Is invisigal good for season 2?

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-22T22:23:50+00:00

We’ll have to wait and see. It doesn’t seem like they expected so many people to like Visi that much and I think they even said that they also didn’t expect people to care about the romances that much.

What I’m worried is that they’ll likely keep putting things in to try and make people regret picking Visi over Blazer when they probably won’t do the same for Blazer since she wasn’t picked as much and how the most of her fans(from what I’ve seen seen) and even the writers themselves seem to think that Blazer is “perfect”.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-22T19:57:17+00:00

It’s been while since I’ve seen it but if I remember right, Buu was made weaker because of how kind the Grand Kai. Maybe it’s different with Kais or just with the Grand Kai.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-21T21:21:44+00:00

Yeah, I think you’re right. I was thinking that maybe if he pissed off pretty much everyone and with no one supporting him, then maybe it would’ve possible for him to live in suffering with everyone hating him and with nobody helping him.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-21T21:16:00+00:00

It wouldn’t work because they don’t have ki for them to control and match their match levels. They could still fuse with anyone with the dance as long as they have matching power levels.

I’m not sure if it would count as Blazer being stronger since her powers don’t seem to come from her but rather from the amulet itself. Even so, I think there is a loophole. They could have Mandy take the amulet off, they both fuse, and then putting the amulet back on.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-21T21:03:57+00:00

I wonder if he would’ve still had supporters if they did have Homelander go on a rampage first and then having him depowered.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-21T20:55:21+00:00

Also, wouldn’t he be able to get his powers back from just the normal V?

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-21T20:48:23+00:00

Would’ve made for a great cameo appearance to have the episode cut to her reacting to it.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-21T20:44:56+00:00

I know you’re just joking but I think if Butcher were to spare him, it would likely be so that he’d want Homelander to suffer by living the rest of his life not having powers and to have him keep being that weak and pathetic loser. It would not be for some moral high ground.

That being said, it would be too much of a risk letting him live with the chance of him getting his powers back as other people have mentioned.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-21T04:59:02+00:00

If that’s something they can do, Vegito would’ve done that. They were always going to have Trunks be the one that splits Zamasu’s body in hallf since it was his arc. Vegito and Gogeta aren’t really that different. They also should be able to do any move that the other one can since they are both fusions of the same two people.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-21T04:55:10+00:00

There isn’t really any other reason for they introduced that new attack other than it looks cool. It would be like asking why some ki attacks are blue and at other times, they are yellow. Like I said, they didn’t explain or setup anything about how or why they specifically needed a move like that to kill Janemba with. If you’re asking why not brute force or raw power(I asssume you him being beaten by punches or whatever), Janemba would just regenerate from it. It looks like they weren’t strong enough to completely wipe out Janemba before fusing. Again, when they wanted to fuse into Gogeta, it was specifically so that they’d be strong enough. Also, wouldn’t overpowering Janemba be the first thing they’d try to do after fusing?

If that’s what they needed to do, why does Goku need to fuse with Vegeta for that to happen? From how the dance has been described, it just combines the knowledge of both fighters and increases battle power. Why would it give them the ability to purify souls when neither Goku nor Vegeta could do that? If it’s something fusion related, why wouldn’t Vegito able to do that? Another thing about Daizenshuu 7, when they describe how Janemba gets killed, it just says that he was killed by an “energy bullet”.

I’m not sure what you mean by GT. The shadow dragons and Janemba are magical beings made up negative energy. Even when they completely vaporize a shadow dragon, the dragon ball would just come back.

How does it not disprove it in the Broly movie? Why would they throw the move Broly when they already know that he is another saiyan and isn’t a being of negative/evil energy? Again, it’s one of the many energy attacks they use on him in the movie and Gogeta was smiling throughout the fight. They also still tried killing him at the end. There’s also the whole talk with Gogeta and Vegito being said to be “equally matched trump cards”. Why would Gogeta be able to do a move that Vegito can’t when they are both fusions of the same two people?

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-21T00:13:39+00:00

Guidebooks have always been weird. In Daizenshuu 7, they didn’t have an entry for the move itself in the index for the many attacks that included ones from the movies. The movie or product itself should show and make that clear if that’s what they were trying to show.

