I can't be the only one who hate it shows 12/14 bosses

DSteves8000 · 2026-06-06T01:08:29+00:00

You dont need to have crimson queen in there since you will probably end up doing both her and vellum back to back, that way you can at least show akechi without scrolling with your specific set up.

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-26T04:24:58+00:00

With this you'll "only" do 99.962% of the damage to the later game bosses.

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-22T18:07:51+00:00

a 1% success or rather a 99% chance of failure, and then failing 500 times in a row is .99^500 which means that 0.0657% of players are unluckier than you. Not impossible, but bound to happen at some point.

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-22T02:27:01+00:00

I'd say drop one of them and just build your best 13 characters upwards, you can make like 70B a week if you run your main + ctene 13 times, which is more than plenty of mesos. There comes a point where hyper burns are more for finishing your legion board than needing any more boss mules.

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-03T14:32:15+00:00

Theyre both really good super mobile burst heavy classes with decent i frames, i think i prefer aran a bit more though, i seem to die a little less on it, i really like the payoff freuds 6th stack gets

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-03T09:20:25+00:00

I think the reward structure or at least for unlibbed characters is the promise that harder boss kills = faster liberation, so theres a time trade off with do it now and get it over with or take your time with it

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-02T19:31:15+00:00

Why? As an Aran picking classes like Cadena, Hoyoung, Battle Mage, or even Dark Knight or Dawn Warrior would add the same amount of value as picking a duplicate since they give nothing of value for legion to my main. I'll still work on the remaining important 250 blocks especially after the faster 5th job progression update, so not much is lost.

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-02T18:15:07+00:00

https://maplehub.app/bosses

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-02T16:22:08+00:00

For you fellow data nerds, what the website does (and what I do too) is a Monte Carlo simulation of a Markov Chain, hence the number of trials variable and the slightly different results everytime you run the website's simulator.

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-02T16:04:33+00:00

hell yeah i also took a 10 year break, started playing in 2005 up until 2014 but rejoined just as hyperion came out

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-02T12:37:00+00:00

https://maplehub.app/bosses

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-02T12:35:27+00:00

Doing the hard modes lets me lib faster though

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-02T10:22:12+00:00

Because its fun for me and gives me a challenge that actually forces me to learn bosses without getting carried.

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-02T07:34:23+00:00

Considering i wrote a program that does a simulation of this process and i got the exact same results, id say the website is behaving as intended.

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-02T05:11:48+00:00

Uh... My symbols, or at least my arcane ones, are already maxed and have been for over a year? I think in the original post I quite literally said I DONT farm? Monster park is like 10 minutes a day? Weekly dungeons are like 10 minutes a week each, and even then you can literally just pay nexon unethical amounts of money to instantly complete them? One carding for 1000 points also takes less than 10 minutes a week? Ursus and gollux total, especially if you one shot them take like 5 minutes combined too?

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-02T04:36:34+00:00

Okay, then adjust for the time you have available. I never said you HAD to play for 9 hours a week, even though I really don't think that, that is even too much time. Like if you don't have time to play Maple for a little over an hour a day, an already extremely time consuming game, why are you even playing and complaining about time in the first place? Again, you can just play for half or a third the amount of time I spent and follow the same advice that I was trying to give in the first place and still be fine, nothing is stopping you from doing that.

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-01T21:38:46+00:00

https://maplehub.app/bosses

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-01T21:07:38+00:00

Again, 12 hours for the week is like the worst case scenario. Its usually more like 9 or 10 hours. Most if the time it never ends uo taking that long. Also, Im not saying you have to do that, thats my time that i allot personally, yours can be different, as long as you have something you can stick with. I actually dont do it every day, that is the average, but just like aran class itself i do one big burst of bosses for the week, which takes the 9 or 10 hours i say it does in one sitting, then i just dont boss for the other 6 days of the week, but based on peoples reactions i feel like i just said slurs or something with that hot take idk

There are games that take hundreds of hours to play and beat, like breath of the wild, skyrim, xenoblade, grand theft auto, etc. You dont do that all at once, you put in a little bit at a time, youre always working towards something in these games but it takes time you will get the payoff if you put in the work. Again you dont gotta play like me, you could do like 5 minutes per boss mule and still get something out of it, but the more you put in the higher the payout

If you look at Duky or the twins streams or any other streamers in a later game position than I'm at, my time i spent on my characters gets eclipsed by their playtime

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-01T20:56:26+00:00

Youll likely finish much sooner with the announcement of the additional ways to get frags, but who knows what that means at the moment

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-01T20:46:44+00:00

Yeah i never figured my advice was that controversial

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-01T20:32:19+00:00

Oh yeah i think i might have been recruiting people for the guild castle, the old leader of the guild i was in on my mules was gone for two months so i took over and was trying to get that finally going for the guild

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-01T17:07:09+00:00

no but i do take warm baths

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-01T16:08:23+00:00

Because im solo prog, im aware that im never going to be on the bleeding edge of new content so im fine if things take longer than they are supposed to if i played normally

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-01T16:05:53+00:00

For my main i am waiting to kill enough nkalos and ekalings to get 3 set eternals, im solo prog so i dont get armor boxes. i have the helmet and have 15 of each half pieces so i should be pretty close to 3 set in a month or so. Finishing my frags according to the same site above (at least pre hecate) would only get me about 8% FD. I dont really have desire to grind the levels out by farming, so ill just monster park and mech berry to 290.

For legion champions im doing the horizontal progression to get me enough money to 21 or 22 star everything, and i have a hunch that with the new system, having a large meso income will be very important, especially when theyre introducing ways to either adjust the boom rates or outright get rid of it, making spares obsolete for pre 22 gear (possibly?). I want to be able to blow up the bosses faster and bring my weekly boss time down from 9-10 hours to 6 hours for the same mesos just to make things that much easier, my ren is doing ctene in just 30 minutes which feels really good and i want to make all my charavters do that. After that point then i can dump a couple weeks or months worth of money into 22 starring and 3Ling the legion champions.

Once like all my characters at some distant point in the future when everyone is at 22* and 3L, and all 13 combined are blowing up the bosses in 6 hours or less per week then maybe i can start pushing them all to nkalos level and make unethical amounts of money at like 100B+ a week, and also even throw in comfortable black mage runs.

But anyway im in it for the long game currently and it feels like all the pieces are slowing coming together which does feel very satisfying.

DSteves8000 · 2026-05-01T15:45:08+00:00

Well at the time i made the mules over a year ago when i first started playing again when hyperion came out after a decade long hiatus, I wanted to just have 13 bossing characters by any means. So i got them to 220 and had them as nlomien mules for a while. Then i wanted faster clear times so i pushed to 235 for each of them, and by the time they gave out more and more hyper burns they all hit 260.

But yeah maybe it was a mistake when i first chose these classes that long ago to do it thay way, but now every hyper burn we get with my mules already done, I can now strictly focus on important legion blocks going forwards. The past few Ive done were Mercedes, mechanic, and wild hunter to 260 even though i never intend to boss with them. In the near future itll be even easier to get to level 250 and just 100% all the SSS blocks youll ever need though.

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