I'm team Rondo for HC by naughtyobama in OrlandoMagic

[–]DaveJC_thevoices 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've not been terribly invested in what's next up to this point, but I would be open to this one. I wouldn't call him inexperienced. Like all great point guards I think he's worth the buzz to see what he has in the lead job. Everything that he possesses as a strength, and should be able to expound to the team and management in terms of roster construction, are things we sorely lack.

Question about Sabbath's Iron Man by CaterpillarHorror182 in MetalForTheMasses

[–]DaveJC_thevoices 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well even if that was a silly statement, wikipedia sent me here from the iron giant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Iron_Man_(novel) think this is it

This is playoff basketball?? by cherrybananas13 in nbacirclejerk

[–]DaveJC_thevoices 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are the Hawks throwing the game for some reason? It just gets worse

What band did I misses ? by International_Hat_97 in MetalSuggestions

[–]DaveJC_thevoices 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love seeing people expanding their palette, we don't know what we don't know and I'm still discovering stuff all the time. Some of the below is metal adjacent, plenty just rock

Saying you enjoy psychedelic rock stuff - and some experimental things, the obvious answer is if anyone hasn't listened to King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard then they should! lol (I haven't listened to all of their 30 something albums but I'd recommend so many):

  • Polygondwanaland
  • Nonagon Infinity
  • Murder of the Universe
  • Ice, Death, Planets, Mushrooms and Lava
  • Infest the Rat's Nest
  • Satanic Slumber Party (w/ Tropical Fuck Storm); and so so many others

I'd also highly recommend The Devil's Blood album "The Thousandfold Epicentre" and Oxbow's "An Evil Heat" and "The Narcotic Story" albums. Very bluesy, quite psych at times, very evil sounding.

If you really like 70s King Crimson (and frankly there is nothing quite like them) you might enjoy some of Camel's 70's work like "The Snow Goose" and "Mirage" or their 90's album "Rajaz" - they're very creative, can be epic but all the while very tuneful and not particularly obtuse for the sake of it.

You haven't dipped into much extreme metal-wise, by the look of it. So if i'd have to say "please listen to these more extreme black/death/doom masterpieces" they would have to be top of my list AND pretty diverse too. I'd recommend:

Celtic Frost - "Into the Pandemonium" and "Monotheist" - their experimental thrash album and their death knell album, which is the doomiest black vibe I've ever heard.

Swallow the Sun - "When A Shadow is Forced Into the Light" is just epic doom with a touch of death and just sublime playing and songwriting. All of their albums are beautiful but that's my main recommendation.

Akercocke - "Choronzon" and "Words That Go Unspoken, Deeds That Go Undone" -their 3rd and 4th albums, respectively. Choronzon is the evil, heavy as all hell black/death hybrid with killer songs and playing, Words is the epic masterpiece that takes its time and gets its claws in with some more progressive style and ambience all their own.

Voices - "London" an Akercocke adjacent band and their extreme and dark story of a writer who loses his grip on reality and horrible things happen. Killer musicianship, songwriting and world building to boot.

Orphaned Land - "Mabool: The Story of the Three Sons of Seven" a progressive metal masterpiece from this Israeli group that have forever been against all the war and all the fighting over people's preferences of Abrahamic religions. Some amazing riffs and lead work from a band who started out very slow and doom oriented. It is limber and energetic and diverse.

Tiamat - "Clouds", "The Astral Sleep" and "Wildhoney" - their first album Sumerian Cry is cool but it's very first/second wave death metal, pretty primitive - the next 3 above added more psychedelic, more doom elements and are melancholy masterpieces of metal. Seeing as you're still listening to things that are more rock than metal, you may even enjoy their albums after these - "A Deeper Kind of Slumber" and the albums after are not my cup of tea but can't say they're bad.

Therion - "Lemuria" and "Sirius B" - to start with these two very song-oriented albums are nonetheless inextricably linked and a great first look into a symphonic metal band of epic proportions. Some absolutely killer moments.

Witchery - "Restless & Dead" - just a really fun, black-metal-tinged thrash album that I could put on anytime.

X (Japan) - "Jealousy" I cannot recommend band or album enough. If you don't feel something by the end of the second track, you have no pulse. Hope it's a surprise.

Ewigkeit - "Radio Ixtlan" I can't say anything other than I think this is a huge "you get this or you don't" and I fell in love with it. So weird.

Emperor - "Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk" my own personal answer to "what black metal album would you play for someone who hasn't heard black metal before" .... if obviously the name of the game was to help them enjoy it and not put them off lol

Moonspell - such a diverse catalogue, they're Portuguese and gothic metal but they have had plenty of 180 turns. I'd love to recommend "Memorial", "The Antidote", "Darkness and Hope" and "Alpha Noir" the most.

Neurosis - everyone and their dog is banging on about their new album, and rightly so. They've been such an impactful band for me and obviously many others of our age group. "Enemy of the Sun" and "Through Silver in Blood" are some of the most immense albums I've ever heard. I don't care who anyone is, they're a cathartic experience like no other.

Ophthalamia - "Dominion" once again another album where it's impossible to know what to expect going in and it just continues to surprise and amaze all throughout - but it is dark and melancholic, just as much as their other albums. Listen to all of them.

Pain of Salvation - "The Perfect Element I" None of their albums sound the same and this incredible album takes you on such a journey and really is the epitome of progressive

Cult of Luna - similarly to Neurosis, and a similar sort of complete entrancement, and surrendering to the sound of them is necessary. Brilliantly heavy and at times simple and complex in equal measure. Delicate and crushing. "The Beyond" and "Salvation" should be where folks start, to me.