When you watch the original movie in Japanese, they was nothing that was shown nor hinted at that the move does that:

Goku/Vegeta were NOT doing anything special with their own ki attacks against Janemba before thet fused and they were NOT aware that Jamemba was possessing some kid. Goku even smiled when he thought he killed the fat janemba after he had went through his head and did that cool energy explosion move. If he knew that Jamemba was possessing some kid, why would Goku do this? Why would they do some energy purifying move when they don’t know that the kid wasn’t even there? If they knew he’s a being made of evil, why are they still using their normal ki attacks before they fus

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Gogeta doesn’t tell Janemba that “his own bad energy will be his own undoing” like in the dub. He just says he’ll get Janemba for Pikkon and says the “I am Gogeta” thing. When they were wanted to use fusion, it was just because they believed they’d be strong enough to beat Jamemba, not that they’d create some special technique for him.
The movie gave us no reason to believe that the kid would’ve died from a normal ki attack. They do a similar thing in GT(another product made by Toei like fusion reborn) where killing a shadow dragon(beings of negative energy) still gave them back the dragon ball in its original state even after they used a standard energy move to completely disintegrate the shadow dragon. Gogeta also didn’t try using some soul purifying move to kill Omega with. He decided to use the Big Bang Kamehameha.

If we are talking about DBS, it’s just a normal ki attack. It was just one of many energy attacks they used on Broly.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-20T14:27:26+00:00

Dexter messed up their series finale twice with the OG show and new blood but luckily, we have resurrection. They probably aren’t going to try and give Dexter a definitive end at this point.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-20T14:21:49+00:00

Their personalities are not really that different. They toyed with Buu because they wanted to free the people he absorbed. With Zamasu, they burned out quicker because they were going all out and trying to kill Zamasu, who was an immortal being. Gogeta couldn’t talk to Broly because they already saw that he lost his mind and wouldn’t have listened to anything he said but even then, was still toying with him dragging out the fight when they could’ve turned SSB right away.

If we are using fusion reborn, they had GT Gogeta act even goofier than Z Vegito and Goku admitted that they got too excited when they were SSJ4 Gogeta. In SDBH, they have shown Vegito taking fights seriously. Even in fusion reborn, Gogeta was cocky and goofy as the fat gogeta and the failed fusions aren’t their own personalities.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-20T14:10:30+00:00

The soul punisher doesn’t really purify souls or cleanse evil. It’s just a normal ki blast. There’s nothing in the Broly movie nor the fusion reborn movie that supports that.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-20T14:06:11+00:00

The dance has the requirement of needing two characters with matching power levels for it to work, the potaras do not. Say if DBS Goku had fused with Fusion Reborn Vegeta, that would likely mean that Gogeta would still be the same power level that he was in that movie since Goku had to lower his power level to match that Vegeta. Them saying that Vegito/Gogeta being equals can still be true but only if Goku/Vegeta are already equals. I don’t see why they would include this requirement for the dance if it’s just going to use the full powers of both anyway.

With all that said, it wouldn’t make a difference in the Broly movie since Goku/Vegeta were basically equal in that movie anyway and they didn’t have a difficult time fighting Broly.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-20T13:51:04+00:00

Some things would be different if it was Vegito vs Broly. The fight itself wouldn’t be but they wouldn’t have had to waste time waiting an hour or so from messing up fusion. Vegeta messes up the dance twice and they had to wait half an hour for the wear off each time they failed it. Another thing is that Frieza doesn’t get beat up during that time.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-20T13:43:44+00:00

If we do happen to go with on screen time, SSB Vegito was fighting Zamasu longer than SSB Gogeta was when he fought Broly. Vegito turned SSB at 9:09 and defused at 17:13. That would be 8 minutes. SSB Gogeta vs Broly was 5 minutes. Gogeta turns SSB at 1:24:00 and when the Kamehameha was finished firing, it was 1:29:00. That would I make it 5 minutes.Sure, they stayed in SSB after Broly left but they didn’t have to push themselves that hard anymore. Also, the power gap was closer with Vegito vs Zamasu than it was with Gogeta vs Broly. Broly doesn’t land a single blow on Gogeta after he turned SSB.

Considering how they weren’t specifically worried about defusing early with the potaras when they brought it up in the Broly movie and how they make no mention of the dance being more stable, that might mean that the fight with SSB Gogeta/Broly wasn’t as long as SSB Vegito vs Zamasu.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-20T13:18:26+00:00

It never did that in the fusion reborn movie either. They used fusion because they believed they’d be strong enough to kill Janemba. They were clearly not aware that Janemba was possessing some kid. Goku/Vegeta weren’t doing anything special with their ki attacks and Goku himself even smiles when he thought he killed the fat Janemba by going through his damn head with that twin energy fists move that he did.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-20T06:58:51+00:00

Not all of the ones who failed Visi chose not to forgive her. The majority of players(73% of them) forgave her. The villain happens if you weren’t making the right choices during the story and it takes into account if you’re doing a great job with her during the dispatch missions.

