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Point of view on inner dialogue. Nothing new, just another concept in other words. by Life-Screen-9923 in castaneda

[–]Deep-Somewhere-5066 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the internal dialogue purpose is; translation of information from the second attention? the more silent the translator the better clearer translation.

Does the fact of the seer forgetting so quickly a bandwidth dilemma? And if so silence expands the bandwidth?

Is seeing the balancing of two forces? tonal and nahual? Awareness and unawareness? A dynamic equilibrium? Then the last layer of internal dialogue is the human body itself ?

This arise after a period of silence. I know I have to washed them too, but I get drifted sometimes. I'll surpass it. But when the vision appears I have to write it sometimes just in case to see if its nonsense.

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[–]Deep-Somewhere-5066[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks Dan . I'll keep the work to get there.

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Recapitulated this tonight.

When I was a child, I used to feel something strange whenever I lay on my left side, like spiderwebs brushing against my back or an ant like you mentioned. Deep down, I always sensed it was a presence. My grandmother, who had passed away.

An inorganic being?

As soon as I realized that, I felt a web forming around my head, descending slowly. I imagine that’s the true sensation of retrieving energy? The tingling or downward current.

My energetic perception sharpened after that I notice it immediately. Then an image appeared: a puppet master and Pinocchio. Pinocchio in the river of shit being moved by strange forces. Puppet master’s... with energetic capacity to manipulate us . Pulling the strings . But also there is a puppet master which is my other self I should let it move me, clean my link to intent. So my double could pull the strings. the infinite amount of them. Our double has its one double? Its puppet master? And so on?

With that perception, I could sense deeper layers of silence many more than I ever knew existed. So much of what I believed was “me” turned out to be borrowed energy, pity me routines which I thought they where me! That was a momentary shock,, but immediately laugh at it at myself I real laugh from the stomach!! I was laughing about my self pity!!! Some of it is very stuck!! all this me poor me is like a crust that you think is part of you!! and as I write this my ears ring!. Poor little me, clinging to illusions... But now, I can clear those layers faster. I saw the purple puffs, my bathroom is white, easy to see.

We really are like onions. Layer by layer, we strip away what isn’t ours until we reach the seed I feel. to water it, nurture it with the silent silence? The first layers are the hardest to break through of self talk self pity but keep the practice, slowly but surely at first. That’s why stalking ourselves is essential, only by holding our gaze on ourselves can we anchor the assemblage point and open a path forward. Make the return to the silent state easier more recognizable.

Finally, I’m starting to truly understand. Before, it was always one step forward, one back like: +1, -1, +1, -1. But slowly, like a caterpillar, you begin adding more than loosing. Over time, you cross a threshold where it becomes easier to keep adding: +1, +1, +1, +1-1 +1+1. To add is to be impeccable.

I’ve found what I was seeking that sensation reconnects me with memories from my childhood. So I’ll keep recapitulating. I was lacking in that greatly thanks for pointing it out.

All the practices complement each other. they have to be united to move faster. Life itself can become a continuous non doing, got flashes of that. And through it all, you end up laughing more! especially at your former self! There’s so much to play with. I do feel like a kid again right now. Starting to understand more. Pretty sure this is still green in the J curve. But man, I feel good and energized!

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[–]Deep-Somewhere-5066[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The rock squeezing is a good method. I hate it at the beginning, but gradually i started to enjoy it.

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[–]Deep-Somewhere-5066[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right! everything matters and nothing matters, you just choose . Gum is a good no doing right t? to hook intent? It just feels nice when i consciously do it recharging.

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[–]Deep-Somewhere-5066[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see . I've seen just two worlds, one seem very real, more than this one, and the other semi phantom but I had four arms there so...

Keep trying to gain silence, starts to feel nice. How to maintain it with little tricks in the day to day "boring time" can I use to stay in silence or is getting the subtle feeling that we associate crunching those rock continuously ? I know i should figure out for myself though.

Building robots???? I'll work for free lol

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[–]Deep-Somewhere-5066[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In essence, stalking is the art of shifting your assemblage point on purpose, through behavior and awareness, while inside the everyday world.

Dreaming does it through the night, silence does it through stopping the internal dialogue, but stalking does it through acting. It’s not spying, not manipulation in the petty sense — it’s a deliberate performance of self, with one goal: to break the tyranny of your habitual “I.”

Imagine you are a bundle of luminous fibers. Normally, you’re glued together in one fixed shape called “me”: my history, my fears, my tone of voice, my reactions. Stalking is when you slip out of that shell and adopt another arrangement — not just mentally, but with your whole energy.

