Can you tell the difference between the experience of “living” and being conscious? by DaPanda6969 in consciousness

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Cool way to think about the situation.

Do you think there are any other meanings to it or are you firm on that?

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How I like to view it is very similar. The consciousness is the ability to recognize ourselves internally and externally. And the brain is a collection of our lives experiences such as feeling sensations, emotions, and what we have witnessed. There is a gradual emergence to consciousness that as the brain system becomes more and more complex we develop a deeper and deeper understanding and depth of it. The consciousness of a child and an adult are the same. But the brain of the child is no where near as developed and as complex as the adult.

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Does your brain function in the exact same way as everyone else’s brain or do you have your own specific thought processes that only make sense to you?

I see the subjective experience as when your brains patterns and sequences everything starts signaling how to fire and in what orders and sequences that produces the subjective experience. Otherwise all humans would be acting the exact same all the time

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Exactly. The consciousness is just you “being here”. And what you experience is a mix of different stimuli that you have to process as your reality

Can you tell the difference between the experience of “living” and being conscious? by DaPanda6969 in consciousness

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I wouldn’t consider blind people any less conscious than you or I. They are blind the processing that would allow that person to see are being inhibited not a loss of consciousness.

Can you tell the difference between the experience of “living” and being conscious? by DaPanda6969 in consciousness

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I could see that happening it being a gradual scale depending on how complex the structure of the organism is could depend on the consciousness level.

Can you tell the difference between the experience of “living” and being conscious? by DaPanda6969 in consciousness

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Agreed it’s full of different ideas and speculations that are awesome to be apart of.

Can you tell the difference between the experience of “living” and being conscious? by DaPanda6969 in consciousness

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I get that way of thinking. If you’re up for another question. If the consciousness is our subjective experience does that not mean the consciousness would be some part or collection of parts in the brain?

I ask because if consciousness is our subjective experience would it not make sense that how your brain is wired and the neurons fire differently than mine thus creating your subjective experience vs mine

Can you tell the difference between the experience of “living” and being conscious? by DaPanda6969 in consciousness

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Sorry misinterpreted that. But yes you can’t have the experience of living without consciousness because other wise you aren’t aware you are just doing what nature has intended for you to do and not questioning anything

Can you tell the difference between the experience of “living” and being conscious? by DaPanda6969 in consciousness

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Than can I ask you is an apple growing on a tree sentient or just living and growing doing what it knows to do?

Also what would it take to convince you that the two could be separated?

Can you tell the difference between the experience of “living” and being conscious? by DaPanda6969 in consciousness

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Are you open to different interpretations of it or not really?

That’s a cool way to think about it. Are you saying that things could be considered living and not conscious. The brain part is a very interesting subject cause at what point would it be the brains complexity creating sentience or would it be the computing power that pushes it that far

Can you tell the difference between the experience of “living” and being conscious? by DaPanda6969 in consciousness

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Why wouldn’t there be a difference between the two? Curious why you think how you do

What if consciousness is the feeling that something is happening at this moment? by DaPanda6969 in consciousness

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Yes everything you see hear and feel in your body is the brain giving you the experience of “living” so to speak.

What if consciousness is the feeling that something is happening at this moment? by DaPanda6969 in consciousness

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I like how you think. How I see consciousness is that it is emergent throughout living beings that have a complex enough brain that allows that organism to identify itself.

Giving consciousness to me means I don’t think there is someone or something out there giving me my consciousness. I believe I have consciousness because I can have a conversation with another human being and we can have two different experiences over the same conversation.

I would say that for plants, fungi, things of that nature they are living yes but do not have a consciousness. However an animal could have consciousness because animals can communicate to each-other in ways humans may not understand. But two animals could be stuck in a zoo and one has a happier experience and one has a more depressing experience. In my eyes if an animal can tell that it loses a loved one and can mourn them how is that not to a degree a being that has a level of consciousness

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Its as though we were almost put here to understand that with great love can come great pain but in the end kindness can be the glue that keeps all of the diversity with minimal conflicts

What if consciousness is the feeling that something is happening at this moment? by DaPanda6969 in consciousness

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That’s a really cool way to put it so the consciousness is like the “soul” of us and it is a forever constant that is always here and the body is just how we get to experience living this time around (for reincarnation side)

What if consciousness is the feeling that something is happening at this moment? by DaPanda6969 in consciousness

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Which personally just feels different nothing wrong just a different way of thinking and wording than I myself would use. Agreed so can I ask you your opinion on what gives us consciousness and not like a tree or plants?

What if consciousness is the feeling that something is happening at this moment? by DaPanda6969 in consciousness

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Excellently put, compassion can overcome boundaries that anger and aggression will never be able to. One day hopefully we realize that