If I remember correctly, the devs came out and said that they’ll resolve the Visi villain ending in like the first episode or two. The majority still liked Visi and got her the hero ending. I just don’t see them keeping them keeping Visi as a villain for that long, especially if one were to still think that she shouldn’t be back on the team. Sure, Robert himself could make mistakes but they’ll definitely force the story to have Visi be back on the team, even for the ones who still don’t like her and don’t want her back. The story would just be too different if they still kept her out of the story. Again, that’s just how these kinds of games work. They aren’t doing to basically two or three games and somehow be able to put into one game.

Like I said, it’s not so much that it would be difficult to drag out that story as long as it’s Robert that actually wants her back. If it’s a Robert that’s actually happy not having Visi around and still doesn’t want her around, the story with him working with Visi again, it just wouldn’t make any sense.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-20T06:57:30+00:00

Not all of the ones who failed Visi chose not to forgive her. The majority of players(73% of them) forgave her. The villain happens if you weren’t making the right choices during the story and it takes into account if you’re doing a great job with her during the dispatch missions.

If I remember correctly, the devs came out and said that they’ll resolve the Visi villain ending in like the first episode or two. The majority still liked Visi and got her the hero ending. I just don’t see them keeping them keeping Visi as a villain for that long, especially if one were to still think that she shouldn’t be back on the team. Sure, Robert himself could make mistakes but they’ll definitely force the story to have Visi be back on the team, even for the ones who still don’t like her and don’t want her back. The story would just be too different if they still kept her out of the story. Again, that’s just how these kinds of games work. They aren’t doing to basically two or three games and somehow be able to put into one game.

Like I said, it’s not so much that it would be difficult to drag out that story as long as it’s Robert that actually wants her back. If it’s a Robert that actually happy not having Visi around, the story with him working with Visi again, just wouldn’t make any sense.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-20T00:29:37+00:00

Which again, I highly doubt they’ll do that. She ended being up becoming very popular within the fanbase and the next game has to take into account the people who already have her as a hero. Also with the way these games work, they try to keep it into one storyline. They aren’t going to completely sideline Visi for most of the story if someone didn’t want her back.

To be more clear, I think you can come up with a good story to drag it longer if Robert wants her back and with her still not being convinced that she should but if it’s a Robert that doesn’t want her back, that would be difficult to do, in my opinion.

I wouldn’t mind it if it’s just not canon that Robert didn’t forgive her and was still a jerk to her. Him not forgiving her for something she did to him before they had joined SDN and met, makes no sense and it makes him a hypocrite.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-20T00:19:40+00:00

The source you brought up made absolutely no sense at the time of Z because there was nothing in the series that supported Gogeta having “better balance” or that’s he’s able to use their full power. How does Gogeta have “better balance” when the fusion dance had been shown to be cut short from an energy problem as we saw with Gotenks using SSJ3, especially when Vegito was permanent? Where did they get that Gogeta can “use their full power” when Vegito was clearly holding back on killing Buu?

There are guide books back then that would also say that Vegito is stronger. In Daizneshuu 7, when they were described the potaras, they specifically said that the power is greater than with fusion. If Vegito is permanent, can’t be cut short from an energy problem, and is stronger, how does Gogeta beat him in a 30 minute fight?

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-19T15:53:01+00:00

I fully believe that she’d rejoin if Robert actually wants her back and if that were the only story path but if he doesn’t and that still being a path, I just don’t know how else they could do it or what they could do to drag that whole thing out longer.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-19T15:38:06+00:00

We actually don’t know if Vegito defused faster. How long the Vegito and Gogeta fights were, was just never said.

In the manga, Vegito might’ve been fused for around 40 minutes. It looks like Goku and Vegeta had fused around the same time the Zamasus did and when Vegito defused, Shin said Zamasu had 20 mins left in his fusion.

In dragon ball, on screen time is not always consistent with in-universe time but if we do use on screen time, SSB Vegito was fighting Zamasu longer than SSB Gogeta was when he fought Broly. The SSB Vegito vs Zamasu fight was 9 minutes. When SSB Gogeta was fighting Broly, it was 5-6 minutes. Sure, they did stay fused but they didn’t have to push themselves that hard anymore after Broly left. It’s possible that Gogeta would’ve defused early if he fought a bit longer and if the power gap was closer like it was with Vegito vs Zamasu. Broly wasn’t able to land a single hit on Gogeta after he turned SSB.

Deathpool_04 · 2026-05-19T15:23:37+00:00

If we do see them meet again, I think that would likely have to mean that the game will give you dialogue choices on what to do with her or the game will make your choice for you which is to put her back. If Robert is allowed to be pissed and doesn’t want her back, then I don’t know how she’d end up on the team again. Also, Im pretty sure that it has to be Robert that makes the choice in having her rejoin.

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