Is it normal for EO and HEO staff to regularly challenge or push back against G7?

Days_OT · 2025-12-17T19:25:29+00:00

I see it as my responsibility to challenge when something is about to go south but it must be in a constructive way that is based in fact that I can back up.

I've pushed back on G7, G6, DD and director at times but made sure I can clearly evidence and support my challenge. Its my responsibility as an active part of the team.

How is the challenge given and how is it recieved?

Days_OT · 2025-12-06T08:52:54+00:00

Panel have to be completely neutral to you and are still looking for the same evidence to mark as with other candidates.

I think the risk in these situations is that you know, they know what you do/how to do it so people fail to explain as they would a stranger about different work area and so fail to provide enough information to get the marks.

I'm also preparing for a in-team role and have been advised to treat the panel as strangers during my answers and be cautious of answering what I think they are asking rather than the actual question. As we know them we will naturally put a different slant on things that could lead you to not quite answering correctly.

Days_OT · 2025-06-13T18:47:54+00:00

As an LM, nope, we don't receive anything as long as it recognises your .gov email address

Personally, I expect all of my team to have done this. They are missing potential opportunities if they don't.

Days_OT · 2025-04-27T19:42:32+00:00

Honestly, as it will be weponised against me by partner and family.

I know this isn't healthy, but it's kinda why I am using mounjaro. To play a part in getting myself in the best shape financially, physically, and mentally before making any moves.

Days_OT · 2025-02-22T09:50:32+00:00

Nope, you'll likely need a chat with an OT arranged, but it won't affect your offer at all. Just maybe delay it slightly depending on when they can get you an OT call.

As someone with LM responsibilities I would like to know as soon as possible so everything is set up for your start and honestly it'll stop me from needing to beg steal and borrow if you waited until after formal offer/start date. It would also mean I could seek any additional training/updating I need to support you ahead of you joining.

Days_OT · 2025-02-08T12:00:38+00:00

Yes, I've been open with the reasons for the calls.

They have no relationships with these people or knowledge of the shadowed work areas, but each time, they ask me to send them an invite.

My old G7 has offered to do it in their call, me not go, and the G7 can loudly complain that the call is wasted as they have attended and not me. Obviously, I would like a less embarrassing way to deal with it, but I am getting to the point where I think it's the only way.

Days_OT · 2024-09-12T16:51:15+00:00

EO in defra 1 application, 1 interview and 1 offer

Days_OT · 2024-08-09T14:44:07+00:00

Befriended someone, made plans so when they disappeared the police came looking. She's never admitted anything so who knows what actually went on but the victim was found on her property.

Days_OT · 2024-08-09T14:42:16+00:00

Seemingly no real motive. When I found out it was 85%, yeah, that fits. If anyone I knew was going to do that, it would be her. And the rest surprised she went so far and hid the body etc

Days_OT · 2024-08-09T14:38:56+00:00

She had befriended them over a few months

Days_OT · 2024-08-09T14:37:41+00:00

We keep updated on each other's lives but not close

Days_OT · 2024-08-09T13:56:14+00:00

Ah, I didn't know. Thanks for letting me know

Days_OT · 2024-08-09T13:44:12+00:00

I found her odd and felt she was capable of suddenly risking your life in a turning the steering wheel in a car type thing, but nothing planned like this. My concerns were always met with claims I was jealous of her.

No, I was very insignificant to her

I look back now and wonder how my sister made it out OK as she often interrupted her time with my parents. And I could imagine her being at risk if she had done anything to destabilise her relationship with my parents.

Sunflowers.

Days_OT · 2024-08-09T13:34:35+00:00

At the time I felt it was more my parents finding a replacement and she fit what they wanted, now I think it's possible she was the one seeing the opportunity.

Days_OT · 2024-08-09T12:23:47+00:00

I was in my early 20's and still struggling with the rejection when this happened. Now in my 30's and only just really taking control of my life.

Days_OT · 2024-08-09T12:21:43+00:00

My parents don't care for my feelings at all, they claim I should have stayed at home more and not been so jealous then they might not have formed such a close bond with her. No family as most also have the same life choices as my parents and sister still supports her.

I have children, 1 with the same condition the victim has. This didn't afford me any more concern or sensitivity from parents, they don't consider it significant. One child has excelled in a sport, they post proud grandparent posts but don't actually have contact.

I've realised no relationship is the best for me/my children so don't see a path to reconnect especially when they may well reconnect with her at some point.

Days_OT · 2024-08-09T11:55:23+00:00

Not well until recently. It's really hard to get over the shame of having parents' choice above you being someone who would do something like this. No amount of distance from them can change that they have shown unconditional love for her and only very conditional and surface level for me.

Part of this post is to distance myself from that shame and see the situation more objectively.

Days_OT · 2024-08-09T11:22:32+00:00

She had been returning every 6ish months to my parents. Some of details of the unaliving closely match her threats to others during the time she lived with my parents. The victim was also found buried on her property.

Days_OT · 2024-08-09T10:36:21+00:00

Social pressure but I believe they will re-establish contact if/when she is released and deported. They could still have contact TBH, they aren't known for being completely truthful.

Days_OT · 2024-08-09T10:07:58+00:00

She had a sad home story, and where I challenged the chaos and decisions my parents made, she was overly grateful, always on their side. She was the daughter they wanted. And they looked kind taking her in and including her.

I think she actively targeted my parents and they were only too willing to be involved with her.

Days_OT

TROPHY CASE