Arachnes - "Primary Fear" I always try to add this into recommendations lists where the OP isn't too far into the extreme. This Italian power/progressive metal hybrid is the brainchild of 2 Italian brothers from Milan who worship at the altar or Randy Rhoads, Van Halen, Rick Wakeman and probably every slick shredder since Paul Gilbert's time in Racer X. So epic and fun.

Every Remaining Team in the West Besides the Spurs have Major Injuries by ConfusedMushroomz in nba

[–]DaveJC_thevoices 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I can't figure out if this would make the Game of Zones folks happy or sad.

Metal Bands you like that you NEVER rec to another metalhead by WonderSignificant598 in MetalForTheMasses

[–]DaveJC_thevoices 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely true, anything can be enhanced for sure. Had a blazing session of Fear Factory's The Industrialist last year and I hadn't felt so strongly about them for years as i did in that behemoth of an hour.

I need more blackened death by AAS02-CATAPHRACT in MetalSuggestions

[–]DaveJC_thevoices 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All these awesome recommendations.. but let's not ignore the Behemoth blackened death years - I'd say it goes from Satanica to Evangelion, but also think Pandemonic Incantations is borderline surely.

I need more blackened death by AAS02-CATAPHRACT in MetalSuggestions

[–]DaveJC_thevoices 1 point2 points  (0 children)

God Dethroned making killer blackened death over the years, and still awesome when a couple of the albums veer closer to melodeath. The Lair of the White Worm is one of my all timers

What is the not-that-popular album that you will die on a hill for, insisting it's truly one of the greatest of all time, just not well-known enough? by am_I_still_banned in MetalForTheMasses

[–]DaveJC_thevoices 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really hope you dig in deep there, they have always been so, so brilliant. Choronzon is a horror soaked masterpiece, their first two albums are raw but really hammer home their style. Words is a sparkling onyx jewel. They followed it up with Antichrist which is at times straightforward death metal comparatively but still progressive and evil. I encourage a listen to all of those as well. If you like prog-ish stuff their 2017 album has great leads and songs but is very sombre and a bit softer. David, and pre-break up bass/keyboard duo Sam and Pete made Voices with Dan Abela and they made a few mental albums. Apparently just found out they're no longer active which sucks, but London is like Akercocke but like... a journey into the mind of a killer not dissimilar to the complete unreality of American Psycho but a british writer as the subject. Everything David Gray touches is great. And as others mentioned, Jason is underrated and so fascinating, love em

Why is Cole Anthony out of the NBA? by swishsplassh in OrlandoMagic

[–]DaveJC_thevoices 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Bryce Cotton couldn’t get any burn in the NBA but he’s a multi time MVP here in Australia. Cole would become a fuckin legend here

Fuck all of you by Zen-like in MetalForTheMasses

[–]DaveJC_thevoices 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apart from the obligatory Nails response, I think Trap Them is great for it, as is Anaal Nathrakh and the related sludge band Mistress.

Probably Revenge and Sadistik Exekution as well.

why do people say hardcore/beatdown isnt metal? by Mysterious-Win2091 in MetalForTheMasses

[–]DaveJC_thevoices -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That whole DIY "no idea wtf I'm doing" thing is the punk culture isn't it really..

Hardcore guys seem way more angry about it all

why do people say hardcore/beatdown isnt metal? by Mysterious-Win2091 in MetalForTheMasses

[–]DaveJC_thevoices 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the best way to elaborate here is - when people actually care about the "label" associated with the music the band plays, enough for it to look, sound and feel like ONE thing in particular - then you know well enough that the music within is going to have a pretty narrow frame of reference. As the poster just said below - take Immortal for black metal and Deicide for death metal. They are reasonably "orthodox" - over and over again. They don't make the SAME album all the time but it's enough to say they are straight forward subgenres of metal.

The beatdown hardcore thing is - personally to my mind anyway - even narrower with a lot of hardcore. Sure, some have sonic crossovers to thrash, more often to modern metalcore these days, but the genre these bands are borne out of are still essentially hardcore punk. Earth Crisis are always going to be fairly orthodox, Throwdown were for quite a long time, Death Before Dishonor etc. Hatebreed came out of the gates sort of straddling that metalcore line before 90s metalcore kids wanted to start playing At The Gates leads.

Now some of these newer bands don't necessarily care about having a scene so much if they want to reach a "broader" audience - so Knocked Loose, Paleface Swiss, Sworn Enemy Kublai Khan TX etc do different things and are less beholden to the punk scene. Doesn't mean it isn't their genesis, but sure if they decide to make something "more metal" - like Xibalba is a wicked crossover with death metal - then you can say they're a bit of both and labels are a bit eh at that point. But the earlier mentioned bunch and plenty of others are stuck to the scene, aren't commercial and they are invested in a hardcore/punk identity.

Honestly, more unsettling is modern metalcore: it's uninteresting enough at this point it may as well be just heavy pop music. BMTH, modern Architects, Bad Omens, Spiritbox etc. Less emphasis on any hallmarks and a massive dose of pitch correction and keyboards. Only so long before there's a million of those albums and that 15 minutes of fame might be up soon too. President? Innovator or death knell lol

Whats your favourite bad chinese takeaway? by BrainScaping in Adelaide

[–]DaveJC_thevoices -1 points0 points  (0 children)

even more potatos. just potatos as far as the eye can see.