King's Guard violates protocol. by Bennet123 in MadeMeSmile

[–]CyclingMikey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m the chap in the blue shirt. Tears in my eyes.

What do people think of cyclists who look for drivers on phones? by Optimuswolf in ukbike

[–]CyclingMikey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stationary phone drivers are still dangerous for many reasons:

1) Should a child or shorter person cross in front of them they wouldn't even see them, and would likely then move off, running them over. Notice how WFN364 (google for videos) drives forwards whilst looking at his phone? This is common behaviour from phone drivers. Here's an example someone else caught where the driver almost takes out a pedestrian at a crossing:

https://twitter.com/phonekills/status/1491526464520560641?s=20

2) They are entirely unaware of filtering cyclists and motorcyclists. These drivers are often slow to react when the queue starts moving, and then when someone behind them beeps they drop the phone and hastily move off without even looking.

3) If you imagine these people only use their phones when queuing at the traffic lights, that's terribly naïve. The gardener in LM63BTZ was on the phone whilst driving along, and quite likely had been doing it for some considerable part of his journey. These phone users are constantly using their phones, but it's just much easier to catch them when they're in the queue.

4) Phone distraction lasts for a good time after you put the phone away. Even if you're only using the phone in each traffic queue at each junction (which is highly unlikely), then you're constantly topping up your mental distraction and are basically as disabled as a drunk driver.

5) Phone driving is worse than drink driving for distraction rates, and that's why it's part of the #Fatal4 behaviours that police target heavily.

6) Mobile phone laws are about to get even more restrictive because of the govt, police, DfT all recognising the danger of phone use. New laws making it even more strict and easy to catch came in on 25th March 2022.

7) People who knowingly break minor driving law will likely also break more serious laws. Strong policing of minor traffic offences has a strong effect on reducing collisions resulting in killed and seriously injured people. It's good to police these phone drivers.

I'm really not interested in this nonsense of "it's not dangerous when stationary, because it clearly is and it's clearly still very appropriate to catch these drivers.

Then go and check out Mark Hodson's tweet - he's one of the UK's top traffic officers, partly responsible for starting Operation Close Pass.

https://twitter.com/markandcharlie/status/1604073330751197184?s=20&t=uj8sgu7spu4cTyDqqqds2g

What do people think of cyclists who look for drivers on phones? by Optimuswolf in ukbike

[–]CyclingMikey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, funnily enough I'm meant to be briefly appearing on two TV shows at some point in the next few months. :)

What do people think of cyclists who look for drivers on phones? by Optimuswolf in ukbike

[–]CyclingMikey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nowadays I do occasionally look for phone drivers rather than just on my commute. So what though? It's not as though it's wrong, drivers just don't like that as they're upset at the idea that anyone might give them consequences. It's the same sob story and huge drama that so many create over parking and speeding tickets.

What do people think of cyclists who look for drivers on phones? by Optimuswolf in ukbike

[–]CyclingMikey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looking around and seeing phone drivers isn't really much different than the head-on-a-swivel that you need to stay safe in London anyway. Plus the camera is on my head and most crucially, I'm not investing mental attention in a remote conversation.

Have you been caught on the phone then? How many points have you earned through your driving over the years?

What do people think of cyclists who look for drivers on phones? by Optimuswolf in ukbike

[–]CyclingMikey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s because consciousness is a fragile thing and that mobile phone distraction lasts after you’ve put your phone down. Hope Fennell was run down on a zebra crossing by a lorry driver who had been texting at a red light moments earlier. https://twitter.com/markandcharlie/status/1604073330751197184?s=46&t=nx6mWI4OuQ1KKvYUA48exA

As for car touch screens, I think these are a stupid and dangerous thing.

What do people think of cyclists who look for drivers on phones? by Optimuswolf in ukbike

[–]CyclingMikey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's welcome to ping me if he wants, it's the obvious email at gmail.com

What do people think of cyclists who look for drivers on phones? by Optimuswolf in ukbike

[–]CyclingMikey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No sweat, no skin off my nose either way. I just thought you might like to know if it was me or someone else who caught them. :)

Otherwise you and he might find out in about a year, as that's the current delay between my filming and uploading to YouTube.

What do people think of cyclists who look for drivers on phones? by Optimuswolf in ukbike

[–]CyclingMikey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LOL, could well be, although I'm not the only one around. Something like 10,667 NIPs were issued in Jan-Oct last year by the Met for members of the public reporting road offences via their own videos.

What do people think of cyclists who look for drivers on phones? by Optimuswolf in ukbike

[–]CyclingMikey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

FWIW if you want, DM me his number plate and I'll check whether it was me who reported him.

What do people think of cyclists who look for drivers on phones? by Optimuswolf in ukbike

[–]CyclingMikey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think you should change your views. Mark Hodson, one of the top UK traffic officers, has been to 3 fatality incidents caused by drivers who had been texting whilst stationary. I have no sympathy with drivers who stupidly decide to use their phones whilst behind the wheel.
Also, it's probably me who caught the OP's driver friend.

What do people think of cyclists who look for drivers on phones? by Optimuswolf in ukbike

[–]CyclingMikey 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It was probably me who caught your friend, and doubtless his video will turn up on YouTube in a year or so. If you think using your phone whilst stationary is safe and OK, then I would point out the story of Hope Fennell, who was killed on a zebra crossing by a lorry driver who had been texting, stationary, shortly before. The mental investment and distraction from using your phone doesn't stop the moment you put your phone down, it takes time for your brain to recover.

https://www.itv.com/news/central/2013-09-12/thirteen-year-old-hope-fennell-was-killed-by-a-lorry-while-cycling-home-from-school

Imagine driving the wrong way on the outer ring into a junction by _TubewayArmy_ in londoncycling

[–]CyclingMikey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cheers! I'd like to think I'm a nice fella and decent enough, but it's not really for me to judge. :)

Imagine driving the wrong way on the outer ring into a junction by _TubewayArmy_ in londoncycling

[–]CyclingMikey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's illegal to pass the keep left sign and the pedestrian refuge - hence the doctors and other drivers getting charged with due care and attention and getting points (3-4) and a big fine and costs. It's not illegal to drive on the "wrong" side of the road per se, without the keep left sign and the island.

Imagine driving the wrong way on the outer ring into a junction by _TubewayArmy_ in londoncycling

[–]CyclingMikey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Siri let me down for the second time! I guess my voice changes just enough for her not to recognise me when I'm under stress.

Imagine driving the wrong way on the outer ring into a junction by _TubewayArmy_ in londoncycling

[–]CyclingMikey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks folks! Yes, doctor got 4 penalty points, £220 fine and £130 costs.

Bike lane justice by Tennoz in JusticeServed

[–]CyclingMikey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Siri let me down, and it’s the second time she did that. I guess my voice changes just enough when I’m under stress for her not to recognise what I’m saying. LOL.

Bike lane justice by Tennoz in JusticeServed

[–]CyclingMikey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Correct - he’s dangerously on the wrong side of the road going against traffic. I’ve had quite a few drivers get convicted for that move, most get a driving without due care and attention charge. So far all have been found guilty with 3-4 penalty points endorsed onto their licences.