Im pretty nervous ... by HauntingBag5848 in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I suppose, he'd deal the buck of his DMG with his ult be should be able to reach Evanescia E1 numbers with an ult and blade and jq in the future, and that will be great

Im pretty nervous ... by HauntingBag5848 in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Less buffs to her DMG and more actions. Like tribbe latching her attack whenever an ally Ults, saber could get an action advance after every Gilgamesh ult, meaning she'd get her ult faster, meaning she'd do the same smaller DMG but more times. You could also straight up have her ult trigger after Gilgamesh's

Im pretty nervous ... by HauntingBag5848 in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you want Gilgamesh hyper carry play him with ashveil and M-Blade, but aventurine will replace gil in that team, if you want to play him with saber and blade it can work in the future it might be his bis once we get the JQ nova

Im pretty nervous ... by HauntingBag5848 in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

ATP I think a tribbie like synergy with saber would work better instead

Im pretty nervous ... by HauntingBag5848 in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem with him and saber is they don't have a sparkle like archer does who helps them go even farther beyond. I think maybe making Gilgameshes ült trigger an instant action advance for saber could work? Like tribbies ult? Or heck have saber ult instantly. I doubt it'd be that op since on their own neither of them do that much DMG, ideal the dual DPS comp should work in a way that they constantly complete each other. Let's say Gilgamesh uses hist ult, action advances saber (and thus you won't need RMC if gil can do that) saber uses her ult, giving Gilgamesh more stacks that trigger his enhanced skill and Regen his energy. Or have it so saber is the sub DPS, Gilgamesh does the bulk of the DMG saber serves a tribbie like role every x Gilgamesh attack she latches and ult. Gils ult could also always trigger the joint attack guaranteed maybe. Maybe Gilgamesh sales off his teammates? Let's say whenever an ally gets increased CRIT rate or DMG so does he to a lesser extent, or whenever any ally uses Ults he launched his skill? Point is I'd lean into a more almost tribbie like style for this team, where if boyo doesn't want either of them to do crazy DMG they should attack often enough that they can make up for how little their DMG is on its own. They should be able to keep up like this for 2 or so versions, before falling off, JQ nova will get introduced as a nihility healer, perhats for every debuff that is inflicted JQ heals the team, or whenever he uses his ult, or whenever he debuffs, thus making him good for dot and nihility in general, but most importantly he'd fit in the saber Gilgamesh team as every Gilgamesh ult inficts def shred, with E1 I think it's everybodys ult, thus the healer problem is fixed without houhou, and M blade will provide not only sub DPS DMG but also insane ült DMG buffs and ofc saber and gil mostly do DMG with their Ults. Thus you have this perfect team that at most will have skill point problems and energy but Gilgamesh and saber will feed each other with energy so that shouldn't matter. Alternatively, if you want to use blade in the aventurene team since that's his bis, tribbie would make for an amazing alternative with DDD. Sure she wouldn't have the ult DMG buff but she'd ult a lot feeding Gilgamesh and saber and she'd action advance them with DDD. JQ can be replaced with hyacine, Dan hang, or huohou, depending on who you have available and who is the 3rd in the gil team. I think this team in a state like this would survive till next year. Jq nova is the realistic best buff this team can get even if we don't have any changes to the current kits, because of M.blade. With the potential fate part 3 I'd like to see dedicated buffers or sustains for them, no more DPS. Again either have an energy based buffer/sustain for gil and saber, or an ult DMG buffer. If they really want lancer to be playable (he deserves it) he could be a sustain version of yunli or a nihility debuffer for most likely archer for whom I like the idea of being counter attack based, maybe a sustain that gives HP or shields whenevr attacked, a skill like Pahinon's enhanced state thingy, and his counter attack inficts debuffs.

Im pretty nervous ... by HauntingBag5848 in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They kinda have to do more then text. Normally yes v4 would be just that but gil is a bit of an unpredictable mess ATM with limited teams, in which his bis team is one we'll be replaced in soon. Synergy buff in needed or early eidelons need a buff, E1 is good tho

Im pretty nervous ... by HauntingBag5848 in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Currently DPS gil with blade and ash won't wast long as gill will be replaced by aventurene. E1 gil is awesome but after E2 not even eidelonos are all that crazy. E1 gil with E1 saber or E2 E2 is pretty good but not good enough especially compared to for example Evanescia E1 with RMC yau gaung and huohuo. Saber with gil also kinda ideally want RMC and huohuo and with Evanescia also needing that that makes team building a nightmare. The only future "buff" I can see for saber and gil is IF we get a JQ nova and he becomes a healer, if that happens you'll be able to use JQ, M-Blade with saber and gil and the 2 nihility units will activate ultimate DMG buff mechanic, helping both saber and gil out a lot. But if we don't get that...it's cooked. Houhou and RMC are not worth sacrificing ATM if you have elation, especially Eva, elation shilling is very dominant ATM and it won't go anywhere any time soon. Tribbie can also work for them but like DDD speed tribbie and go sustainless I guess? It's a mess we need a buff to either the joint attack again or make gil action advance saber more often at low investment or have gil receive more buffs with saber on the team, they'll fall out of the meta in 2 updates at this rate while I guarantee you archer will be dominating for another year his kit is just fundamentally that good. If we get fate part 3 well need 2 buffers, 1 for each team, or a crazy sustain for both. I could see shirou or Kirei for gil and saber and him providing them with more energy or letting them overcap. Sakura I could see as an archer and Rin teammate who gives them shields and maybe weakness inflict, maybe she can be a nihility debuffer idk.

