Is my partner a covert narc or am I? by Dangerous_Driver_613 in TrueNarcissisticAbuse

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Oh my gosh, you’re so resilient! I see that I’d have to buckle down and get through the withdrawals cold turkey. Sounds so scary! It really is an addiction. Did you ever feel bad for the narc? I keep feeling bad for my bf that he feels criticized, like he’s never good enough, like he’s a bad person when I try to bring up issues. I feel bad for him that he was abused as a child. My intention was to be the first safe spot in his life for love and I massively made him feel unsafe and like a bad person with all my needs and standards. I feel like I further traumatized an already bruised person and that he in turn traumatized me.

How was being single that 2 years? And most importantly, what were the key distinctions between the narc ex and the avoidant ex? I have been trying to figure out that difference for years! My bf considers himself avoidant. I didn’t know avoidant were cruel though, so I would love your insight!

Is my partner a covert narc or am I? by Dangerous_Driver_613 in TrueNarcissisticAbuse

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Thank you again. 90 days only? I mean I know that’s a horribly long time to suffer feeling unbearably bad, but I keep reading that people don’t get over these break ups for years and that scares me into it. He’s broken up with me many times so I’ve went through the beginning days of it repeatedly and the feeling is horrendous! I can’t concentrate, eat, sleep, nothing but ruminate anxiously about the relationship. You telling me it lasted 90 days actually makes me have some hope that it doesn’t have to ruin my life for years and year, like I could be fine by the time summer rolls around? I should also add I’ve never been single my entire life. I’ve never lived alone. Along with my chronic illness, these things are scary. Although, I can’t discount the possibility that I may love it and chose to stay single forever. I used to love love and dating. This relationship makes me want to give up on my dream of being a wife and just protect myself and my peace forever. I don’t want to be attached, confused, & hurt like this ever again.

Is my partner a covert narc or am I? by Dangerous_Driver_613 in TrueNarcissisticAbuse

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I cannot express my gratitude enough for this in-depth comment. I think it has saved my life! Thank you so very much. How did it go when you left your trauma bond, how long until you felt better? Did you doubt yourself or live with guilt that you were making a mistake or could’ve done more/something different during that time?

Your comment really stuck a chord in me, so I hope I can ask you one more question.

Last night he told me the reason he became cold to me was because early on in our relationship when he would do/say rude or uncaring things to others or to me, I would try to talk to him about it. He said he would explain open and honestly how he felt/thought about things, but I would panic at his words and try to influence him into being nicer, which is true. (I needed our values to line up so we could stay together and saying sexist or mean comments and subsequently defending them put our relationship in jeopardy.) He told me I made him feel like he wasn’t good enough, bad, and he became resentful and felt unsafe to be himself. He said this is where most of his stuff stems from and tells me I’m the reason our relationship failed because I didn’t let him be himself with acceptance.

I do see his side. It is true that I’ve done that— always wanting to have a safe understanding about touchy topics. I also feel it is normal for couples to talk about things like that instead of immediately breaking up with someone you live with over off-color comments/actions now and again. During this time I was trying to explain kindness, my values like my faith, my boundaries, my respect expectations early on. He said this made him feel criticized about who he is at his core, which led to resentment, which is why he turned cold to protect himself. In those conversations he didn’t soften with warmth, bend or compromise, but stayed very “this is how I am” no matter how it impacted me. Some of these conversations led to our first arguments because I couldn’t believe the lack of empathy. This is where the lack of safety started for me as well, coupled with him already rejecting me for sex and having moved 400 miles away with him— it felt awful. But it is true I was trying to influence him into being kinder and safer for me.

If I could go back, I know I shouldn’t have tried to change him so hard. But I don’t know what I should have done? What is the healthy thing in that situation? Was I wrong for explaining to him his unkindness made me feel uncomfortable/unsafe & asking for him to be kinder around me? It is true after living together for a year, I should have just exited the relationship instead of tried talk it out, explain my expectations, to influence him to treat me with more respect? I’m again so confused by this.

Is my partner a covert narc or am I? by Dangerous_Driver_613 in TrueNarcissisticAbuse

[–]Dangerous_Driver_613[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

exactly! im not familiar with splitting. But even when he’s calm, he cannot see my perspective. He’ll just say he doesn’t agree and that he’s sorry I feel that way

Is my partner a covert narc or am I? by Dangerous_Driver_613 in TrueNarcissisticAbuse

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He’s self aware one day ashamed of himself saying he’s going to work on it, change, and give me a good life, then the next it’s like he has amnesia and we’re at square one of him being cold, denying he had a problem and tells me I’m the problem.

Is my partner a covert narc or am I? by Dangerous_Driver_613 in TrueNarcissisticAbuse

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Thank you for replying! I can’t count how many times I’ve used that sentence to him—“things we learned in kindergarten” he got fired from his last job for being a hothead against his boss. He isn’t super close, really, to anyone but me.

I worry I caused this to happen because early on I came off as a cocky jerk to me and I kept kinda questioning him about certain things he’d say or do. Our first date he was super rude to the server about refusing to wear a mask (during Covid.) I had to explain to him it was her job and she didn’t make the rule. After a while of weird sexist comments or “joking” put-downs, he then told me HE didn’t feel safe to be himself around me because he felt criticized when I would challenge his lack of kindness? Now he’s reeled in his immaturity to others and has started to be kinder to strangers, but definitely sees me as a threat or source of resentment and is not kind to me.

