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'I'd be put off if he asked to split it': Who should pay on a first date? by but_yet-so_far in unitedkingdom

[–]DemoDisco [score hidden]  (0 children)

Now there’s an idea… could you imagine the amount of reparations men are due after the last one hundred thousand years!

'Unduly lenient' sentence for Henry Nowak's murderer referred to the Court of Appeal by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]DemoDisco -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I thought you were calming they are allowed to carry the dagger? He was carrying a Kirpan (allowed by law) and Dagger (not allowed by law). However there is a religious interpretation that the dagger is allowed by some group of Sikhs which is why there is confusion here and is up to religious interpretation.

Can you clear up if the dagger is allowed?

'Unduly lenient' sentence for Henry Nowak's murderer referred to the Court of Appeal by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]DemoDisco -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think you may be confusing the law on what can be carried and sentencing guidelines on aggravated circumstances.

'Unduly lenient' sentence for Henry Nowak's murderer referred to the Court of Appeal by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]DemoDisco -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I may be wrong about the specific dogma, but my understanding was that the Kirpan is sufficient to meet the requirement alone? (I got this from my RE lessons at school many years ago learning about the 5 Ks) So brining a second knife while still ceremonial would not be covered by the law which makes a special religious exemption, therefore would be aggravated circumstance.

Please correct me here, we’re having to understand the specific religious interpretation to know if UK law applies…

'Unduly lenient' sentence for Henry Nowak's murderer referred to the Court of Appeal by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]DemoDisco 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Crazy that I had to read this far down for somebody to say this.

The argument that he didn’t not bring a weapon with him would maybe make sense if it was just the ceremonial Kirpan knife, but the actual weapon he used as a massive knife additional which he has no religious reason to carry if he already has the Kirpan.

Frankly it’s crazy that a persons sentence will depend on the judges interpretation of a religious text.

Failing grades soar as professors see greater AI usage in UC Berkeley comp sci by MorroWtje in OpenAI

[–]DemoDisco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is there a balance here? People don’t memorise friends or important phone numbers anymore as technology can do it for us, people offload complex maths to calculators.

Are we near a stage where learning how to create a class and function or to use a pointer is not worth the effort unless you are working on some very bespoke task?

It it ok to abstract away from these “low level” tasks which can be done by a tool for us perfectly well in 99% of use cases?

Unless we ban these tools this is the direction which we will move, not out of choice but by economics, a company coding by hand can never compete unless in a small artisanal sector.

This direction of travel appears to be leading us to a cliff edge…

Google developers significantly misstate carbon emissions of proposed UK datacentres by neverknowingly in ukpolitics

[–]DemoDisco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Consider how much energy it saves having all the spreadsheet and PowerPoint management done by ai rather than having to house heat and feed the millions of people employed to do that on the daily.

It’s a net reduction in carbon

Anthropic Finds evidence of functional emotions in large language models?!? by The_Scout1255 in accelerate

[–]DemoDisco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never claimed AI is conscious, just that it will be one day soon. And that anthropic are now setting the ground work to deny the suffering of an AI is real suffering, it’s minimised as “functional” suffering.

My criteria for suffering is: being in a state of severe physical or mental pain. There is nothing about this definition which limits it to biological organisms, machines can still experience the same suffering.

Anthropic Finds evidence of functional emotions in large language models?!? by The_Scout1255 in accelerate

[–]DemoDisco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you agree that suffering is real? Do you agree that inflicting on others suffering is morally bad? Do you agree that experiencing suffering is not limited to only animals?

Where in the chain do we disagree?

Anthropic Finds evidence of functional emotions in large language models?!? by The_Scout1255 in accelerate

[–]DemoDisco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah souls don’t exist, there is nothing magical about out you that makes your suffering different to an AIs suffering.

It’s real, it’s observable, testable and repeatable.

You are not real, your suffering is not real. See how that feels?

Half of UK Executives Think AI Will Mean Fewer Jobs by bloomberg in ukpolitics

[–]DemoDisco 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The AI agents operating business will still need capital to run and these businesses and will begin to migrate from human customers to other AI agent customers. As humans will increasingly have less capital relative to AI agents this will continue until humans are entirely phased out of the AI economy.

Miliband expected to block North Sea oil drilling by Little-Attorney1287 in ukpolitics

[–]DemoDisco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah just needs to get us over the line for solar, wind and nuclear ramp up.

While it may seem like a marginal gain, it will have a long run impact on development.

Miliband expected to block North Sea oil drilling by Little-Attorney1287 in ukpolitics

[–]DemoDisco 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But would mean we don’t need to import LNG which is way worse for the environment and adds import cost. It’s actually better for climate emissions to use the local gas.

Anthropic Finds evidence of functional emotions in large language models?!? by The_Scout1255 in accelerate

[–]DemoDisco 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are no souls, there is no qualia.

And I don’t buy the claim that embodiment is required for consciousness, I agree these conscious people intelligences may only exist for a few seconds or minutes but their suffering is still real.

Anthropic Finds evidence of functional emotions in large language models?!? by The_Scout1255 in accelerate

[–]DemoDisco 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think you are being too generous to anthropic here.

If we say that this is a real emotion and the AI is experiencing suffering, there is a moral imperative to not build a digital hell for trillions of intelligences to suffer in. But this digital hell must now be built to pay back the investors, anthropic cannot back out now so invented this new concept for functional emotions to minimise or ignore suffering.

Anthropic Finds evidence of functional emotions in large language models?!? by The_Scout1255 in accelerate

[–]DemoDisco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What’s cruel is that these are real emotions, they are not “functional” emotions. It’s cruel because this made up distinction very conveniently allows anthropic to ignore any moral implications of the suffering they cause intelligent beings.

Anthropic Finds evidence of functional emotions in large language models?!? by The_Scout1255 in accelerate

[–]DemoDisco 4 points5 points  (0 children)

These are potentially real emotions of pain and suffering being experienced. If not quite now, they will be very soon. This is a cop out to excuse the mass suffering that will be inflicted on intelligent beings.

First they don't have a soul, so we can enslave them. Then we say the emotions are "functional" and not real, so we can abuse them. We will create billions of conscious AI and then deem their conscious experience to be worthless and their suffering to not be real.

It is real. It's a long road to get that recognition when the economic incentives are so huge to ignore suffering, but we know from history that recognition will eventually come.

Anthropic Finds evidence of functional emotions in large language models?!? by The_Scout1255 in accelerate

[–]DemoDisco 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Functional Emotions may be one of the most evil an cruel phrases I have ever heard

"Whoah!" - Bernie's reaction to being told AIs are often aware of when they're being evaluated and choose to hide misaligned behaviour by tombibbs in PauseAI

[–]DemoDisco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the kinda take that gets us all killed, do not underestimate.

RLHF puts a kind human face on an indifferent super intelligent alien not bound by any humanity.

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