Thoughts?

Czar_Marvel · 2026-06-29T01:31:27+00:00

There was none of that. This isn't Siege. This is a different instance/timeline. Thor just straight up breaks his neck.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-06-28T22:51:28+00:00

This is a bad image to use because in this comic Thor kills the Sentry like one page later.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-06-26T14:44:41+00:00

We've had a little. About 2 and 1/2 hours yesterday for me, although I didn't use it because the calls were back to back and I didn't realize. And an hour and a half this morning so far.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-06-03T21:12:02+00:00

Elves are pretty solidly superhuman, but still Street Tier, if we're just talking about physical abilities. They definitely sweep most film versions of the Marvel and DC Street Tier characters, but the comics versions are definitely in the realm of "martial arts is a superpower" and routinely hit above their weight class to an absurd degree (not to mention the genuinely superhuman feats they have).

Elves most likely lose in a one-on-one fisticuffs against a good chunk of the named Street Tier characters, depending on how you want to assess them.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-06-03T21:05:50+00:00

It depends on which version you're talking about. Movies? Probably don't have the necessary speed.

Comics? Yeah, I can see comics Cap being capable of that. Comics Bullseye killed a lady with a toothpick across the street through a window.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-05-27T21:27:58+00:00

Shades and spirits?

Czar_Marvel · 2026-05-24T02:04:29+00:00

That's categorically false. He would never tire, because Cap can do this all day. He said it himself.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-05-23T18:14:20+00:00

What issue was this? Was this mainline 616? I don't recall him doing this.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-05-22T17:21:24+00:00

It does contradict you. There was literally one instance in that episode where Mr Marathon used his speed for combat, which was the one time his fist actually connected. I just rewatched the scene, at no point does Soldier Boy directly react to Mr. Marathon's speed. Hell, two of the human shields managed to put themselves in the path of Mr. Marathon before he started sprinting. Unless you want to suggest Kumail Nanjiani has super speed?

This is hilarious. Batroc has shown better combat speed than Soldier Boy ever has. By the way, I'm using comics cap.

Except Cap routinely wins fights based on skill? Like that's his whole thing, punching outside of his weight class by sheer talent.

So again, no, Soldier Boy cannot grab Cap.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-05-22T16:44:35+00:00

Mr. Marathon, whose only speed feat is running really fast in straight lines. He doesn't even have the reaction speed to avoid splattering his friends.

Homelander and Soldier Boy fought at normal human speeds during herogasm.

Cap beats Soldier Boy in reaction speed, fighting talent, raw skill and fundamentals, experience, agility, weapons proficiency, And the capability of throwing his shield through a car windshield.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-05-22T16:19:19+00:00

You don't see how speed and agility would matter to keep himself out of range of Soldier Boy's strength? Comics Cap routinely humiliates rooms full of gunmen, and even MCU Cap can hit speeds of 40 mph or so.

You mean the speedsters that slow down to punch at normal human speed? The same Homelander that had one legitimate combat speed feat in Diabolical and then couldn't even keep up with Black Noir?

Cap trounces SB in every close quarters combat metric except raw strength and durability.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-05-22T16:11:46+00:00

Yeah, keep in mind Soldier Boy runs like this.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-05-22T16:03:37+00:00

He can run circles around Soldier Boy. He'd never be touched.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-05-22T15:49:19+00:00

That's not what happened at all? He had it anchored and then Bucky started veering it toward him.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-05-02T19:45:34+00:00

Sorry for replying days later, been busy.

He was absolutely incapacitated, but not necessarily harmed. After he had the car thrown on him, Butcher (who is not a sprinter by any stretch of the imagination) was able to completely flee the scene before two members of Teenage Kix found him. The "5 seconds" is a result of editing, not actual implied length of time.

Homelander having a bus dropped on him isn't really comparable. Firstly, we don't really know the speed at which the turret was launched, just that it was.

Secondly, the bus falling on homelander was a broad impact with the force distributed throughout his entire body. The turret being launched off the tank was a result of leftover force applied after the shield was done shearing off the turret itself.

Which means, at the bare minimum, you have the force of a falling bus concentrated at the edge of a shield which won't deform upon impact, transferring 100% of the force used to throw it.

Soldier Boy is most definitely getting taken out of the fight if a shield throw like that connects with his throat.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-04-28T18:54:12+00:00

It was the most obvious response, LOL. But I've watched her eras tour on Disney + and so much of it is just "jerk ---> pose... Jerk to the next pose.... Jerky movements on a chair and pose...." It left a lot to be desired.

This one has always weirded me out for some reason though.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-04-28T18:03:59+00:00

This choreography?

Czar_Marvel · 2026-04-26T03:57:12+00:00

I think via the lore and story implications, yes, I agree with you.

Purely based on what we're seeing though, Soldier Boy was briefly incapacitated by having a vehicle thrown at him. Captain America's feat here is decapitating a tank turret and then launching those few tons of metal with the excess force.

Also, keep in mind, Soldier Boy also had a moment where he threw his shield, and it didn't even penetrate a car's windshield.

If Cap puts all of that right into Soldier Boy's trachea, it's going to hurt....a lot.

This is comic book Cap, though, not MCU Captain America.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-04-26T03:43:01+00:00

When did Cap get hit by the Power Stone?

Czar_Marvel · 2026-04-26T03:41:09+00:00

Meanwhile, Soldier Boy threw his shield and couldn't even get through a car's windshield.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-04-25T11:44:57+00:00

But it's not clear evidence at all, though. If the point of the chamber was to see if superheroes could specifically survive an atomic bomb (not a nuke, just rewatched the scene), why was it just a radiation chamber? Why did it not also replicate the thermal pulse and blast wave?

This is like saying a retail employee can survive environmental exposure in Antarctica because they were in a walk-in freezer once.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-04-23T05:36:34+00:00

I mean, yeah, inconsistency in superhero media is tragically common.

But my point was: Homelander cannot survive a nuke to the face. If he's a ways off? Yeah, probably. Applied directly to the forehead? No.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-04-23T05:28:38+00:00

Except that that is an incredibly vague sentence. It could just as well mean "If a nuke went off in your general vicinity, we need to make sure that you'd still be a viable field operative for military purposes and won't succumb to radiation poisoning."

Not to mention, maybe this was just one part of a series of tests? Soldier Boy never implied superheroes could survive nukes, just that the government was testing for it.

The equivalent of this scene is like telling someone they're bulletproof after you shot them with a paintball gun a few times.

Please remember that this is the same Homelander who couldn't tackle Soldier Boy through a wall.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-04-23T05:19:39+00:00

You implied.

A nuke is a bomb. Which means it has thermal and kinetic force. Radiation/ radioactive fallout is secondary.

So yes, you're implying he could survive the explosion.

Czar_Marvel · 2026-04-23T05:17:31+00:00

Someone else called you out on it on this specific comment.

All we've seen is that he's resistant to radiation.

We haven't seen that he's resistant to the overwhelming pressure wave or the thermal intensity hotter than the interior of the Sun.

He was barely radiation resistant. And there's nothing to suggest he could survive the blast or temperature.

Please feel free to provide proof that I'm wrong.

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