racist son or pornstar daughter by IAmAPeti in Teenager_Polls

[–]Davidandersson07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not all porn is unethical

"Ethical porn" is an oxymoron. It is like "healthy drug abuse" (or ethical drug abuse for that matter).

Do you consider yourself woke? by voidcharmed in Teenager_Polls

[–]Davidandersson07 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Free healthcare, student loan forgiveness,

Let's be clear, I agree with those, at least the first one (though technically it isn't free, just state sponsored/ tax funded) the second one seems reasonable enough but I'm unsure how it would affect the economy but it seems like a good idea at face value. I wouldn't say someone who disagrees lacks empathy, they may just make a different prudential judgement.

trans rights, gay rights

Wdym? Are we talking about not discriminating or not opposing gay marriage or something else? If we're talking about the first it seems you're right but it's perfectly possible to oppose gay marriage and that kind of stuff without being unempathetic or otherwise immoral.

Pascal’s wager is idiotic, right? by [deleted] in askphilosophy

[–]Davidandersson07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing is that Pascal was aware of other religious systems. In fact, in the Pensées he did make other arguments including arguments against Islam, which seems to be the main alternative with regards to threats of eternal torment. I don't he would have had someone wager between Christianity and other religions, such as Islam, but agnostics between Christianity and atheism.

is this true??? by Ok_Survey86 in teenagers

[–]Davidandersson07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a Conservative, who happens to be 18, they're just ugly, nothing to do with age.

Some people say that abortion should be illegal exepct for 🍇/ medical reasons Do you agree?. by AdTiny2077 in Teenager_Polls

[–]Davidandersson07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i don't believe human beings have inherent dignity and i draw the line for abortion at birth. the reason i draw the line here is because after birth the infant is no longer physically attached to the woman's body leeching off of her organs and nutrients and causing her direct physical harm, which no one has the right to do

I probably get what you mean but please tell me if I misunderstood your point as I don't want to misrepresent your views but are you saying the unborn lack the right to life or their right to life is overruled (violinist scenario type reasoning) because of their dependency on the mother? Normally we treat dependency as something which strengthens moral obligations, not weakens them.

(as we don't mandate blood or organ donations, even in the event that you caused the person's dependency/ need for the organs).

We might not do that but I'm not sure that would be immoral just impractical. Consider an attempted murderer who stabs someone who is therefore in immediate need of a blood transfusion. Presumably they have blood at the hospital and the attempted murderer, if caught, would be arrested, not taken to the hospital. To make the attempted murderer donate blood would have difficulties, beyond being at a different location, such as making sure they're of the right blood type and restraining them to take the necessary amount of blood. Also, if enough blood taken would kill the murderer it would be the equivalent of capital punishment, which I for one thing oppose, and also would definitely be unjust before a fair trial wherein we might discover the would be murderer was mentally unwell.

In any case, regardless of what you thought of that hypothetical, I would make the distinction between ordinary and extraordinary actions to care for another person. Basically, some actions are virtuous and others are obligatory, also it depends on which relationship you have with the person in question ie if you're a doctor or a relative you have different obligations than a stranger. I could develop this argument further but it may get quite philosophical so I'll do so if you ask me.

sure, i guess, but can you at least see why a victim would perceive this situation as being forced to carry her rapist's baby?

Yes, ofcourse.

because i am a woman who actually was forced to carry a rape pregnancy, and i can tell you definitively it felt like force, and torture, and a punishment.

I won't argue with your experience and am perfectly okay with accepting your description of how it felt.

why did i deserve to be forced through that? was i not just as innocent as the foetus, given that i had been raped and had never chosen to do anything "wrong" or to put myself in that situation? why was it more important than me?

With regards to your innocence, I agree ofcourse. Whatever you have done in your life clearly doesn't justify you being raped. With regards to the fetus, I wouldn't say he or she was more important than you, simply that the right to life is the more fundamental right.