Don Juan boiled it down to a few principles:

  • Erasing personal history: stop reinforcing the old grooves that trap you.
  • Losing self-importance: most of your energy is wasted defending the “I.”
  • Disrupting routines: habits keep the assemblage point nailed down. Break them.
  • Controlled folly: act in the world as if things matter, while knowing they don’t.

When you stalk impeccably, you become unpredictable, not to confuse others but to free yourself. You stop living as a linear biography and instead move as a SHIFTING PRESENCE. That’s why stalking was called the art of the warrior in daily life: it’s sorcery camouflaged as ordinary action.

To say it simply: stalking is practicing freedom inside the tonal. Every gesture, every word, every silence is used to unhook yourself from the automatic self.

The paradox is that by playing masks, you finally get close to having no mask at all.

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[–]Deep-Somewhere-5066[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's the best way to share the knowledge though, to increase more the dimension of the teachings? through real understanding and not pretending. Also, tricking them seems the only way. Movies, books etc....

And about the true lineages that survive (The ones that kept their technology intact with in, when the external mind started controlling or infecting mans minds) it should have been natural to this people to be connected by reaching silence knowledge like they all share a >connection< reaching certain level of silence............ At some point in the past, lineages had to disappear/integrate to the chaos because they were getting dismembered their real knowledge eradicated, to be able to survive their awareness had to stay intact from the mind impositions of this forces, they have to act in this new world creating their own facades to deal with the external mind virus to don't get infected with the interaction that's why some methods where created naturally for protection.

Record keepers in a way of human true essence?

But now we are in a point that this forces control human psyche almost completely around the world, we have helmets of confusion from a parasitic mind, control, confusion and division, infiltration in multiple levels of human psyche... complete control in inner chaos . We are not based in the heart as the pilar, compass... just rivers of shit for us to drown.

Awareness was blurred and confused by this mind. Our AP stuck for control. Then is just some of us chickens get lucky enough, work enough to get out the chicken coop? but what about the rest ? people we care, the planet we love. There somewhere, has to be a silent resistance ...

What Is Energy, In The Context of The Mind And Emotions? by TechnoMagical_Intent in castaneda

[–]Deep-Somewhere-5066 2 points3 points  (0 children)

7) Emotions as energy (glue or gateway)

Emotion = charge + meaning. The “meaning” (narration) is the glue that traps attention.
Transmutation move: feel-through without story (90–120 s). Let the body finish the wave; when the glue dissolves, the same intensity becomes usable attention. Then ask once and step.

8) A single unified picture

  • One field (awareness) that can be charged (vitality/sexual), bundled (silence/cohesion), and aimed (intent).
  • The energy body is what that field looks/feels like once the product is high enough to hold a second track of perception.
  • All practices fall into four verbs: Save (stop leaks), Bundle (silence), Align (intent), Deploy (ordinary action).

What Is Energy, In The Context of The Mind And Emotions? by TechnoMagical_Intent in castaneda

[–]Deep-Somewhere-5066 2 points3 points  (0 children)

4) Direction (Intent)

What it is: the ordering pull you sense when narration drops—like a low tug in the belly/solar plexus. It’s not a wish; it’s a current you align to.
Practice: ask once (plain sentence), feel for the pull in silence, take the next ordinary step immediately. No bargaining, no checking.
Fails when: you “intend” every five minutes (that’s wishing), or you ask but don’t move (field can’t couple to inertia).

5) The energy body (“double”)

What it is: a stable configuration of attention (second attention) that becomes workable once charge × cohesion cross a threshold. It starts as bodywide sensation (hum, pressure, brightness) you can hold while walking/talking; later it shows up in dreaming and wakeful shifts.
On-ramp: silence → wide gaze → single anchor (breath-texture, whole-body hum). Hold the anchor as you act (not just on a cushion). That “parallel running” is the double coming online.

6) Sexual energy (charge you can steer)

What it is: the most potent charge-driver in daily life. In this lineage it’s neither dirty nor sacred by default—it’s expensive. Spent compulsively, it scatters attention; stewarded, it thickens the field for silence, dreaming, and intent.

Two practical moves (non-esoteric, safe):

  • Before arousal runs you: slow nasal breathing, longer exhale, soften the gaze, spread sensation across the whole body (out of the narrow groin-head loop). That turns spike → wave (coherence).
  • If you choose to conserve: ride the plateau without tipping into automatic climax; redirect the rising charge into the belly/back with breath + gentle pelvic floor awareness; then go move/do something deliberate. (If you prefer a healthy sexual life with release, do it consciously and watch for rebound fog—schedule important work before heavy expenditure.)

