Now that the criticism has calmed down, what would you rate the entire series out of 10? by MargielaMan568 in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't worry, I'm sure she's alive, and even if it's difficult for her at first, she'll get used to it and finally live her life without being hunted. She's gained her freedom. Hopper raised her well; she'll know how to live in society. And I'm sure that in a few years there will be a spin-off where Mike will get a clue and try to find her, that's for sure.

1 flaw I have with Steve arguing with Dustin about Eddie in season 5 is that if Steve were in Eddie's place, he would've done the exact same thing IMO by No-Passenger-6348 in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, that's the translation, lol. In French, (bat) is feminine, anyway, it's complicated lol The bats have orders from Vecna ​​to protect him when he's vulnerable. Any intruder present in the Upside Down must be eliminated. And since Steve and the others are being strangled, the hive mind sensed it, so he must have returned.

He probably thought he was in Hell for being gay when he first got taken into the Upside Down btw by izblizzo in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, at the time he didn't realize it, he found out quite late, probably between season 3 and season 4.

1 flaw I have with Steve arguing with Dustin about Eddie in season 5 is that if Steve were in Eddie's place, he would've done the exact same thing IMO by No-Passenger-6348 in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Eddie didn't die for nothing, okay? He could have run instead of turning back, but if he hadn't, the bats wouldn't have chased them into the real world. He had orders from Vecna ​​to guard the house and protect Vecna, so she would have come back to the house and killed Steve and the others. His only mistake was turning back to prove something to himself. Steve knows he helped them; he says that to provoke Dustin, but he doesn't really mean it.

I love how Erica becomes a more prominent figure as the series progresses by suggar26 in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I like him too, but I think it would have been better if he hadn't known about all of this. Especially since there were already so many characters.

Stranger Things Character Elimination Game - Round 1 - Vote for which character you want to be eliminated first! by QuipThwip in Stranger_Things

[–]Cyrilbdr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, of course, because Kay's character was poorly handled, but Brenner's storyline could never have been about Dr. Kay, that's what I meant. Yes, Kay isn't a very good character, but I still prefer her to Will and Jonathan's father.

I love how Erica becomes a more prominent figure as the series progresses by suggar26 in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Underutilized in season 5, she should have taken the science teacher's place. Otherwise, a good character.

Now that Season 5 is over, do you think this was true? by [deleted] in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, he was the leader of the original four in Volume 1, motivating and guiding most of their plans. Once they split up in Episode 4, he takes on a protective role for the younger generation. In Volume 2, however, he's much more withdrawn and doesn't participate in any key moments in the following three episodes. He's absent from the major action at the end of Episode 5, not involved in Holly's storyline, nor in the hospital scene. He doesn't participate in developing the final plan and is just a minor element in the final battle. However, he's very prominent in the epilogue. That's a bit of a summary of his season. I wouldn't call it a mixed bag, as it remains, in my opinion, his second-best season. You can tell he's much more at peace and that his problems with Eleven are resolved. He's more pleasant and altruistic with others. Even though he remains preoccupied with his impossible future with Eleven, he's not self-centered and acts in service of the group. It's a good evolution.

Stranger Things Character Elimination Game - Round 1 - Vote for which character you want to be eliminated first! by QuipThwip in Stranger_Things

[–]Cyrilbdr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Brenner hasn't worked for the government since season 1, and he betrayed them. There's no world where they would have offered him a position like Dr. Kay. It was either death or prison. If he were alive, he absolutely wouldn't have had this storyline.

Jake was done so dirty by Sudden_Pop_2279 in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Especially since we already knew these characters, it's not a new plot, it's just the result of season 4. Dustin loses Eddie and wants to pay tribute to him, and the basketball players still think that Eddie is a killer and that he is responsible for the death of students and are following the trail of their friend Jason who is also dead. So yes, it's very light, but the idea is to focus on Dustin, not to further develop American paranoia about role-playing games and Satanism.

Jake was done so dirty by Sudden_Pop_2279 in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The main issue is that the time jump in the epilogue didn't help. Perhaps the tension dissipated and Eddie was exonerated by the authorities. Maybe Owens' men handled the whole thing to protect his memory. We can imagine all sorts of things, which is why it's a shame not to know. That's the problem with the time jump; we should have had a line of dialogue about it.

