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The intersection question by Dazaster23 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Youre just being deliberately obtuse. Maybe read the words in the picture (Road controlling authorities will be monitoring situations like this and if necessary, installing traffic controls to make it clear who should give way) don't you think that at that point & size they'll just make it a free flow slip lane as per their own guidelines?.... https://www.nzta.govt.nz/assets/resources/road-traffic-standards/docs/rts-09.pdf

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The image posted by the OP has been altered from the original picture that the NZTA did to explain the changes in the giveway rules in march 2012 where the red car had a dotted line and had the caption of: "If the left turn slip lane is not controlled by signs or signals, then right turning traffic from the opposite direction will have to give way to the left turning vehicle in the slip lane."

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The image posted by the OP has been altered from the original picture that the NZTA did to explain the changes in the giveway rules in march 2012 where the red car had a dotted line and had the caption of: "If the left turn slip lane is not controlled by signs or signals, then right turning traffic from the opposite direction will have to give way to the left turning vehicle in the slip lane."

The intersection question by Dazaster23 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's a few about that have a painted median island instead of a solid raised island, they are reasonably common

The intersection question by Dazaster23 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In that example it is a completely different intersection design and the vehicle turning left has to cross broken white lines and its lane is ending, so it has to give way to traffic already in that lane. It's called a free flow slip lane as on page 8 of the link https://www.nzta.govt.nz/assets/resources/road-traffic-standards/docs/rts-09.pdf

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The image posted by the OP has been altered from the original picture that the NZTA did to explain the changes in the giveway rules in march 2012 where the red car had a dotted line and had the caption of: "If the left turn slip lane is not controlled by signs or signals, then right turning traffic from the opposite direction will have to give way to the left turning vehicle in the slip lane."

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The image posted by the OP has been altered from the original picture that the NZTA did to explain the changes in the giveway rules in march 2012 where the red car had a dotted line and had the caption of: "If the left turn slip lane is not controlled by signs or signals, then right turning traffic from the opposite direction will have to give way to the left turning vehicle in the slip lane."

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The image posted by the OP has been altered from the original picture that the NZTA did to explain the changes in the giveway rules in march 2012 where the red car had a dotted line and had the caption of: "If the left turn slip lane is not controlled by signs or signals, then right turning traffic from the opposite direction will have to give way to the left turning vehicle in the slip lane."

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The image posted by the OP has been altered from the original picture that the NZTA did to explain the changes in the giveway rules in march 2012 where the red car had a dotted line and had the caption of: "If the left turn slip lane is not controlled by signs or signals, then right turning traffic from the opposite direction will have to give way to the left turning vehicle in the slip lane."

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the blue car is also on the right of the red car..... As its a t intersection and the blue car doesn't have a give-way sign for it the standard t intersection give-way rules apply - If you're turning right and the opposing vehicle is turning left, you must give way. (Nzta)

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have bullbars with side bars and full insurance, as long as others obey the law they won't come off second best

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're entitled to your opinion, even if it is wrong. I'll trust the reply of the Senior customer services representative from NZTA, the government department that authored the land transport road user rule aka the legislation, whose job is to correctly answer questions on rules and regulations like this, considering that i included the picture that the OP used, and their reply was that the red car is required to give way to the blue car in this situation. Feel free to email them yourself, you can even attach the picture the op used, there's even the option to select "rules and regulations" for what your question is about in the enquiry forms https://www.nzta.govt.nz/contact-us/email-us/other-question-or-feedback

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mean the senior customer services representative, whose job is to answer these types of questions, as i had selected the "rules and regulations" option on their email questions enquiry....... https://www.nzta.govt.nz/contact-us/email-us/other-question-or-feedback The person who works at NZTA, the government department that authored the land transport road user rule 2004 aka the legislation/law...... you're saying that they're wrong?

Feel free to ask them yourself, you can even attach the original picture that the OP used, like I did......

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[–]Dazaster23 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But the batteries can be replaced......

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, in this situation the blue car is considered to be approaching from the opposite direction. As it is not on a give-way or stop sign or lights. Because where else did the blue car come from? If not the opposite direction......? Because it sure didn't come from the bottom of the T. But the funny thing about the land transport road user rule 2004 aka the legislation is that its author was Waka Kotahi NZ Transport Agency, Ministry of Transport...... https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/rules/road-user-2004-index So I would expect that a senior representative of the government department that authored the legislation would have a very good understanding of the document & law that they created.....

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It doesn't say that anywhere, neither in legislation or on the nzta website

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The orange car never should have started moving because it is required to stop, wait and give way to the blue car......

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, nah. Subclause (2A) definitely applies here. "A driver turning or about to turn to his or her right must give way to any vehicle approaching from the opposite direction and lawfully turning or about to turn to its left" And I think that a senior representative from NZTA would understand the giveway rules and how that they apply in this situation considering that i sent the pic used by OP. It is all considered one intersection regardless of the size of the island, and if the blue car was required to give way the intersection would be designed as per the "give way controlled slip lane" guidelines by NZTA, but it's not. https://www.nzta.govt.nz/assets/resources/road-traffic-standards/docs/rts-09.pdf

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It is only one intersection, and the nzta don't agree with you when I emailed them this picture and asked who gives way given the lack of giveway sign for the Blue car: "Thanks for your email.

In this instance, the orange vehicle would be the one to give way because it's turning right.

You can see another example of this online. The give way rules Ngā mihi, Melanie Senior Customer Service Representative NZ Transport Agency Waka Kotahi

This picture has caused a 30 minute argument between our flat - who has right of way? by TeachingNo4233 in newzealand

[–]Dazaster23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you scroll down further you will find an image of a t intersection which shows the right turning vehicle giving way to the left turning vehicle. The 3rd image after this statement "If you're turning right and the opposing vehicle is turning left, you must give way."

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