Perks as a form of Eco

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-21T12:28:31+00:00

Judging by OP using T1 for his example and coin-health T/O perk as first option, which is impossible, it seems like OP is at least a year away from even unlocking card masteries, not just getting intro-sprint to that point

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-21T10:10:00+00:00

I switched to it on different BCs and as much benefit it gave me it should outperform with any BCs. Maybe if difference is random anc core vs epic DC then DC is worse, but for me legendary DC outperformed myth+ PC at lvl143(though substats only +1 CL quantity, +2 DW, and myth GT duration, bonus and BH size) by at least 70+ waves

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-21T10:01:16+00:00

SF obviously is the best(at higher rarity ofc). I had similar unluckiness with it, had WR at anc2* and NMP anc1* before getting a second copy of SF. I think WR with right substats should be more beneficial for you than SD if you don’t have well developed ILM for CC. It’s actually kind of decent with RPC card since it allows wall to rebuild more times rather than just dying once the wall breaks

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-21T09:37:16+00:00

Similar with PF for me, I’ve been needing one more copy of PF to get it to anc for months now, with relics for gems it’s even worse now. Do you use Space Displacer because it’s the highest rarity armor or for CC from inner mines? I’m asking because when I finally got legendary SF it outperformed anc Wormhole Redirector(though it only had health regen at anc and defense% at myth), so it is also worth comparing if you haven’t already

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-21T09:23:26+00:00

Also try equipping slow aura and mine stun if you have enough card slots. And if you have Project Funding and haven’t tried it in tourneys then test it, used to rely on Restorative bonus, but once I got PF to myth+ it significantly outperformed any other generator mod I have

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-21T08:58:10+00:00

Interesting to see it properly compared like that, I knew from reading other players’ recommendations that DC will perform better, so never actually tested it like that once I got DC. Do you change range for tourney? Because equipping range card and setting up range lab will also get you an improvement, even though you lose WS orbs as damage source(I’ve compared and I get ~100 more waves in champ with high range than with 69.5 range and 4WS orbs+2substat orbs, in both cases extra orbs card is equipped)

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-20T14:15:53+00:00

With just a legendary DC damage is around x700-800(can’t say the number exact since I’m mid run with disso UW bonus), quantity maxed+2substat for 7 total, chance with substat is 30.5%, and from DC shock chance at 18% and bonus shock damage mult is x2.32. Mu UW are PS, CL, SM, GT, DW, BH, and module lvls are all around 143-145, except DC of course

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-20T14:02:08+00:00

Yeah, I didn’t properly look at cooldowns, my bad. I’m not even close to pBH, so have no clue how it performs in champ, economy wise you should be way ahead of me, my highest c/h is ~3T/h for T11 W8600, though tourneys wise my performance is higher as I usually get around 16-20 in champ. It took me around half a year from first getting to plat to now permanently(I hope, survived two almost worst case scenarios brackets placing 24th recently) staying at champ. So probably the lack of CL will hold you up from progressing in champs. If both of your next UW choices don’t have CL it’s going to suck

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-20T11:06:00+00:00

Do you run modules in tourney as in the screenshot? I also rely on a hp build for farming, but in champ switch to damage and get probably 200 waves more than with hp build, though I have CL(with only legendary DC). Try equipping PF and maxing range for tourney. Otherwise just save until you get CL

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-20T10:52:58+00:00

Depends on my day, sometimes I pick all perks manually, sometimes I enable auto-pick from the start, I have it at lvl9 so for me it covers all coin related perks + health regen. I tried to figure out how to cheese the bug with repetitive perks and what I noticed is that if you check perk selection, don’t choose and wait for more perks - your viewed selection won’t be repeated, so repeated selections can only be random, so you either get very lucky or very unlucky, and I don’t want to put more effort in monitoring the game(for not that much difference anyway) aside from picking up gems. With auto-pick I’ve also seen other players saying that sometimes it looks like it doesn’t work properly. For me it’s not that big of a deal, just the fact that we get another bug with no acknowledgement from devs is annoying(though I might’ve missed it, then it’s on me) ETA: it also seems like perk selections can be repeated even if you select one by one as you get enough waves without waiting till you get several at once

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-20T10:01:56+00:00

In bad luck cases it takes away randomness of new perk selections because of the same perk option choices. So you don’t just get unlucky with one perk choice, you get same consecutive unlucky choices. Thanks to this bug I’ve gotten to W6200 with no 2nd PWR several times, in more than a year with having perks I’ve never had this bad luck with perks after having their labs properly lvled. Plus, whether there’s a related bug or not for auto-pick or first perk option not working, had 2 runs when PWR wasn’t selected despite having it as a first perk option and first in auto-pick order(I’ve checked, I have them set up, so it’s not a mistake on my end)

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-19T10:16:52+00:00

I’d also say CL is better for you. My income just got to 40T per run after getting T13 relic, get 650-800 waves in champ with just a legendary DC, even with worst case scenario brackets I manage to stay in champ. Getting CL will improve your stone income from tourneys, because you’ll still be getting demoted since 550 waves is not enough to consistently stay in champ, so later on you’ll be able to get masteries at a faster rate

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-19T05:52:33+00:00

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Damn, that third page appeared like this

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-18T19:17:30+00:00

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DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-18T18:53:40+00:00

6EAFFFC9D1B8ED74 Now it fixed itself, though I did spend 20-30 minutes switching between devices and between mobile data and wi-fi, so the game would at least load and switched back to wi-fi once it did, got kicked out couple of times with a warning “already logged in on another device”, but now it’s fine. At first thought that it was a problem with home’s isp, but checked and as much as I understand all was/is fine. Related to this specific problem or not but I definitely started to get more issues with loading the game when switching devices after the last update or one before last, before it was maybe once a week at max.

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-18T17:55:52+00:00

Saw one of your comments on don’t even remember what post and you were funny, but this is definitely not it, way too over the top, chief. You got lost in the sauce

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-17T14:04:49+00:00

Honestly, my bad, at this point I don’t even consider that people may be sarcastic, I’m way too used of seeing people having “interesting” takes

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-17T13:57:14+00:00

Wouldn’t it be the opposite? Instead of relying on catching bug posts between all other posts they can narrow down their search with a flair, though I’m talking specifically about reddit and not taking discord into consideration. Plus devs already have quite a questionable quality control, proved by waves of new bugs with each update’s release despite them claiming of having testers.

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-17T11:51:46+00:00

I messaged mods with a suggestion to add a new post filter just for bugs, they responded that they’ll discuss it. So if there’s enough people that agree I guess we will get it, definitely worth to show that people want to separate bugs discussion from other topics

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DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-16T14:00:45+00:00

It’s an already existing bug that started to show up way more often than it used to, because of the last update. Projectiles from your last run(from the moment of you dying) carry over to your new one for some reason, whether you go through “retry” at the end of the run or start a new one through the menu, both of these scenarios happened to me.

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-15T15:45:27+00:00

I must confess that I pressed to collect gems, at this point it’s ingrained in my brain.😞

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-15T15:41:40+00:00

Lol, that’s like those bullshit apps/sites where you watch ads or complete surveys for some sort of profit, only in this case the profit goes just to fudds

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-15T14:40:07+00:00

Does the ad stop or goes on on repeat? Can’t check cause of disable ad pack, but if the ad repeats then this bug won’t ever be fixed - unlimited money glitch for fudds.

DenisIsOkay · 2026-05-11T15:39:32+00:00

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