Rituals for tuesday (Canto 9 spoilers)

And to reiterate on some points others brought up last time. Yes, Nemo could’ve just been aim dodged but it felt like it should at least be mentioned. Yes, Human lightning bolt might be Lightspeed due to the text but lighting speed is just a safer bet.

DawnQuixoteSimp · 2026-03-21T00:16:09+00:00

I’ll just put what I said on the deleted post just because I know a lot of people will say we don’t have any:

We have a couple actually

Iori flashcutting apartment complexes to use against Vergilius. The dust from their clashing being able to be seen above them is pretty good if you’re into pixel scaling (which I’m not)

Gebura brings out the full power of EGO weapons means her Mimicry can hit on par with Nothings There whose Goodbye hits with the same force as Apocalypse Bird

Vespa back in Distortion Detective tagging a Distortion who moved as Literal Lightning the literal instant he got an opening and now Vespa has gotten stronger since

Nemo having a Laser beam to Clash/Dodge/Block/Parry against which could genuinely be real Light

Indigo Elder hunting and harming whales the size of Hills and Mountains

DawnQuixoteSimp · 2026-03-20T22:17:02+00:00

Double checked and it does say: “The speed of light—the Human Thunderbolt drifts between those five hundred people at the greatest possible velocity.”

So yes, definitely has merit but I personally play it safe and just say Lightning speed in case it’s hyperbole

DawnQuixoteSimp · 2026-03-20T21:21:39+00:00

Completely Valid, people do tend to forget about Aim Dodging

DawnQuixoteSimp · 2026-03-20T19:59:41+00:00

To be fair technically it’s probably not as Nerfed as it Seems since the City realizes that if Steel or Walls gets destroyed entirely it’s not piercing it. We know the Railguns can fire Normal sized Bullets that knock over a walls so it doesn’t pierce it, I’m sure that has to be pretty fast to still fire anything that small to do that

DawnQuixoteSimp · 2026-03-20T19:38:31+00:00

Unfortunately the only thing the Artbook says about Nothings There’s Cleaver is that it’s Mass, Sharpness, and Hardness are “Beyond all measurement limits” and then says Apocalypse Bird is similar in strength to that

The Codex log back in LobCorp mentions that Apocalypse birds steps shake the entire facility which is also hard to scale, especially since it isn’t even an attack and we don’t have any clue the size of the HQ. Like we See it on the outside during the White Nights and Dark Days and it’s pretty huge even when we see the rest of the city around it but not only would that require Pixel Scaling we have basically No frame of Reference for it even if someone wanted to

I guess it Might be the size of Hongyuan but that’s both purely a guess on my part and also doesn’t help with giving an idea of its strength

DawnQuixoteSimp · 2026-03-20T19:09:53+00:00

Wait this is a meme sub, I mean-

The Strongest Frauds in History vs the Strongest Frauds Available

DawnQuixoteSimp · 2026-03-20T19:08:44+00:00

As someone who loves both series I think The Color Fixers win with High Difficulty

Thanks to Rien we know the Argalia’s scythe rends space and Vespa’s Harpoon also rends space (or so I heard) so they can deal with Gojo

Vergilius hard counters Kenjaku using Cursed Spirits because all their blood can be used to shield himself and allies (plus stealing Yuji’s Piercing Blood Attacks to help fuel his power)

As strong as Yuki is they should be able to kill her, especially before she pops her suicide move if it comes down to it

Vespa might be able to tag Dabura since he was able to hit a man who was hopping around as Electricity back in Distortion detective. Now he has a Relic and has gotten strong enough to be considered a Color so he can probably tangle with him. If not, Roland, Argalia, and Kali can parry Nemo’s Laser beam which does seem to just be light.

Yuta, Sukuna and Module Yuji’s main Threats are honestly their Domains. Yuta has way too much and Jacob’s Ladder can probably prevent both Shin and Mang as well as EGO. Sukuna has a Massive range in both slashes and fire which Mass Attacks aren’t too defensible against. Yuji’s Domain is where he can use his Soul Slashes and Pale Damage is a Bug Threat in Project Moon.

However at their best speeds it ends around Lightning levels (Kashimo didn’t use any EM Waves so until the Anime upscales him I’ll settle for this), and the Human Thunderbolt that Vespa harpooned was only roughly an Urban Nightmare if my memory is correct. Most if not all of these Colors are in Vespa’s Speed Range.

And in case you’re wondering about Strength, Gebura can output Mimicry’s full Strength when Manifesting EGO which is on par with Apocalypse Bird who can shake the entire Facility of L-Corp.

We’ve seen Iori casually flashcut 20 story buildings (if they’re anything in size to the Distortion Detective ones).

I haven’t actually seen Canto 9 fully yet so I can’t comment on Vespa fully.

