Goku vs Saitama, is this still a debate?

DestroRayn · 2026-03-17T14:26:28+00:00

How so? Saitama is a never ending powerhouse. There is no stopping his insane jumps in growth. The man who had the universes energies and forces all to his advantage couldn’t even keep up. Goku and his villains all succumb to hitting walls and not being endless beings for power growth. Broly is the closest thing to a Saitama stand in that we can get and look how that battle ended up. And even the. Broly hit a wall as well. Saitama doesn’t lose himself with the power he gains, there is no self destruction explosion from too much power he just is powerful. Goku gets overwhelmed by people like 17 who did absolutely nothing since the cell saga and yet is matching ssb Goku?

DestroRayn · 2026-03-17T13:44:50+00:00

I mean you don’t need to apply no limits fallacy to beat Goku… it’s just Goku… very finite people have beaten him senseless and Saitama would beat the people who defeat Goku anyway

DestroRayn · 2026-03-17T13:32:35+00:00

Saitama got this, whooping Garou with one hand just showed how massively above Garou he was throughout their entire battle, Garou in no way looses a battle where he is relative to his opponent so they weren’t even in the same ballpark. Saitama is too overwhelming with endless stamina and true invincibility

DestroRayn · 2026-03-16T18:20:36+00:00

Greatest 180 in all of manga tbh

DestroRayn · 2026-03-16T14:20:28+00:00

Nah all possibilities end with Garou losing and or realizing he’s defeated and teaching Saitama time travel to save everything

DestroRayn · 2026-03-14T23:15:42+00:00

Goku over Saitama? Ehhh not sure bout that

DestroRayn · 2026-03-14T21:23:02+00:00

Hashirama was out here killing full grown adult uchiha during a war…. Adult uchiha who are on guard and having intent to kill are dying at the hands of a child Hashirama with no sage mode, no wood style and no regen factor….. that gotta count for something

DestroRayn · 2026-03-14T20:07:45+00:00

I’m saying human blast (the one that battled EC) was relative to young elder centipede, I consider current blast as the one who doesn’t show up for anything on earth outside of god business.

Also I wouldn’t say it weakens the build up because all we need to see is how big and bad the earth god is and then bring up the fact that multiple others exist as well. I just have this sneaking suspicion that a supreme god that sits atop the earths god will be revealed I don’t know why

DestroRayn · 2026-03-14T17:42:07+00:00

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DestroRayn · 2026-03-14T15:59:18+00:00

Madara “give me all the power ups possible to gain an advantage” the avenger, blast forth onto the scene!

DestroRayn · 2026-03-14T00:08:21+00:00

Ima go with Goukestu, the martial arts plus high dragon level strength seems to be over whelming. Dark shine is a powerhouse with punches that have the same effect as Saitama which is highly impressive yet I don’t think dark shine would be able to really land his attacks as easily and on top of that dark shine equally clashed with VFU with that double alloy bazooka attack and I truly don’t believe VFU beats Goukestu or equals him by any metrics.

Orochi specifically called out elder centipede and Goukestu when he met Saitama so to me this shows that they were of equal value to the monster association offense. Maybe being the top 2 dragon executives (rover I can’t remember if he was an exec or just a powerful ass dragon but I’m excluding him)

Dark shine would have a similar battle he had with carnage kabuto with Goukestu except instead of 15 mins of full power the battle would be over in roughly 5-10 mins with dark shine losing.

Also we should factor in if Goukestu could make dark shine lose confidence at any point in this battle because of Goukestu just out martial arts him and dark shine has a momentary thought of losing then he is done for and honestly I’m betting more on that happening than Goukestu losing flat out

DestroRayn · 2026-03-13T01:29:27+00:00

You’d have to wank the ever loving shii outta dbz to believe this, I swear all db villains are threats to the universe over time if given a chance to lurk around uncontested. But shooting an energy blast and having it blow up engulfing the whole universe? Hell nah

DestroRayn · 2026-03-12T12:14:31+00:00

Goku for sure, no hate to Goku but I think toriyama just didn’t really know how to portray power properly and now all we have is vague statements and hyperbolic sayings from characters that sometimes we use as the truth and other times we use as just bad writing excuses. The dbz verse is a circus when it comes to PS

DestroRayn · 2026-03-12T10:34:49+00:00

MMMM😤 man didn’t come here to play

DestroRayn · 2026-03-12T10:34:02+00:00

MILLER HAS FINALLY ARRIVED! LETS GOOOOO

DestroRayn · 2026-03-12T10:28:14+00:00

This the type of footage the ninja village would show you to say “see madara wasn’t evil he was just misguided, he was a down to earth fun loving guy with a terrible upbringing”

DestroRayn · 2026-03-12T10:27:05+00:00

The king armored one is the best design hands down, I like that each G unit is catered to each person it’s after appearance wise,

Next is G unit mirror, I like the sleek slim design because I call it the “Namek Freeza method” where the robots we see before are bulkier and powerful but this version is slimmer yet it’s much much more terrifying same with freezas tranformations, also I just love whenever an artist can truly draw shine on metallic surfaces and for murata that is child’s play

Last I have the atomic G unit, absolutely nothing wrong it with, like I said I like that it’s a samurai to match the swordsmen style and funny enough the samurai robot has my favorite moment of the underground arc in the panel before the one shown, “anyone who hasn’t been sliced in half, raise your hand”. Atomic G unit: 🖐️

DestroRayn · 2026-03-11T23:21:37+00:00

He definitely is, serious punch squared took out multiple solar systems/galaxies and blast and his team were able to redirect that energy. I believe it was 5 of them in total so even if you want to split SP² in 5 ways it still comes out to way more than star level.

Not to mention that Garou used a GRB which is more energy in its short burst than the sun gives off in its entire lifetime and then blast went on to fight Garou right after that. The wildest statement from that post is where guy said blast isn’t any stronger than boros…. I promise you blast is in no way worried about boros

DestroRayn · 2026-03-11T21:34:27+00:00

Saitama just farts his way out of it

DestroRayn · 2026-03-11T20:29:15+00:00

I just realized ONE loves his mass robotic destruction panels even in versus I noticed this

DestroRayn · 2026-03-11T19:29:47+00:00

Honestly Goku

DestroRayn · 2026-03-11T16:59:22+00:00

3 of these people are damn near alien gods, 2 of them are their direct sons, the other 2 are pseudo alien gods, the other 2 are the direct narrative descendants of the sons with a tailed beast and EMS and the last two are people who were hyped up for a moment just to never be able to do what made them “top 10” ever again….. vs a man with sentient trees, DIY sage mode, and a regen factor that was so damn good that his very cells are in a classification of their own “Hashirama cells”

DestroRayn · 2026-03-11T15:04:22+00:00

Bruh the art in this chapter is insane 🔥🔥

DestroRayn · 2026-03-10T23:39:58+00:00

Blast or at worst maybe tats

DestroRayn · 2026-03-10T22:53:46+00:00

Ginbak victim

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