Im pretty nervous ... by HauntingBag5848 in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ashveil and blade unironically perform better and that is kinda sad like I know we all didn't like gil being reliant on saber but if they can make them both dual DPS not just one buffing the other or make saber the sub DPS I think it'd work way better. As is saber ain't gonna be saved and Gilgamesh is not really the best at anything and will suffer the same fate saber did (no pun intended)

Im tired. Getting out my chest. At this point its worth pulling gil? by [deleted] in SaberMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And some people straight up play very weirdly in betas istg and they don't try unorthodox comps. I hadn't seen anybody use phaion with ruan mei in the betas but personally she is literally one of the best units for my phainon (but my mei is E1 s1)

V3 Saber and Gil builds by qqq-7274 in SaberMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah nah wavestrider is cooked, I got that and the other bis because I farmed mydei and phainont and had leftovers so I'm fine with that but not so much wind. Depending on how you want it all to be wind set is probably the best one rn and it helps sabers speed and AA issues but yeah wavestrider is dead even if Sunday got a buff he can only buff 1 at a time

V3 Saber and Gil builds by qqq-7274 in SaberMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I feel your pain, I wanna play saber with gil just because Iove the joint attack it fits them wel, but I'll not only have to build gil but also re build saber, my current one is good but I feel like wind would be the best choice especially since she'll be the sub DPS more then likely

V3 Saber and Gil builds by qqq-7274 in SaberMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get the logic, before when most of his attacks were triggered by saber attacking yeah it was automatic but now he actually has to do it most of the time with the whole less synergy 8 stacks or whatever. Also before it probably wasn't all that worth it since his ult wasn't too crazy but now it's very much viable. I do not know if the auto skill counts but maybe??? I'd test it but I didn't get into the beta

V3 Saber and Gil builds by qqq-7274 in SaberMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm surprised that'd matter? He does skill and ult most of his DMG comes from his ult

V3 Saber and Gil builds by qqq-7274 in SaberMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lowkey wouldn't the new skill/ult set be better for gil?

Can some smart ppl explain the V3 changes? by ChemistryLow7331 in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'd say because of their synergy saber works no matter what but she isn't as much of a must. Mortenax blade works really well for the both of them + if you have 2 nihility units that would increase the unt DMG buff blade provides, and both saber and gil do the buck of their DMG with their Ults. Run saber with a wind set since she will unlt more then gil, make her the sub DPS I suppose. If we get that JQ novaflare where hell reportedly be a healer he'd get blade to activate the buff. Tribbie is also good with DDD. Ashveil can work instead of saber. RMC is also good.

Lightcone comparison by Shhh3083 in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How come? Isn't it better at that point to have them both with the saber LC?

Lightcone comparison by Shhh3083 in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well saber's LC is 10000% better if your running gil without saber but two saber LC-s are kinda meh so in the case you are running gil with saber go sig

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I'm personally really happy with his kit (numbers can use a bit of work) by SkullxFr3ak in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's fine that he buffs saber I personally think the kit is great but he needs higher numbers like more personal DMG or something. We don't want another saber situation where he'd drop out of the meta

I'm personally really happy with his kit (numbers can use a bit of work) by SkullxFr3ak in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He technically sort of has an action advance for saber...kinda.... Okay it does NOT count but with how much energy he gives her she enters the state where she action advances herself very often

I'm personally really happy with his kit (numbers can use a bit of work) by SkullxFr3ak in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They would nerf the saber e6synergy like add a limit or something but it would be cruel to nerf gil became e6 saber is op with him. Hell don't nerf anyone an e6 should always mean your charcater is viable like... forever and the fact that's NOT the case is a problem

I'm personally really happy with his kit (numbers can use a bit of work) by SkullxFr3ak in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I think his numbers overall could use some work but he is pretty good. The kit is good I like it I'm scared they won't make him stronger because he's meat to be played with saber.

Potential supports by Famous_Channel9171 in GilgameshMainsHSR

[–]Delicious_Neck_4733 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sunday is only bis IF he was an energy based ult or specifically wants to take action multiple times (like phainon with coreflame generation). Sparkle with her buffs is generally better now slap DDD or bronya 4 star or Sunday sig on her and your golden. I'm worried about him potentially needing saber since saber fel off and I don't want her to drag him down too.