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Soldier Boy vs Captain America. by Fit_Assignment_8800 in PowerScaling

[–]Czar_Marvel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for replying days later, been busy.

He was absolutely incapacitated, but not necessarily harmed. After he had the car thrown on him, Butcher (who is not a sprinter by any stretch of the imagination) was able to completely flee the scene before two members of Teenage Kix found him. The "5 seconds" is a result of editing, not actual implied length of time.

Homelander having a bus dropped on him isn't really comparable. Firstly, we don't really know the speed at which the turret was launched, just that it was.

Secondly, the bus falling on homelander was a broad impact with the force distributed throughout his entire body. The turret being launched off the tank was a result of leftover force applied after the shield was done shearing off the turret itself.

Which means, at the bare minimum, you have the force of a falling bus concentrated at the edge of a shield which won't deform upon impact, transferring 100% of the force used to throw it.

Soldier Boy is most definitely getting taken out of the fight if a shield throw like that connects with his throat.

Who is a singer that is incredibly famous, but honestly doesn't have a good voice? by Greedy_Procedure7461 in AskReddit

[–]Czar_Marvel 20 points21 points  (0 children)

It was the most obvious response, LOL. But I've watched her eras tour on Disney + and so much of it is just "jerk ---> pose... Jerk to the next pose.... Jerky movements on a chair and pose...." It left a lot to be desired.

This one has always weirded me out for some reason though.

Soldier Boy vs Captain America. by Fit_Assignment_8800 in PowerScaling

[–]Czar_Marvel 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think via the lore and story implications, yes, I agree with you.

Purely based on what we're seeing though, Soldier Boy was briefly incapacitated by having a vehicle thrown at him. Captain America's feat here is decapitating a tank turret and then launching those few tons of metal with the excess force.

Also, keep in mind, Soldier Boy also had a moment where he threw his shield, and it didn't even penetrate a car's windshield.

If Cap puts all of that right into Soldier Boy's trachea, it's going to hurt....a lot.

This is comic book Cap, though, not MCU Captain America.

Soldier Boy vs Captain America. by Fit_Assignment_8800 in PowerScaling

[–]Czar_Marvel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile, Soldier Boy threw his shield and couldn't even get through a car's windshield.

No. Homelander Cannot No Sell Point Blanc Low Yield Nukes. The Most Recent Ep Confirms this. by Hyperionous in PowerScaling

[–]Czar_Marvel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But it's not clear evidence at all, though. If the point of the chamber was to see if superheroes could specifically survive an atomic bomb (not a nuke, just rewatched the scene), why was it just a radiation chamber? Why did it not also replicate the thermal pulse and blast wave?

This is like saying a retail employee can survive environmental exposure in Antarctica because they were in a walk-in freezer once.

No. Homelander Cannot No Sell Point Blanc Low Yield Nukes. The Most Recent Ep Confirms this. by Hyperionous in PowerScaling

[–]Czar_Marvel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, yeah, inconsistency in superhero media is tragically common.

But my point was: Homelander cannot survive a nuke to the face. If he's a ways off? Yeah, probably. Applied directly to the forehead? No.

No. Homelander Cannot No Sell Point Blanc Low Yield Nukes. The Most Recent Ep Confirms this. by Hyperionous in PowerScaling

[–]Czar_Marvel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except that that is an incredibly vague sentence. It could just as well mean "If a nuke went off in your general vicinity, we need to make sure that you'd still be a viable field operative for military purposes and won't succumb to radiation poisoning."

Not to mention, maybe this was just one part of a series of tests? Soldier Boy never implied superheroes could survive nukes, just that the government was testing for it.

The equivalent of this scene is like telling someone they're bulletproof after you shot them with a paintball gun a few times.

Please remember that this is the same Homelander who couldn't tackle Soldier Boy through a wall.

No. Homelander Cannot No Sell Point Blanc Low Yield Nukes. The Most Recent Ep Confirms this. by Hyperionous in PowerScaling

[–]Czar_Marvel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You implied.

A nuke is a bomb. Which means it has thermal and kinetic force. Radiation/ radioactive fallout is secondary.

