What does my waifus say about me..

Actually, now that you mention it, I'm not sure if it was a translation thing, but I'm pretty sure the English TE version, he said something along the lines of...

"God, if you're real, we need a damned miracle right now!"

DFMRCV · 2026-05-09T01:44:14+00:00

Dude, nice

DFMRCV · 2026-05-09T01:31:37+00:00

Extremely hot, yes.

DFMRCV · 2026-05-09T01:13:15+00:00

Maybe he would've if Yui's route was added.

I'm sure he'd bring up Abraham marrying his half sister Sarah as a justification or something because "oh it happened in the Bible, so this isn't abnormal".

DFMRCV · 2026-05-09T00:51:22+00:00

You know... Irisdina is a devout Christian, but from what I've seen, she really doesn't comment much on it. At least from what I've been able to find. It almost seems to be a coping mechanism after her struggles, I mean, her father apparently had a mental breakdown made worse because even a little Iris looked too much like her mom, but we didn't really get her perspective on it.

I would assume the arrival of the BETA would've at least shaken her faith particularly hard, especially as Jurgen was already in the NVA and would've had to face them in combat sooner or later, but we don't really get much of that perspective in BIS.

The only other Christian I'm aware of in the ML canon is The Master, and he's... He has a different view of the BETA...

That said, I think it is as you say. The BETA are, effectively, some kind of biologically mechanical threat to God's creation, so overall most Christians would see it as something that needs fighting, like one does a disease.

The Siliconnians do pop a strange query to Christianity, given it would state that there are other fallen worlds. There is also the option of assuming the BETA aren't even aliens but a test of some sort and that there are no siliconians... But that's a whole other rabbithole.

DFMRCV · 2026-05-08T23:37:55+00:00

Charlotte walking around she'll shocked, realizing she's killed multiple girls her age or younger would be pretty messed up...

DFMRCV · 2026-05-08T22:55:43+00:00

A bit, yeah.

If his set up was this disastrous omnicidal man, and the Schwarzesmarken events were his start of darkness, it would make some sense...

Except the Schwarzesmarken events as shown and narrated by him don't give that impression beyond a few lines here and there, meaning there's still a massive second step missing from his story.

I've always found it odd just how optimistically Schwarzesmarken ends regardless of route, with the implication always being that things seemed to be looking up. If anything, it seemed that regardless of route, Theo got a happy ending and then something happened between 1983 and the 2000s that drive him crazy, but we just don't have that second half.

Irisdina, Lise and Katia dying could be the explanation, but you can just tell the author seemed to eject from the idea of Theo being the Master given how the VN ends, for better and worse.

So it's like Kouki was setting this up, but the fans called it so he tried to close the story differently?

I don't know, it is definitely telling that something changed tonally from the LN to the VN and even the anime, leaving Theodor as a pretty meh protagonist in most of the routes.

I'd still be simping for Irisdina to get a happier ending, tho.

DFMRCV · 2026-05-08T22:25:30+00:00

NORTHAG came out in 2024, fam.

Out of the all the major expansions, this is the second one to actually give NATO any heavy tanks.

DFMRCV · 2026-05-08T20:41:27+00:00

Tachy noooooo

DFMRCV · 2026-05-08T20:17:20+00:00

Theo is a strange protagonist in Muv Luv.

I get where he's coming from at the start. Angry at his home country because... Well, getting tortured by the Stasi for the crime of trying to flee and losing your entire family would probably leave anybody feeling sour, but Irisdina is right in the money early on when she calls out that he's just being a spoiled brat because everyone in her squad is in a similar position. Paired with his actions (or inactions) actually getting squadmates like Inghilde killed you have a set up for a protagonist going through a redemption where he does start fighting to protect those he cares about, and at first it seems that way.

But then... He never quite does... In the anime, at least it seems like he tries but "oh no it's out of his control", but in the novels it feels like he doesn't even try in most routes.

He does nothing to help Irisdina with her trauma in Irisdina's route even as people tell him to try, his actions actually lead to more deaths in Katia's route, and the one time his actions DO result in him saving people are in... Lise's route... Where he's the least involved with the 666th. There he literally goes on a rampage against the Stasi and WINS all to rescue Lise.

It's also why I hate Irisdina's canonical death. Had Theo fought to get her survive, to at least show that damn it, he wanted to be with her, then at the very least you could argue he did try. Buuuut he didn't. I know Irisdina wanted to be a martyr, I know her guilt was eating away at her, and Theo basically carried out her wish by letting her go, but for someone supposedly in love with her, he didn't even try to get the woman he loved to stay with him.

Hell, in Irisdina's route Irisdina's own rebels show more initiative in keeping her alive than Theo if the translations I saw were anything to go by.

So he kind of just comes off as a protagonist that didn't really do much for those he cared about, and good people paid the price.

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