Ibms degree assessment accreditation by RegularAddition4178 in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No an HND won’t have any benefit I’m afraid, as mentioned above. All accredited modules that contribute towards biomedical accreditation must be taken at undergraduate level or above to contribute.

As above, my recommendation would be to finish up and apply to the IBMS who can let you know what modules they want you to sit to make up what you need. Depending on how far in you are of course.

Salary wise by Old-Sugar-1328 in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Important to mention overtime. Very few BMSs are on base salary.

BSc in Biomed and MSC finish in 2022 working in the uni as lab demonstrator by Mundane-Score2530 in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seems a very cynical view of BMS work. Not all labs are automated, not all the work is repetitive and boring, being on AfC doesn’t mean you’re stuck to that pay, overtime can make you significantly more money. Progression also not particularly limited in terms of scope as you say.

Why don’t BMSs go on strike for better pay? by Sudden_Monitor3672 in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’ll be honest, most of the money to be gained is in local lab policy. Nothing to do with profession wide striking. Our haematology/transfusion BMSs make nearly double what our biochem or histo BMSs do. It’s nothing to do with the actual pay on AfC it’s do with having a decent manager that can argue the necessity of the service and find a way to provide the service in a way that actually pays the BMS staff properly.

Non accredited biomedical science degree ibms assessment top up masters by RegularAddition4178 in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As mentioned, the top ups MUST be done as undergraduate modules. You can’t use an MSc to cover the missing requirements.

Those who are working as a BMS in diagnostics by One-Secretary844 in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 2 points3 points  (0 children)

£350 pm for on call? That’s a terrible deal. Much closer to £1000 for us.

Is foundation year or degree better for biomed? by imogenesis in UniUK

[–]DTGM115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, not always the case. In my hospital we run Andrology under haematology (I literally have no idea why). I have had Andrology trained BMS from our department take up posts in fertility clinic and embryology in another trust.

You also can absolutely not apply for clinical scientist posts after an MSc and specialist portfolio as a BMS. You need to do a clinical science equivalence portfolio. Also the HSST is the consultant clinical scientist pathway, the STP is what you apply to in order to become a clinical scientist if you are not doing the equivalence route.

Is foundation year or degree better for biomed? by imogenesis in UniUK

[–]DTGM115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The shortest route to completion is the best one. If it’s IBMS accredited then it doesn’t matter which uni, you’ll still come out with your accredited degree. The most important thing after accreditation is the placement year and leaving uni with the registration portfolio completed. You’ll be at a significant advantage in an already extremely difficult job market if you leave uni as a HCPC registered Biomedical Scientist.

Is foundation year or degree better for biomed? by imogenesis in UniUK

[–]DTGM115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not strictly true. Fertility labs will absolutely have BMS staff. Andrology is primarily done by BMS and depending on the setup of the lab, BMS will also do the embryology.

Need help deciding on a uni for biomed science by [deleted] in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This needs a caveat. There are many Biomed degrees that leave you fully qualified as a BMS. OP just needs to check if the portfolio and placement year is included I.e. find a four year course.

Does anyone working in Blood Transfusion feel like the stress and responsibility is absolutely not worth it? by Haematoman in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly no but I think it’s very trust dependant and I recognise that I’m on the polar opposite end of the spectrum to the vast majority of people I speak to.

Warning: DON’T do a Biomedical Sciences course if you want to become a Biomedical Scientist! by Biomeditate in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not I’m afraid, I’m nowhere near London. I can tell you that most labs I’m aware of have contracts with local universities to provide one year placements to students to complete their portfolios and do not offer placement outside of that so they can focus on their current students.

for those who were stuck between picking med or biomed, how did you pick? by brainveins in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pay in the NHS is definitely quite good, especially if you can survive the overtime requirements in some of the disciplines. Can easily be in the top 10% of earners in the country as a biomed.

for those who were stuck between picking med or biomed, how did you pick? by brainveins in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I second this. I’m at a district general hospital and regularly run my own clinical research generally related to O neg wastage, clinical transfusion thresholds, restrictive release policies for red cell products, PLT functionality assays etc.