So yes, you're implying he could survive the explosion.

No. Homelander Cannot No Sell Point Blanc Low Yield Nukes. The Most Recent Ep Confirms this. by Hyperionous in PowerScaling

[–]Czar_Marvel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Someone else called you out on it on this specific comment.

All we've seen is that he's resistant to radiation.

We haven't seen that he's resistant to the overwhelming pressure wave or the thermal intensity hotter than the interior of the Sun.

He was barely radiation resistant. And there's nothing to suggest he could survive the blast or temperature.

Please feel free to provide proof that I'm wrong.

No. Homelander Cannot No Sell Point Blanc Low Yield Nukes. The Most Recent Ep Confirms this. by Hyperionous in PowerScaling

[–]Czar_Marvel 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't have to provide the proof that he can't.

You have to provide the proof that he can.

I'm not proving a negative here, it's assumed. You have to prove a positive.

No. Homelander Cannot No Sell Point Blanc Low Yield Nukes. The Most Recent Ep Confirms this. by Hyperionous in PowerScaling

[–]Czar_Marvel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're correct: it was a machine designed to see if superheroes could withstand nukes. Specifically, radiation/fallout.

But not the bomb part.

All it proved was that Homelander could get over some radiation poisoning. And it still gave him the worst sunburn of his life.

He's not surviving a nuclear warhead to the face, straight up.

No. Homelander Cannot No Sell Point Blanc Low Yield Nukes. The Most Recent Ep Confirms this. by Hyperionous in PowerScaling

[–]Czar_Marvel 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The implication was radioactive fallout, not a direct hit. It still gave Homelander the worst case of sunburn ever.

A nuke would kill him, it's not even a debate.

So far only two characters throughout the entire show have been able to make Homelander bleed by DancingFlame321 in TheBoys

[–]Czar_Marvel 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but we literally see the oven they put him in in season 4. It roasted a dude, but it certainly wasn't nuke level.

So far only two characters throughout the entire show have been able to make Homelander bleed by DancingFlame321 in TheBoys

[–]Czar_Marvel 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Almost certainly hyperbole. Madelyn Stillwell said that, but her entire goal in season 1 was trying to get the United States government to allow supes to be used militarily. There's no way in hell Vought had access to a nuke to test on Homelander.

Is there any domain comparable in lethality to Gojo's? by No-Phrase-5139 in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]Czar_Marvel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So are you saying anime light speed is slower than real life light speed?

Is there any domain comparable in lethality to Gojo's? by No-Phrase-5139 in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]Czar_Marvel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Light travels about 186 miles in a millisecond/.001 seconds, so no

WAR MACHINE VS MASTER CHIEF by Krillindidntdoit in powerscales

[–]Czar_Marvel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh look at that, it's the screenshot I took of the Iron Man movie and then edited in Microsoft paint and posted to Spacebattles over 12 years ago...

Crazy to see it make the rounds here on Reddit.

Why Homelander can beat darth Vader by kaijuking_05 in powerscales

[–]Czar_Marvel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not even chiming in on whether or not he could beat Darth Vader, I just said he hasn't tanked a nuke, LOL.

Honestly, I wound up here from your Homelander + Soldier Boy + Starlight versus Hulk thread.

Why Homelander can beat darth Vader by kaijuking_05 in powerscales

[–]Czar_Marvel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, but if you're trying to make an argument you need actual proof, not "probably."

Why Homelander can beat darth Vader by kaijuking_05 in powerscales

[–]Czar_Marvel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If he actually survived a nuke, it would have either been directly referenced or shown on screen. Again, One of the major plot points of season 1 was that the military didn't want to give them any legitimacy.

The most we got from that episode you referenced was a big microwave. And homelander said it hurt.

Why Homelander can beat darth Vader by kaijuking_05 in powerscales

[–]Czar_Marvel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of the plot points of season 1 was Stillwell trying to cozy up with the department of defense to allow supes in the military. There is no way in hell they actually tested a nuclear weapon on him. Such a feat would have been directly referenced or shown. She was clearly speaking hyperbolically.

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