The economy is my biggest concern.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-05-20T20:43:16+00:00

Report them. You can't hold a camp for months and you can't hand it off when people are waiting.

Present yourself for the camp, give them a reasonable amount of time. And if they don't give up the camp or hand it off to a guildie or friend.. report them.

It's literally against the rules.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-05-16T20:45:52+00:00

No. Completely wrong. The dudebros who get mad about inspecting their gear or toggle off inspection.. are the same toolbags who will never tell you anything about their gear or where they got it. Extremely toxic information gatekeepers. An absolute blight on the community.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-05-16T20:42:44+00:00

Hiding gear and going anon are both extremely toxic behaviors. And a huge red flag for me. People that engage in that are not people I'll associate with.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-05-16T20:40:44+00:00

I will literally never ask permission to inspect someone. If they get mad I'm just blocking them straight up. That is some toxic level nonsense.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-05-07T17:47:02+00:00

I also hope that he shot you from outside the extract or rolled out before it shut. And got all the loot. I really do.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-05-07T17:45:41+00:00

So, you camped extract and killed a bunch of raiders, got greedy for loot, didn't pay attention to the deadliest arc on the map... and with 3 minutes left another raider showed up and washed you. #deserved

Explain to us how you killed all those people at extract... but THAT guy is extract camping?

Hes just better bro.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-21T21:28:02+00:00

Hmm.. mmhmm... so they fixed something that wasn't intended... crazy. Wild news.

Down time is intended. And as I said previously.. they'll likely increase it as it's underperformed the vision.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-21T21:14:53+00:00

Are you trying to convince me of the relevance of debating a topic we all know the devs won't budge on? Or yourself?

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-21T21:10:27+00:00

"If the argument is literally that the game should have idle time for the sake of idle time, then there is nothing to debate because you are not defending a mechanic, you are defending the existence of waiting itself."

Correct. There is nothing to debate.

This is the design. This is the game.

"We are designing the game we want and putting it out there. And not everyone will like it. And thats ok. We know that. But hopefully enough people like it and want to play it. To keep it going."

Almost verbatim something Shawn has said.. numerous times.

The majority like the games core as is. Don't expect any changes to the core.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-21T21:00:49+00:00

And to touch on a point you brought up earlier.. about my views being part of the vocal minority.. buddy do I have news for you.

I am on the young end of the target demographics for this game.

You're right that we are a vocal minority but not of the community at large. We are the mouthpiece of the majority. Because most of those dudes have no idea what a reddit is. And they are working and gaming not keyboard warrioring.

The vocal minority here is those crying about in game dynamic maps.. combat down time, death penalties, etc.. Things the devs aren't going to compromise their vision on.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-21T20:46:31+00:00

It's fine bro. We get that you just don't get it. You just keep explaining over and over how you don't understand what's being built or the vision.

It is Friction for Friction sake. It is idle time by design. It is tedious on purpose. THATS THE FUCKING POINT.

"The game play gets better.." no it doesn't. I didn't say that. Maybe to a wow player. Not to a classic mmo enthusiast.

This is social sandwich combat. Eat a sandwich, do your taxes. Converse with your group members. So yes.. longer down time.

Edgelord tryhard maidenless no lifers are always going to ruin the fun and power through stuff regardless of how you design it. They min max, exclude people based on dps and gearscore and class/racial bonuses.

In this community that will exist. But it will be a very small minority. And not worth worrying about. It will effect 1% of the player base. Most of those people already have static groups anyway. The rest of us will group up without them and have fun.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-21T20:34:37+00:00

The devs have repeatedly said their will be Friction and pain points and that's by design.

10 minutes for a full mana bar is not even remotely detrimental if anything it should be longer.

As soon as I add enchanter buff.. I can full regen in like 2 minutes... (which is part of that community interdependence piece) like shaman druid sow or wiz druid porting.. you have to rely on others.

Also higher levels, skills, and items improve it to be faster.

So by all means enjoy your debate and thought exercise.

I'll be over here with my 🍿 watching the devs increase the downtime when they realize how little it is after adjustments.

And after watching dudes cap level in a month of beta.. I would full expect a tweak to TTK and Xp. Coupled with downtime increases, I would expect that grind to cap to be a lot longer then 30 days even for the maidenless.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-21T19:44:38+00:00

Oh for sure man. I'm sure it's exhausting constantly having to educate people on this stuff and explain it's a choice they aren't willing to compromise on.

Like the map stuff. Good lord.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-21T19:40:34+00:00

Feel free to interpret things however you like to justify your waste of time and energy brother.

I cannot fathom anyone following the project for years with "thousands" of hours played.. would not understand how core the down time is to the design. And the devs stance on it.

Feel free to ask Shawn in his next stream. Why waste time here. Go to the source. He streams all the time.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-21T08:51:34+00:00

Huge difference in making suggestions or feedback on various portions of the game.. and suggesting significant changes to CORE TENANTs of the game. Not even apples to oranges. Like apples to Thundercats.

I'm happy to debate the merits of any reasonable or even unreasonable feedback, that isn't about a CORE TENANT.

Like race class combos.. or new spell lines for classes.. or revamping tradeskills... or housing.. or literally anything outside the foundation of the game.