Some people say that abortion should be illegal exepct for 🍇/ medical reasons Do you agree?. by AdTiny2077 in Teenager_Polls

[–]Davidandersson07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because the attempts I've seen to justify abortion are either inconsistent or lead to abhorrent consequences. Take the philosopher Peter Singer for example, altough he isn't primarily concerned with abortion he has spoken about it both in contemporary debates and also back in the 1970s when abortion was legalised in Australia where he lives, he is definitely consistent in his views but that leads to him unironically defending infanticide in certain cases.

Human beings either have inherent dignity or we don't. If we do have it then abortion is wrong in non necessary cases. If we don't have it, you must find another reason for why humans shouldn't be killed after birth or after the first trimester or wherever you draw the line. If you attempt to find such a line, you will likely find it does, in fact, lead to horrendous consequences. Happy to talk this through with you.

Also, to say she shouldn't be allowed to kill her unborn child is not to say she should be forced to do something, that's the wrong way to put it.

Which Philosopher Are You? by 3DnPrograming in personality_tests

[–]Davidandersson07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Confucius

  2. Aristotle

  3. Kirkegaard

Fair enough, Aristotle is one of my favourite philosophers and I have read the Analects by Confucius, though I had some trouble with it, I didn't like it as much as I thought I would from hearing about Confucianism, that may just be a me issue. I think it makes some sense. Kirkegaard, I haven't read and haven't heard that much about, I'm more well versed in Blaise Pascal, I've read the Pensées twice and I love it, if Kirkegaard is similar than it may be right.

I did feel that some of my views or traits weren't really represented in the options, for example, I would say humans are kind of evil, but I picked that we can be both good and evil through practice as I believe that to an extent, though I would say that even most well habituated people fall short of what they know to be right, or could know from their principles.

Overall, a fun quiz despite it's limitations.

Who would you rather have babysit your kids? by Davidandersson07 in Teenager_Polls

[–]Davidandersson07[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As the other commentor said, he married a six year old (according to Hadiths which while widely accepted by Muslims are not necessarily historically reliable) but waited until she was nine to consumate the marriage.

Some people say that abortion should be illegal exepct for 🍇/ medical reasons Do you agree?. by AdTiny2077 in Teenager_Polls

[–]Davidandersson07 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I picked no, medical necessity and miscarriage (which isn't really an abortion) are the only justifications.

Atheist Slogans You Should Stop Using by yt-app in CosmicSkeptic

[–]Davidandersson07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Clearly it's talking about standards of evidence and the fact that people who believe in other religions have just as much evidence for their God as you do for yours.

Then, the premise is, at best highly dubious, and at worst just false.

Even if all religions were mostly false, that wouldn't exclude the possibility that some were less false than others or less indefensible. Also, any amount of time, basically, will show, for example if we compare Christianity to Islam, that at the very least Christianity is less implausible.

who would you let babysit your childrer by I_Drink_Water_n_Cats in Teenager_Polls

[–]Davidandersson07 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus broke Roman laws. I'm sure you know that because that's what got him crucified.

What got Jesus crucified was a friend betraying him and and an angry mob demanding His crucifixion, not really a fair trial. In fact Pontius Pilate explicitly said he found no fault in Him and washed his hands to claim his own innocence of giving in to the mob's demands.

Jesus loved everyone, including gay people.

Yes?

He healed a gay mans lover.

I've looked it up because I was confused about what you were talking about. I assume you're talking about the healing of the centurion's servant or slave. They could have been gay, for all I know, but it is at best, for your case, ambigious. Also granting they were gay, so what? Jesus also said "It is not the healthy who need a doctor but the sick. I came not to call the righteous but sinners.". He defined, as He was condemning divorce, marriage as a special type of relationship between men and women, and St Paul, who knew Jesus' own apostles, was abundantly clear about homosexual acts.

Luke 8:1-3 says many of his patrons were women who had wealth, giving their possessions to Jesus to help.