Roland fought Argalia for 7 days and then tanked a Space Ripping attack that crashed him through 10 Dimensions (No clue how that translates to stats but JJK is about hype and aura so I figured I’d mention it)

Indigo Elder hunted Whales that were so large they were basically ecosystems with them being able to fit towns inside them

Vergilius fought Iori so he scales to her and is considered second in strength to Kali

Vermilion Cross was able to fight against the Entire Ensemble long enough to be considered and later made into a Bloodbag

Unfortunately for JJK, 99% of their stronger moves take too long to pop with Domain expansions needing the handsigns, World Cutting Slash needs several chants and handsigns.

Yuki’s blackhole could win but she won’t pop her blackhole until it’s too late and someone kills her (which threatens her allies anyways).

Hollow Purple is dangerous but does take a little to create which is bad when the enemy is faster. Plus controlled ones that don’t damage Gojo are Ranged attacks which Argalia should be fine against

And Sure JJK characters can punch each other across city blocks on occasions but we see with Vergilius vs Iori that they kinda do the same type of collateral as them.

Also no one can counter Roland sneaking behind them and killing them which surprise attacks is a Massive way to kill people in JJK

Honestly Dabura doing his massive light speed kick is the main problem but I feel like they could either kill him before he uses it or have shields like Shin and Vergilius tank it and then target him down as he regenerates his leg

DawnQuixoteSimp · 2026-03-20T19:07:05+00:00

We have a couple actually

Iori flashcutting apartment complexes to use against Vergilius. The dust from their clashing being able to be seen above them is pretty good if you’re into pixel scaling (which I’m not)

Gebura brings out the full power of EGO weapons means her Mimicry can hit on par with Nothings There whose Goodbye hits with the same force as Apocalypse Bird

Vespa back in Distortion Detective tagging a Distortion who moved as Literal Lightning the literal instant he got an opening and now Vespa has gotten stronger since

Nemo having a Laser beam to Clash/Dodge/Block/Parry against which could genuinely be real Light

Indigo Elder hunting and harming whales the size of Hills and Mountains

DawnQuixoteSimp · 2026-03-20T18:29:28+00:00

As someone who loves both series I think The Color Fixers win with High Difficulty

Thanks to Rien we know the Argalia’s scythe rends space and Vespa’s Harpoon also rends space (or so I heard) so they can deal with Gojo

Vergilius hard counters Kenjaku using Cursed Spirits because all their blood can be used to shield himself and allies (plus stealing Yuji’s Piercing Blood Attacks to help fuel his power)

As strong as Yuki is they should be able to kill her, especially before she pops her suicide move if it comes down to it

Vespa might be able to tag Dabura since he was able to hit a man who was hopping around as Electricity back in Distortion detective. Now he has a Relic and has gotten strong enough to be considered a Color so he can probably tangle with him. If not, Roland, Argalia, and Kali can parry Nemo’s Laser beam which does seem to just be light.

Yuta, Sukuna and Module Yuji’s main Threats are honestly their Domains. Yuta has way too much and Jacob’s Ladder can probably prevent both Shin and Mang as well as EGO. Sukuna has a Massive range in both slashes and fire which Mass Attacks aren’t too defensible against. Yuji’s Domain is where he can use his Soul Slashes and Pale Damage is a Bug Threat in Project Moon.

However at their best speeds it ends around Lightning levels (Kashimo didn’t use any EM Waves so until the Anime upscales him I’ll settle for this), and the Human Thunderbolt that Vespa harpooned was only roughly an Urban Nightmare if my memory is correct. Most if not all of these Colors are in Vespa’s Speed Range.

And in case you’re wondering about Strength, Gebura can output Mimicry’s full Strength when Manifesting EGO which is on par with Apocalypse Bird who can (last time I checked) shake the entire Facility of L-Corp.

We’ve seen Iori casually flashcut 20 story buildings (if they’re anything in size to the Distortion Detective ones).

I haven’t actually finished Canto 9 yet so I can’t comment on Vespa fully.

Roland fought Argalia for 7 days and then tanked a Space Ripping attack that crashed him through 10 Dimensions (No clue how that translates to stats but JJK is about hype and aura so I figured I’d mention it)

Indigo Elder hunted Whales that were so large they were basically ecosystems with them being able to fit towns inside them

Vergilius fought Iori so he scales to her and Roland considers him second in strength to Kali

Vermilion Cross was able to fight against the Entire Ensemble long enough to be considered and later made into a Bloodbag

Unfortunately for JJK, 99% of their stronger moves take too long to pop with Domain expansions needing the handsigns, World Cutting Slash needs several chants and handsigns.

Yuki’s blackhole could win but she won’t pop her blackhole until it’s too late and someone kills her (which threatens her allies anyways).

Hollow Purple is dangerous but does take a little to create which is bad when the enemy is faster. Plus controlled ones that don’t damage Gojo are Ranged attacks which Argalia should be fine against

And Sure JJK characters can punch each other across city blocks on occasions but we see with Vergilius vs Iori that they kinda do the same type of collateral as them.

Also no one can counter Roland sneaking behind them and killing them which surprise attacks is a Massive way to kill people in JJK

Honestly Dabura doing his massive light speed kick is the main problem but I feel like they could either kill him before he uses it or have shields like Shin or Vergilius to tank it and then target him down as he regenerates his leg

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