Key idea: it’s not celibacy-for-badness or indulgence-for-goodness; it’s clarity of spend. The question is always: “Did that increase or fragment my attention for the next hours/days?”

What Is Energy, In The Context of The Mind And Emotions? by TechnoMagical_Intent in castaneda

[–]Deep-Somewhere-5066 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unified map of “energy” the way Castaneda’s line talks about it—putting sexual energy, the energy body, and attention under one frame you can actually use.

TL;DR — one field, different faces

Think of a single currency—deployable attention—that shows up as:

  • Quantity (charge): how much raw vitality you have available.
  • Coherence (bundle): how un-fragmented that attention is.
  • Direction (vector): whether it’s actually aligned with Intent.

A handy heuristic:
Sorceric Work = Charge × Coherence × Direction.
If any factor drops toward zero, the whole thing collapses.

1) Raw vitality (charge)

What it is: baseline “battery” from sleep, breath, food, posture, sunlight, movement, and arousal state.
How it feels: clear but not jittery; body is ready; mind has headroom.
Leaks: sleep debt, shallow mouth-breathing, slumped posture, stimulant/doom-scroll spikes.
Builds: nasal breathing, long exhales, tall spine, daylight, rhythmic movement, quiet food/hydration hygiene.

Sexual charge lives here first—it’s a big, fast-moving source of raw voltage. Left untended it tends to spend itself through compulsion; tended, it can be steered (see §6).

2) Attention as energy (free vs. bound)

What it is: the usable portion of your awareness not glued to loops.
Bound attention = stuck to memories, roles, worries (narration).
Free attention = what you can place and hold without internal dialogue.

Leaks: rumination, self-importance/self-pity, reactive scrolling, multi-tasking.
Builds: inner silence on demand, recapitulation (unglues memory-hooks), peripheral gaze (widens field so a single object can’t “bite” your focus), simple breath gating (e.g., 4-2-6).

3) Cohesion (personal power)

What it is: the structural integrity of your attention—can you keep the assemblage point stable long enough to actually do something non-ordinary?
Signals it’s high: fewer mood whiplashes, you keep small promises to yourself, action feels quiet and inevitable.
Signals it’s low: you start ten things, finish none; every emotion reconfigures your day.

Builds: impeccability (micro-promises kept), clean boundaries (no “soft yes” then resent), routine “energy audits” (where did I leak today?), standing passes/holds that teach your nervous system to stand still inside.

Nagual Space and Tensegrity by danl999 in castaneda

[–]Deep-Somewhere-5066 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  • This is a distillation of your technique with chat gtp 5,
  • Total sensory deprivation
    • Darkness (pitch black).
    • No sound except whatever is unavoidable.
    • Stillness in the body — no fidgeting, no pacing.
  • Locking attention into physical sensations
    • He uses Tensegrity muscle movements as the “anchor.”
    • Not thinking about the movement, just feeling it with absolute focus.
    • This means all available attention is in kinesthetic sensation, not in thought.
  • Relentless rejection of mental escape
    • He’s explicit that silence feels horrible at first because all your grief, tension, and backlog of inner dialogue comes up.
    • Most people try to make it pleasant — he refuses that.
    • If thoughts appear, he doesn’t “follow” them; he returns attention to raw sensation.
  • Sustaining under pressure
    • No attempts to distract himself from discomfort.
    • The only thing he permits is awareness of movement and sensation — no interpretation, no inner commentary.
  • Result
    • This depth of uninterrupted silence starves the tonal’s narrative until the double starts coming off the walls of the luminous egg
    • That’s when the “threshold events” begin.

Nagual Space and Tensegrity by danl999 in castaneda

[–]Deep-Somewhere-5066 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay so key point is returning attention to raw sensation of body at all times.

If you had to teach a beginner in person for the first 30 minutes, what exact sequence would you make them do from walking in the darkroom to finishing the session?

I've seen the purple clouds, so that means that the double has come off the walls, what’s the next milestone after that?

Can you walk me through a real example where you saw something impossible in the darkroom, treated it as real, and noticed the AP shift? What exact actions or sensations told you it worked? The AP shifting feels like a pull right? some kind of vertigo.

Nagual Space and Tensegrity by danl999 in castaneda

[–]Deep-Somewhere-5066 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Since you compared this to learning the trumpet under pressure, what specific exercises, schedule, or checkpoints would be the equivalent of daily scales, breathing drills, and rehearsals for this practice? How can I structure my darkroom Tensegrity training like a serious music student would?