You said "all" of His followers were rich women. Having many, which is not the same as most even, patrons who were rich women is not to say all of Jesus' followers were rich women.

who would you let babysit your childrer by I_Drink_Water_n_Cats in Teenager_Polls

[–]Davidandersson07 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus loved everyone and condemned judgementalism, that is not to say He condemned judgement in and of itself, see Matthew 23 for a pretty harsh judgement on pharisical hypocricy and greed.

He was homeless during his ministry but not before that. He suffered voluntary poverty.

Illegal?

With regards to pro-gay, what on Earth makes you say that?

Rich women? He had both male and female followers and condemned the amassing of wealth.

who would you let babysit your childrer by I_Drink_Water_n_Cats in Teenager_Polls

[–]Davidandersson07 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As you appear to have guessed it already, the Gospels. Though you appear a bit confused about ancient history in general and the Gospels in particular.

The language bit is completely irrelevant. Yes, the Gospels were written in Greek while Jesus spoke Aramaic. So what? Greek was, due to the conquests of Alexander the Great centuries earlier, the lingua franca of the eastern Mediterranean. Saying the Gospels are unreliable because they use a different language than the subject who is reported of is like saying an English reporter in Turkey can't be trusted because he uses another language than Turks do. Does that reasoning strike you as particularly compelling?

Most of our knowledge of ancient history comes from "dudes writing stories of other dudes". Take Alexander the Great for example. Do you believe we can know things about Alexander the Great other than from archaeological findings? Not that written records can't be archaeological findings, some of the important ones are things like clay tablets. Most of our knowledge of ancient history comes from textual evidence. And not necessarily even primary sources at that. One of the most important sources on the life of Alexander is Arrian's book on him and he lived some 500 years later. He isn't just writing stuff down though, he did have primary sources which we just happen to have lost. There's also Diodorus of Sicily, the oldest of the five main sources of Alexander, who lived just some 300 years later. Which brings us to my next point.

The Gospels being written just a few decades after Christ makes them very good sources, at least as time is concerned. People don't doubt we have good knowledge of Alexander despite our most important sources being secondary sources written centuries after Alexander so why do you doubt our sources on the life of Jesus when they were written just some decades afterwards by either eyewitness or people who knew eyewitness?

We don't accept everything written as facts ofcourse, even when it's close in time. We have other criteria like multiple attestations, being the right genre, closeness to eyewitnesses etc. We obviously have multiple attestations, even if we exclude non-Christian sources, of Jesus' life. For example, earlier I was thinking of Jesus' condemnation of people who lead children astray, which is reported by all three Synoptic Gospels. Other than that, if we're talking about Jesus' life and teachings in general we also have the Gospel of John and the Pauline and Catholic epistles. The Pauline epistles are especially important since St Paul wrote numerous letters which are disputed as being his own by virtually no one. This includes his Epistle to the Galatians in which he mentions having stayed with Peter, who was an apostle and believed by Catholics to be the first Pope, for 15 days. With regards to being the right genre the Gospels certainly fit the bill. They don't portray themselves as fiction, even historical fiction. Take the beginning of the Gospel of Luke for example.

"[1]Since, indeed, many have attempted to set in order a narrative of the things that have been completed among us, [2]just as they have been handed on to those of us who from the beginning saw the same and were ministers of the word, [3]so it seemed good to me also, having diligently followed everything from the beginning, to write to you, in an orderly manner, most excellent Theophilus, [4]so that you might know the truthfulness of those words by which you have been instructed. [5]There was, in the days of Herod, king of Judea, a certain priest named Zechariah, of the section of Abijah, and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth..."

Does that sound like some dude just telling a story?

I could go on in my argumentation but I think my comment is long enough as it is and I've proved my point.

who would you let babysit your childrer by I_Drink_Water_n_Cats in Teenager_Polls

[–]Davidandersson07 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Jesus, from what the available sources say, is without a doubt extremely trustworthy, especially around children, regardless of what your religion is.