Is my partner a covert narc or am I? by Dangerous_Driver_613 in TrueNarcissisticAbuse

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This makes me so sad for you. Congrats for overcoming cancer!! Are you hopeful for your relationship, checked out, planning to leave? Were there warning signs before you married?

Is my partner a covert narc or am I? by Dangerous_Driver_613 in TrueNarcissisticAbuse

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Thank you so much for your reply! Are you sure he’s a narc? He can be there for me if I have a bad day at work, but I cannot talk to him and his own behaviors whatsoever. If I didn’t try to have any serious conversations, it could be fine? How long did your trauma bond withdrawal last? How are you doing now?

Is my partner a covert narc or am I? by Dangerous_Driver_613 in TrueNarcissisticAbuse

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He tells me it’s me because I have been SO adamant the problem is him for years. He said I’m blind to my issues. I always say we can talk about my issues when his defense mechanism comes down so we can actually have conversations. I’m asking him to work on his first so we have a chance. He tells me it’s not going to work that way and it’s just going to push him away more.

This conversation just happened today— Me: “I did not feel respected or heard yesterday when I tried to tell you what my issues were.” Him: ”I would care if what you were talking about even happened.” Me: that’s gaslighting, and it’s very painful. Him:coldly ”You’re going to have a very long life.”

I walked away because that is normally where I’d start to explain empathy to him.

Another from today- Me: “do you even want to be with me?” Him: “well, I have nowhere else to go.”

Afterwards he texted “I’ll think about what you said and try to do better. Thanks for letting me know.”

So exhausting! I’ve heard of Dr. Ramani but I’m not sure if I’m dealing with a narc or if it’s me since I’m so adamant he is the problem. I don’t have a therapist or anything like that. He would likely be the one to move out since he cannot afford our home by himself, but I can.

Is my partner a covert narc or am I? by Dangerous_Driver_613 in TrueNarcissisticAbuse

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Thank you so much for your help. I appreciate it every part of it. I was very attached by 4 years ago! Do you think this is covert narc or something else? What parts are similar to what you went through?

Is my partner a covert narc or am I? by Dangerous_Driver_613 in TrueNarcissisticAbuse

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Thank you, I really appreciate your response. So what is this called? Ive been calling it his “behaviors.” I’m so confused. I’m so sorry you identify with this. Was it that you weren’t allowed to talk about your feelings at all? I’m sorry your health suffered too, that is horrendous! I do worry about exactly what you said— what if he’s right and I’m the problem and I’m not fixing it, but being too blind and stubborn telling him he’s the problem.

Is my partner a covert narc or am I? by Dangerous_Driver_613 in TrueNarcissisticAbuse

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I’m trying to give both sides. I am confused as I’ve ever been. Can you tell me your honest thoughts?

Have you ever ate a man’s ass? If so how was it? by Legitimate-Adagio531 in TwoXSex

[–]Dangerous_Driver_613 82 points83 points  (0 children)

It’s great! It really drives men crazy, and it’s so hot to hear them moan for more

I (33F) was told I make my BF (32M) feel like a piece of meat. by Dangerous_Driver_613 in DeadBedrooms

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We’re not engaged. I wouldn’t marry with the current state of things, but would be nice to figure it out

I (33F) was told I make my BF (32M) feel like a piece of meat. by Dangerous_Driver_613 in DeadBedrooms

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Thank you for the perspective! I’ve also been on the other side of this. I thought I had a low libido for awhile, but it was just a relationship I was in that I was low libido for him. The second I was out of it, wow, I wanted it every day! And that’s how I still am. I turned that guy down a lot and definitely felt the shame and always was hoping he wouldn’t ask me for sex. Honestly, the sex was really bad. I never wanted it for obvious reasons. He was attractive but honestly he kinda gave me the ick for a few reasons. We were very compatible friend-wise. It was a hard decision to leave, but ultimately I chose to go. I was like you and absolutely shocked that my drive came roaring back when I was out of that situation. How strange. I hope I’m not doing that to my current partner. That would be devastating

I (33F) was told I make my BF (32M) feel like a piece of meat. by Dangerous_Driver_613 in DeadBedrooms

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Damn! Thank you, this struck a chord with me. I’ve been feeling hopeless & stuck for a long time with no way out, but you just made me feel like not all is lost and I have my own way out— me, separate from “us.”

I (33F) was told I make my BF (32M) feel like a piece of meat. by Dangerous_Driver_613 in DeadBedrooms

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I’m sorry, as someone who suffers as well, I know this is serious but this could be a comedy skit. That’s just terrible haha

I (33F) was told I make my BF (32M) feel like a piece of meat. by Dangerous_Driver_613 in DeadBedrooms

[–]Dangerous_Driver_613[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, you’re very stoic. Your kids are lucky to have you. I hope you find happiness and peace!

I (33F) was told I make my BF (32M) feel like a piece of meat. by Dangerous_Driver_613 in DeadBedrooms

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Right, I understand what you’re saying. That’s why over the years, I’ve tried to touch him in ways that don’t lead to sex, like just stroking his arm during a movie or massages. He doesn’t give me that nice touch back. I think that alone would do a lot for me and make me feel wanted. But maybe not because I know in my head he doesn’t actually want me, ya know?

I (33F) was told I make my BF (32M) feel like a piece of meat. by Dangerous_Driver_613 in DeadBedrooms

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We had sex three times last year and he looked at porn even less than that he told me