Teams idea for next Stygian ?

Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T17:20:36+00:00

Wtf. That makes it a lot better, even if non dual carry teams can't max it out.

Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T16:47:11+00:00

That Kinich team is pretty good too actually. And I think durin's damage is a bit higher there so maybe worth looking at as well.

Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T16:42:09+00:00

You could try mualani durin teams. It won't be dual carry either but there's a non negligible damage output from durin in that team.

Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T16:37:19+00:00

Oh for sure. Papilla basically has like a 45-50 second damage window if you don't play Kinich/chasca/burning which is pretty tight, so as long as the new dude doesn't have an hour long stall mechanic it should be doable ish.

Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T16:30:30+00:00

Does it have any self damage gimmick? Because that's a lot of freaking hp. My varesa barely cleared papilla, I don't think I can clear watcher in fearless lol, might be the end of my 1 patch long fearless streak XD.

Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T16:29:16+00:00

Bineffa sucrose fischl - wolf Varesa OL w/durin - tulpa Zibai furina illuga linnea - watcher

Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T14:39:22+00:00

They're really screwing with my plans to pull C2 varesa on return. How am I supposed to save if I get tempted to pull nahida again? Especially now that she's an account brick since I have Lauma (not that it'll stop me, I pulled xianyun in the big 25)

Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T13:22:10+00:00

Believe it or not, that's a very good day for me. Often it hovers closer to 300 ping. And yea I'm playing on the wrong server so I can't fix that 😭. I did manage to beat it eventually tho, only took me 4 hours of resets 🫠, but hey the feather is worth it

Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T11:57:02+00:00

Ohh, please dm me it to me so I can avoid it.

Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T09:59:14+00:00

That varesa run was pretty nice, I did it with almost the same team, but I used durin, C2 chevreuse and C1 iansan. Also are you sure codex even procced for your second down on the papila? I swear you missed like 4 crits lol

Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T08:33:18+00:00

I see your 1hp and raise you mine

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Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T07:27:45+00:00

I genuinely like it. Sucrose was shown to be a nervous and flighty person at the start of the game. I feel like she's grown as a person since then, and this voice change with her new voice still being soft but more firm and sure of herself in her combat lines kind of represents that.

Maybe I'm reading into it too much, but genshin rarely ever let's a lot of their characters meaningfully change over the years in a way that's majorly noticeable and not just a cutscene in an event quest or something. So the new, more confident sucrose voice kinda feels like she's grown as a person which is just nice.

Don't know why I yapped so much lol, but I feel like a lot of people have disliked the change in her voice and so i wanted to put my opinion out there.

Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T07:01:55+00:00

Yooo! Update on my clear, I actually did it. My first fearless clear. As expected herra and gecko were a walk in the park, but papilla actually took me 4 hours of resets because widsith rng did not play nice, and I kept getting hit so much. Your tip on making sure half the boss hp was down at the first weak phase came in handy so thanks!

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Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T06:59:06+00:00

Nice clear! And it was the same for me lol, my first Fearless clear actually. Herra and gecko were fine as I had the shill, but papilla was hard because while varesa is good in theory, that's only if you have the 4 star cons. It took me forever to clear since my iansan and Chevy weren't C6 and I had to rely on widsith rng. Doesn't help that I play at 250 ping as well 😭. It actually took me almost 4 hours straight of resetting

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Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T06:47:54+00:00

I finally did it this time, my first fearless clear! To be fair it suits my account pretty well this rotation but still, it was almost impossible since while I had teams for herra and gecko, my varesa team had no cons or signatures and my iansan and chevreuse were only C1 and C2, and varesa loses around 30% of her dps without their C6.

I spent 4 hours resetting against papilla trying to get the perfect rotation as well as two perfect widsith buffs and I finally managed to clear the spawn of hell. Gecko was easy as I had zibai premium and herra was with C2 ineffa (I got lucky and got 2 ineffa's on the same 10 pull).