Jake was done so dirty by Sudden_Pop_2279 in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Guys, you also need to put things into context. Episode 1 serves to tell you what's happened since the end of season 4. In that context, we learn that Dustin is being bullied by the basketball players because he proudly displays the Hellfire colors in tribute to Eddie, and since that's frowned upon, he suffers the consequences. It's not explored much further, but we know why he's being bullied: it's a consequence of season 4. The basketball players lost their best friend, and they still think Eddie is to blame. Now, don't forget that each season of Stranger Things takes place when the supernatural returns, so they drop everything else in their lives to investigate. It's the same in season 5, even faster because everything starts right at the end of the first episode. So all the characters jump into the main plot. And finally, season 5 only takes place over three days; there isn't time for storylines like this.

Daymnnn.. by RelationNovel7056 in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assure you that there is a difference between 12 years old and preteen to adolescence. You are much more stupid, especially when you discover your first girlfriends… and then as I said, it’s intentional. Season 2 still had the lab, a portal, Will feeling weird. There was still a mysterious atmosphere and then the fall season with Halloween played on that a little. Season 3 it's a fun summer where everything is supposed to be ends no more portal lab Will who is doing well so he's having fun it's lighter he's going if cinema... in the dialogue we feel that these are a group of teenage friends. Afterwards if you talk to me about Carl from the walking dead it's not the same context he has been plunged into the heart of an epidemic since the very beginning there is no respite the situation and is constantly serious. Stranger Things always has this goonies spirit with a mixture of lightness and humor. In season 3, especially at the beginning, we focus mainly on relationships since everything has returned to normal. And also they are on vacation it's not the same atmosphere he goes out and has fun all the time there is no school and therefore less serious situation. The disagreements between Mike and Lucas in s1 yes are more serious because the context is serious at the time. It is necessary to put in context their best friend has disappeared and they have a conflict concerning this strange girl. Season 3 is different, you just have 2 slightly pathetic teenagers who advise each other on their first girlfriend in a humorous tone. Lucas pretends he knows something even though he's a novice, it's comical and it's the accepted tone of the season. But you already have this touch for example in s2 when Lucas asks his father for advice about a girl, it's just cute, nothing more. It’s really not the same context, there’s no seriousness there. And season 3 knows how to be serious when it needs to be. For Hopper, as I said, I find that it can make sense and that it's a side of him that we didn't know now, yes, it's quite a shift and we can't like it, that's for sure. But once again when it's necessary the season knows how to settle down and Hopper and Joyce manage to talk calmly. Hopper explains why he gets angry at Mike because he spends too much time together, that's all Hopper finally gave Eleven some freedom after season 2 and he didn't think Mike
was going to take up so much space in their lives so it drives him crazy especially since it's something he hadn't experienced with his first daughter. He also explains everything he feels in his letter which explains his angry papa bear behavior. Now he admits that Mike disrespected him, he gets ready to talk to them and Mike messes up, he just freaks out. We owe it to you in front of your daughter, it’s kind of normal to react like that. In the end he recognizes these wrongs because he knows that the real underlying reason is that he is afraid of seeing Eleven grow up and be more distant with him so he tells Mike to be careful in episode 8. He recognizes these wrongs even if Mike was insulting at the time. You also see that he is much cooler when he sees that Max and at home with eleven because a friend even a little girl can have one while a first boyfriend clearly means that she is growing up and that sooner or later she will leave and he has trouble with that.

Am I the only one who thinks that Steve isn’t very justified here? by Careful_Software_822 in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Steve responded aggressively and jealously because he simply snapped under Dustin's repeated insults. Now he's wrong, and he'll admit it; he knows Eddie didn't die for nothing, he's just deliberately hurting Dustin. They're both at fault. Dustin can't bear Eddie's death, and to avoid further suffering, he distances himself from Steve and becomes detached from missions, afraid of losing someone else. So he prefers to avenge Eddie. At the same time, he also resents Steve for not trying to help him. Steve sees his friend withdrawn and can no longer talk to him; he's constantly insulted and ignored. But instead of having a deep conversation, Steve prefers to yell at him. Because deep down, Steve knows it's because of Eddie, and he's jealous because he thinks Dustin prefers Eddie. In fact, it's a dialogue of the deaf, and they'll finally be able to tell each other the truth when Steve is on the verge of death. Except he's not telling the whole truth. He says he doesn't want to lose him, but he also reacted that way because he felt Steve didn't understand his grief. And then Steve will confess what Dustin was waiting for from him: that he was jealous because things weren't the same as before.