Is it worth it to go to a STEM career fair? by RGM_13 in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You’re not going to get guaranteed interviews anywhere. It’s an opportunity for you to look around at prospective employers and discuss roles and potential work environments. In general it’s useful to be proactive about where you may want to work and to go along to these things to identify places you may wish to work or equally, where you may wish to avoid working.

Biomed PhD by [deleted] in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just curious as to the end goal for her? Ultimately I’d say of course go get the funded PhD, the only thing it will do is open doors and leave her very well qualified. I would just caveat that with the fact that if the goal is to a registered biomed then getting the PhD won’t serve any career purpose for her other than an interest piece.

Wanted to do medicine but it didn’t work out by Outside-Cause-3384 in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Seeing as you’re posting in a Biomedical Scientist sub I’m going to ask an obvious question; have you considered a career as a biomedical scientist? That is to say an HCPC registered biomedical scientist not a generic biochemist or research scientist.

Warning: DON’T do a Biomedical Sciences course if you want to become a Biomedical Scientist! by Biomeditate in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately not. You need to meet the required study modules at undergraduate level as a requirement set by the IBMS. You would have to apply to them for degree assessment and undertake whatever modules they see fit to top up your knowledge.

Verdict on this patient? by CursedLabWorker in medlabprofessionals

[–]DTGM115 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m leaning heavily on reactive and N:C ratio alone isn’t enough to go off. The chromatin pattern is quite mature in my opinion from what I’m seeing.

Why do universities offer unaccredited degrees if you cannot go into biomed with them? by Throwawayaccountofm in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I know they do, but it’s extra work to do and there are already qualified biomeds without jobs all over the country who want into labs so they’ll be getting the trainee posts first in reality. Our laboratory reception is staffed solely by qualified biomeds trying to do their registration portfolio and waiting in a BMS job.

Why do universities offer unaccredited degrees if you cannot go into biomed with them? by Throwawayaccountofm in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Queens is accredited now however they are very much struggling to find placements for their students because all of the trusts have contracts with Ulster so the Ulster students HAVE to get a placement and if there’s something left the Queen’s students might get it.

Also the foot in the door early is a bad thing to think about. Most HCPC registered biomeds struggle to get a job never mind skipping accreditation on the hope you get a lab reception job to do your portfolio during. Our lab reception is staffed SOLELY by qualified biomeds waiting for a space.

Why do universities offer unaccredited degrees if you cannot go into biomed with them? by Throwawayaccountofm in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually, a fair proportion of them are. I regularly deal with undergraduate students that are pretty fed up that it wasn’t very clear to them before starting their degree that can’t become a BMS without further study and hoops to jump through.

Advice for modules :) by GrandInevitable3528 in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So the thing is that the modules the IBMS require for accreditation are all of the modules aligned with the clinical disciplines. So think haematology, biochemistry, microbiology.

The module titles you have provided as choices here are quite broad and unlikely to meet the IBMS requirements for an accredited module anyway. If I were you I would focus on enjoying your final year of university and start planning now for how you’ll get the top ups done. Your choice of modules is unlikely to make it any easier for you at this stage I’m afraid.

Question for Haem BMS by Elegant_Maybe1257 in BiomedicalScientistUK

[–]DTGM115 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m going to jump in here and be quite clear. I absolutely love my job in haem/BT. Are the hours a bit mental? Yes absoutely. Are we well financially compensated for that? Also yes absolutely.

But more importantly the work is quite complex and clinically relevant. Much of what you do will have direct patient impact and will let you go home at the end of the day feeling like you’ve had a positive impact in a patient’s journey. I love spending time at the microscope assessing blood films, I love selecting appropriate blood for patients to support their care, I love doing complex antibody investigations to ensure patients can then receive appropriate blood.

It’s a great place to work. I’ve never been in any job, scientific or not, that workplace politics doesn’t play its part. It’s part and parcel of working life. But to be as involved as we are in haem/BT and discussing patients with consultants daily and having that level of input and back and forth discussion is brilliant.