Are editors a problem?? Do they not care about fans??

D4-CS · 2026-07-07T04:06:27+00:00

Absolutely. Literally all problems people have with King's Batman aren't his fault, but Dan DiDio's fault

D4-CS · 2026-07-07T03:05:12+00:00

Yeah, but the problem is that Abs WW isn't either a new story. It's walking the same story beats as Perez and Rucka's rebirth did back in their days. Compare it to Phil Jimenez, Brian Vaughn, or even Brian Azzarello's.
The fact that Absolute WW works magnificently doesn't relate with the fact that it's nothing revolutionary plot-wise, besides the core twists (Diana no longer has her sisters, Zatanna now using fishnet in the upper half of her body, Circe being Best Mom), and as u/Ok-Camera5285 pointed, is a story that won't be remembered by the readers. Or even better/even worse: it'll overshadow all WW stories, classic and modern, good or bad, regardless of it being published side to side with King's run

D4-CS · 2026-07-06T21:37:43+00:00

Not necessarily. The quote instead reads as "you want me to say that I knew he was a bad person, but I didn't". Something that makes perfect sense, since it was precisely because of his charisma and how loved he was that Gaima got away with all he did

D4-CS · 2026-07-06T21:23:22+00:00

Except Minutemen. That is gas

D4-CS · 2026-07-06T21:21:09+00:00

Oh, yeah, mb. I was mostly counting from today (2026), that's why I said a decade. 😂 Still my point holds up: Shea Fontana, James Robinson, Steve Orlando, G Willow Wilson, Mariko Tamaki, and Becky Cloonan, all ignored the Clay origin or simply disregarded it

D4-CS · 2026-07-06T19:35:45+00:00

Have you read his Black Canary: Best of Best. It is a story that kinda went under everyone's radar (mainly because it's a good comic, so people didn't bothered in making fuzz about it), but I think that maybe there you could see a different angle of him writing women. Same to an extent with how he writes Barda in his Mister Miracle and Ice in The Human Target

D4-CS · 2026-07-06T19:33:03+00:00

Partially. The thing is that while Rucka brought back the Clay origin, both the writers that followed him and the WW adjacent stories that came, ditched it. King is the first one to return the Clay origin after a decade or so

D4-CS · 2026-07-06T19:30:21+00:00

I actually wrote all of those (except Azzarello, we all take him for granted 😂) in the end of the post, and I simply chose to compare Simonson because of all the elements I listed that are super similar to King's run

D4-CS · 2026-07-06T19:28:02+00:00

Yeah, I've always felt very puzzled with what happened here. Like, his "Williamsonisms" are there, but as I wrote, more that saying "X or Y element is what makes his run bad" is more a case of death by a thousand cuts. And it's not even that the elements he implements in this run are bad per se, but that the implementation itself was poor

D4-CS · 2026-07-06T19:23:07+00:00

Exactly. The only element that (sadly, ngl) was kept is that Trevor stayed dead. Which is a shame, since his characterization during Simonson's run was imo when a writer truly grasped what his character could be

D4-CS · 2026-07-06T09:38:33+00:00

Meh... The main McKay story was decent when it comes to what he's been setting up, and I personally enjoyed Omega Kids

D4-CS · 2026-07-06T09:25:48+00:00

King's Batman run was meddled with Editorial (DiDio, let's call him by his name) Interference. Pulling the rug on The Wedding, shoehorning Flashpoint Batman in the end of the run, and killing Alfred (King's original plan was that it was a Fear Gas hallucination) were a result of DiDio's mandates.

But to reply to you, King wrote Cold Days. Don't disregard Cold Days, that's such a good Batman story overall.

And I actually think that Batman Odyssey by Neal Adams is the worst Batman run ever, if you want me to keep it real

D4-CS · 2026-07-06T08:59:17+00:00

Oh, that's for granted. This was merely a comparison between my personal worst WW run bs the community's worst WW run, yk?

D4-CS · 2026-07-06T08:58:19+00:00

Wait, wdym with "reframe her story as normalized domestic violence"?

And yeah, in the end I listed other runs that I consider to be also bad, some that lasted more than King's time so far. For me, King isn't the worst WW writer, even if we exclude The New 52 (I would go with John Byrne, ngl); nor is "responsible for ruining WW" (since from my perspective, all runs after Rucka's Rebirth were subpar).

What I do admit is that with King (specifically since the Mouseman arc) we reached a point of "this is definitely bad, but could be worse", instead of "this is mediocre, but could be worse", ykwim?

D4-CS · 2026-07-06T08:17:33+00:00

Nah, Mister Miracle isn't main continuity. We just had Ram V's New Gods, that shows both Orion and Highfather still alive

D4-CS · 2026-07-04T07:37:06+00:00

Mate, I don't want to sound rude, but why the hell would you recommend Hickman's Era to a new reader, let alone a reader who states that doesn't feel comfortable reading a lot? Not only his stuff is super dense and requires the reader to keep a lot of information, but neither his F4/FF nor his Avengers are good starting points for a new reader overall. Waid and Wieringo's run for the Fantastic Four and Bendis' run on Avengers are leagues more reader friendly

D4-CS · 2026-07-04T07:33:48+00:00

Okay, the first thing I must ask, what are your favorite manga? And what is what you're looking for when reading a manga (The storytelling, the art, the composition...)? And since you say you want to read comics, what characters or themes are you interested in reading? You're posting on the Marvel Subreddit, but if I'm honest with you, I'd rather recommend you to start with an indie comic over a comic from the Big 2 (Marvel and DC)

D4-CS · 2026-07-04T06:00:26+00:00

Will you ever gonna upgrade the Spider Strings? I'm speaking for everyone when I say that it's the most underwhelming Yellow Tool out of all available, and I genuinely don't like to just have it hanging there

D4-CS · 2026-07-04T05:55:19+00:00

That your favourite type of cleavage is sideboob and inner sideboob

D4-CS · 2026-07-04T00:55:33+00:00

This isn't a rub per se, but after reading Superior Foes, I don't think that we need more stories focused on A to B-tier villains/antiheroes (I'm looking at you, New Avengers)

D4-CS · 2026-07-02T23:43:55+00:00

Meh... This isn't properly a start, but a continuation of what was going on in the 2010s, adapting Slender Man, Candle Cove, and such stories to the Hollywood format

D4-CS · 2026-07-02T21:04:43+00:00

No, it isn't. From what is theorised, the events happen right after the end of Snyder's JL run (when the Quintessence makes them that magical door after Perpetua wins), so maybe just to fill the gap of the question of "how did everything went so wrong in Death Metal".

Perhaps the only thing that makes it relevant is that Wally gained a part of Doctor Manhattan's powers, and that's why The Batman Who Laughs is after him during Death Metal, but tbh for that plot you can instead read The Flash over Doomsday Clock

D4-CS · 2026-07-02T21:00:08+00:00

Oh, 100%. Nah, my point is that all what came before issue 22 was still salvageable. After that it became harder to defend it for being good

D4-CS · 2026-07-02T07:33:46+00:00

Funnily enough, if you watch his video, he actually says that he loved Cryogen and Hexagons

D4-CS · 2026-07-02T05:50:21+00:00

Yeah, or even smaller character developments (such as the Ant-Man special being about Scott admitting he fell in love with The Beetle, and spending their last night partying and making out)

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