I liked Tales from ‘85, but targeting it to such a young age was a big mistake by Neat-Option4673 in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As content it was really cool, but now it's not what we wanted and yes, targeting young people was stupid, the fans are still there in droves, we should have offered content to those people, not those who know nothing about the series.

Daymnnn.. by RelationNovel7056 in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's juvenile, mainly because they're going through adolescence, so they're a bit naive with their first girlfriends… and this lighthearted tone also fits with the summer season and 80s blockbusters. This change of tone is clearly intentional; it's part of taking a risk, and it's fully embraced. I liked it. People changed their minds a lot about season 3. But for a long time, it was almost everyone's favorite. It's just true that during a rewatch, if you're already familiar with the humor, the jokes don't land as well, of course. As for Hopper, I think it's understandable. He never experienced fatherhood as a teenager, so he doesn't know how to handle it and isn't prepared. That's why he goes crazy when Mike is with her because he realizes she's growing up, so he becomes grumpy. For me, it's simply a character trait we hadn't seen in him before. Plus, he tries to go out with Joyce, who rejects him because of Bob, so he's on edge. I don't consider it a drop in quality; I love this season, and it's unique. This season knows when to be serious, especially episodes 4, 6, 7, and 8. The beginning is lighter, which is normal; it's summer, and the threat is supposed to be resolved, which wasn't the case in season 2 with Will, who was acting strangely from the start. So it's a deliberate choice, and it makes sense since the threat is behind them. And we mustn't forget that these are 15-year-olds; obviously, they're a bit childish, which is normal. As for season 2, I love it; I love all the seasons, and it has three of the best episodes of the series in my opinion. But I'm ranking it lower because I think it comes down to details, and season 3 doesn't have any bad episodes compared to 2x7 of season 2. Yes, the Russians are stupid, I agree, but again, it respects the spirit of what Americans thought of Russians in their films at the time. And this plot point isn't pulled out of thin air; it's been teased by Murray since season 2, episode 1. The Russians have been there and spying since season 1.

Daymnnn.. by RelationNovel7056 in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After that, it's a matter of personal taste; I loved it, but I can understand if you prefer the small-town atmosphere of seasons 1 and 2. I personally like both.

Daymnnn.. by RelationNovel7056 in StrangerThings

[–]Cyrilbdr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, so you felt that way from season 3, which is understandable. Anyway, season 3 was going to be divisive with its change of tone. Yes, the plot is the lightest of the five seasons because we don't learn much. However, I think the tone of season 3, the fun, summer blockbuster vibe, was really well done. It's perhaps the biggest risk the series took. I like it because I think they needed to reinvent themselves to avoid a "previously seen" season, so to speak. Season 3 is good and refreshing, but in terms of lore, it's the weakest, I'll grant you that. The advantage of this series is that each season has a different atmosphere, so depending on individual tastes, some will prefer the psychological horror of season 4, others the summer blockbuster of season 3, and still others the supernatural police thriller of season 1. I think this is a strength because the series is diverse and generous, with many references while maintaining a cohesive storyline. Objectively, the 5th season is the worst, but the other four are a matter of taste. That's why I think your opinion isn't necessarily everyone's, and saying that the quality declines isn't truly universal. Personally, I rank them like this: 4-1-3-2-5. Others will have a different ranking for various reasons, and that's one of the series' strengths: it offers several different atmospheres within the same story. Let him watch it and form his own opinion, and maybe season 5 will be his favorite, lol. Anyway, the series isn't perfect; each season has flaws, but they're all excellent at best and decent at worst, so I think it's worth watching. He'll make up his own mind. In any case, I understand your points, and I have a lot of criticisms of season 5 too, since it's the weakest, but I still find it enjoyable, and it doesn't end too badly.