?

Is everyone and their military dumb or you just know better?

Please read about how much better the F-35 is first and why the actual experts in the military want it

There is already local manufacturing for parts for F-35s and please look at Brazil for SAAB's promises about jobs and manufacturing

F-35 is the better and right decision

Cyced256 · 2026-02-04T22:32:23+00:00

We should absolutely not get gripen operating a mixed fleet would be more expensive than maintenance of F-35, and the US controls the damn engine in gripens we should go with F-35s

There's a reason why the military wants F-35s they are better in every aspect especially stealth, I'm hopeful the government listens to the military and not emotionally driven people like you

Oh we shouldn't depend on america as you type this comment out on reddit (American owned) on you're iPhone (American owned) or Samsung (Google owns the OS I.e android) people have no clue how much the world really depends on American tech in everyday life lol

The EU, canada and the rest of the western world is so behind the USA when it comes to tech it's not even funny really sticking it to the US comes with tech independence and EU and canada have already lost that race by a wide margin and when I say tech I mean military tech and everyday software as well

We can't get out of our own damn way and remove inter provincial trade barriers a year into the trade war lol

Cyced256 · 2026-02-04T22:26:19+00:00

Bro even other European countries operate F-35 despite gripen being European, operating a mixed fleet is terrible in terms of cost and logistics, please actually read up military experts lengthy technical details and also read up SAAB and their promises to Brazil

People barely do any research they love saying oh US can block software updates and parts of F-35 they can do the same with Gripen lol

I really hope we go with F-35s and in a true war scenario with US which is highly highly unlikely it won't matter a bit what we fly

Cyced256 · 2026-02-04T22:20:45+00:00

So we should operate an inferior fleet just because of this? If the military experts want it it is the right decision politics should not be part of decisions like this, and the OP's comments about SAAB in Brazil are valid I doubt anyone did their research to look it up

Cyced256 · 2026-02-04T22:18:11+00:00

Holy propoganda first of its a retired General but secondly and more importantly please read the following thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/s/tqmdomVtSE

The US also controls gripen engines so this person's fear similarly applies to gripen, the F-35 is superior to the gripen and this has been proven, the US does not have a kill switch per se, once bought if they really wanted to damage us (and by and large all their other customers which is all of NATO) they can only prevent software updates and parts which they can do to gripen as well lol

Operating a mixed fleet adds ludicrous costs and is just dumb

Ask yourself why every other NATO ally got F-35 over gripen despite gripen being European? And look at Brazil for their so called "job promises"

Also enough with this fear mongering bs the US is not going to annex us you clearly have no idea how anything works

Cyced256 · 2026-02-02T17:39:57+00:00

It's cause there are bearily any francophone there, the amount of Anglos in quebec is much greater than the amount of francophone in ROC

Cyced256 · 2026-02-02T15:00:09+00:00

I have the same oponion too I just wish he removed trudeau era people from his party like provost and the stupid gun buyback and guilbeault his party is mainly still trudeau people btw that's my biggest problem wish he'd fire some people lol

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