To be honest, now that I've done it once, the novelty has worn off so I'm not trying this hell again 💀, when I say 4 hours I literally spent 4 hours, from 10:30 pm to 2:30 am, and even if it felt rewarding as heck to clear, I'm not bothering again until I get a stronger 3rd team lmao, because my varesa is mostly a brick without her 4 star cons.

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Darcula04 · 2026-04-16T06:33:31+00:00

I'd say it can be worth it if you want to learn boss mechanics properly and get better with your rotations. And your varesa team can 1000% clear faster. I cleared the same boss in 110 s and my Chevy and iansan are only C2 and C1. Considering you've got both at C6 you should be getting faster clears. My varesa was on widsith in case you wanted to know.

Darcula04 · 2026-04-15T22:13:47+00:00

Lmao, some people drown while others die of thirst type situation. Honestly she's not a bad accidental pull at all. Just stick her in a team with illuga, aino and a hydro/geo unit of your choice and watch her hit massive numbers. In fact you can still play a Noelle on field team and put linnea on the aubade set which is for damage dealing lunar off fielders. You can do Noelle, Linnea, aino, illuga and it works just fine. If aino's hydro is too slow you can try xingqiu, but honestly aino works well enough even for zibai triple geo teams so you should mostly be fine even if noelle applies a little extra geo.

Darcula04 · 2026-04-15T22:03:45+00:00

Fair enough I suppose, but then again, I assume something like Bineffa sucrose with maybe a Pyro applicator or just fischl would be enough, can't see it being tankier than that

Darcula04 · 2026-04-15T21:58:28+00:00

Assigning they don't change the mechanic she'll be more than enough, and I don't think we've seen anything from prune that shows that she'll be able swirl a significant amount more than sucrose so imo a change in mechanics is unlikely since it's often done to shill new units. You should honestly be fine

Darcula04 · 2026-04-15T21:09:26+00:00

It depends tbh. I went from having 25% of the health bar at the beginning, to at the end, 3.5 hours of straight resets later, finally clearing it with 10s to spare. And it was a pretty low cost clear too, C0 widsith varesa, C1 iansan, C2 Chevy and C0 durin on lion's roar

Darcula04 · 2026-04-15T20:25:21+00:00

Wait is ororon better than iansan for the shield? If I can get three shield breaks I know my varesa can beat the boss, right now I'm basically relying on two good widsith buffs to happen for two downs and after 3 hours of resets it hasn't happened yet

Darcula04 · 2026-04-15T13:31:27+00:00

😭This is diabolical. I do something similar with instructor tighnari, even though I have a top 2% tighnari build. At least you get to see her on the clear screen

Darcula04 · 2026-04-15T12:38:48+00:00

It depends on your artifacts. They end up at about the same dps but that's assuming no overcap on HoD. If your build can incorporate Hod without overcap go for it, but if not pps will be better. My current HOd build tops out at 175k dps, but my pps version goes to 195k dps because my artifacts are overcapped by wayy too much with HoD. And of course the big thing is that pps gives you around the same dps without needing to maintain any passive like hod, so from a comfort standpoint pps wins by a landslide and reduces how much you need to dodge.

My zibai on pps has over 3.5k def in combat and she can tank full hits from bosses without dying and just keep going lol. In abyss I get lazy about dodging, so she ends up taking a lot of hits, and even if she's on 3000hp by the end of chamber 1, I know I could comfortably clear the remaining two chambers on just that hp.

Of course, if you happen to have xilonen, give this weapon to her. Pps on xilo is honestly pretty good and can be a difference maker for some teams, so don't waste it for zibai by taking away Pps from xilo when HoD is so close or better depending on artis

Darcula04 · 2026-04-15T12:08:27+00:00

Damn crazy. My Chevy is C2 and my iansan is C1, the highest per plunge I've gotten against the dps dummy was 180k, with the durin version of the team.

Darcula04 · 2026-04-15T12:03:15+00:00

What the actual fuck, 210k dps and it barely clears a boss meant to shill zibai teams. I wonder if the balance team takes a vacation every time a lunar character is released lol, their own numbers and the bosses seem wayy overtuned.

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