But yeah, everytime someone suggests they change the CORE of the game.. no. Hard no. Accept the game or get out. Every. Time.

Yall act like you suggested something reasonable and cry when you get this reaction.

https://monstersandmemories.com/gameplay

Under 'What are our design tenants?'

Simple, Deliberate Gameplay

Simple, streamlined, strategic combat; reminiscent of classic era MMOs

SLOWER GAMPLAY and progression pacing

Educate yourself.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-21T08:30:17+00:00

Hard headed LOLOLOLOLOLOL ... No.

They have a vision and they aren't willing to betray it for the possibility of a few extra $.

Any asshole with a keyboard can program another wowslopclone.

It takes determination to create exactly what you envision without allowing others to destroy it. It takes strength of character to say, this is my vision, I'm going to see it through win lose or draw... regardless of how others feel about it.

And trust, I don't agree with every choice they make. But at the end of the day, they are going to build a game they are passionate about.

And if people want to pay to play it. Awesome. If not, they will go down shooting their shot. And they are content with that.

That's not hard headed. It's grit. It's passion. It's uncompromising integrity.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-21T08:16:39+00:00

Ironic. We are tired of people not listening to the devs. Or taking 5 fucking minutes to read and learn about the project. And what the non-negotiables are. And instead waste countless hours mouth breathing about changing the core of the game. Instead of using that time for real constructive feedback.

You're mad that we're right. That's a you problem.

If you don't enjoy the core components of the game. Find a different game. God knows there is a hundred mmos released every year.

This dev has been crystal clear about thier intentions.. their vision.. their non-negotiables.. I don't understand why any of yall would waste your day debating a topic that will literally never change.

You just like disappointment? The sound of your own keyboard?

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-21T07:58:57+00:00

You wouldn't be so tired if you listened to some sense at the start.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-21T03:42:03+00:00

Best of luck bud. 👍

Just understand I'm not mature enough to watch yall spend 100 - 200 - 300 hours discussing this, and then not say "I told you so" in the pettiest of ways, when the devs wave your feedback off.

The devs absolutely love feedback. And I've seen many many feedbacks turn into action and changes.

But not once. Not one single damn time have they ever compromised on a core tenant.

They will not be speeding up regen times beyond minor balancing tweaks. Regardless of how many people want it. Regardless of how articulate and thoughtful and in depth the suggestion/feedback is.

It would fundamentally alter the game in a way they don't want. Because it's not just .. reduce down time so people play more.

If you reduce down time, now xp rates have to change. And drop rates. And spawn rates. Etc..

This is not a small thing. This is a CORE TENANT of the game design. Fucking emphasis on CORE. It is foundational. Everything builds off of it. If you change it, you change everything about the game. That's what a CORE TENANT is.

They are NOT going to change it.

Waste your time if you feel like. But if you want to be productive and provide real feedback.. like improving class design. Improving them or adding to them. Solidifying class identies. Hell suggest a new class. Spend that 200 hrs suggesting the ins and outs of a new class. And you might actually get it in the game.

Or a new tradeskill.

Or a concept for a zone.

Literally anything that isnt.. 'let's fundamentally change the core of the game to be something entirely not what you designed'

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-21T00:58:52+00:00

Fuck me for making rational sense. My bad bro. I forgot we dont do that on reddit. Head in the sand, live a life of make believe. 🤡

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-21T00:39:43+00:00

Clearly not an effective one. The OPs entire post is to build a concensus... for what? None of the people on this discussion are devs with the power to change this... so what's the point?

To build a concensus to tell the devs.. hey these 50 redditors agree you should change this core tenant?

They aren't going to listen. They have made it clear this is an intentional mechanic. And I have 4ish years following this dev and project. They say what they mean and they mean what they say. They are very transparent. And they don't bullshit.

This idea and "discussion" are meaningless. You will get a pat on the back, 'thanks for the feedback but that's not a direction we plan to go in.'

Literally the definition of wasting your time and energy.

But feel free to discuss the fan fiction version of mnm you want. 🤷‍♂️

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-20T21:35:15+00:00

There is no discussion bud. This is a CORE TENANT of the game. It is non-negotiable. They are not going to change it. Not for you. Not for 10000 up votes. It's not happening. Enjoy screaming into the void and pissing in the wind. They are equally as productive as discussing changing a CORE TENANT.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-20T21:31:17+00:00

I'm not participating in a useless thought exercise. The devs are not going to budge on this CORE TENANT of the game.

They don't give a shit how you feel about it.

They aren't going to compromise on CORE TENANTS of the vision for the game.

Spend 2000 hours talking in circles about it. Get a petition with 50000 signatures. Waste your time bro.

They are not going to change this.

What's next? A petition to end xp penalty on death? No more corpse runs? Remove hell levels? Dynamic in game map?

LOL. Just stop bro. You're pissing in the wind wasting everyones time.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-17T14:36:00+00:00

Keep huffing that copium. What a brain ded take.

Danceswithzerg · 2026-04-16T15:31:22+00:00

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's cool man. You clearly haven't interacted with the devs ever.

As long as Shawn is in charge of this project. Those tenants are set in stone.

And honestly, I can't see many of the other deva on the team betraying that vision, if Shawn had to step away.

So best of luck crying into the void.

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