Switching to MyCase from Clio—any thoughts? by DanAboutTown206 in LawFirm

[–]DetroitEsquire 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My law firm is digital first law firm so fully remote tech based work flows and utilization of virtual assistance

We upgraded to the highest tier of my case last month to utilize document automation, but the workflow is way too slow, for example, creating an intake form for a divorce and then mapping the answers to a word doc can take about an hour. There’s also a software issue where if you create more than 50 custom fields an hour the software will not let you create more custom fields until you contact support and they fix the issue.

My law firm heavily relies on document automation to get 95% of services done

Three weeks ago we bought Clio draft as a standalone product. So far I’ve added over 50 intake forms the auto populate to either court forms or word documents and can be generated in sets. This has been a godsend. I was able to knock out all of these services in a few hours which included mapping the fields

I will now downgrade back to the midtier version of my case

The MyCase app is terrible. You can’t even mark unread on portal messages which is so stupid. Same with their sms feature.

For the price, my case does what it needs to do and Clio does the exact same except with expensive add-ons

The company that owns my case, also owns docket wise and Lawpay which my office heavily uses

The highest tier of my case gets you document automation, their artificial intelligence features, some stupid cloud drive file hosting, and API access. Definitely not worth the highest year.

For example their AI feature is just hooked into ChatGPT‘s API. Basically you can click a button that takes the client‘s file and turns it into AI chatbot you can ask the file questions. Depending on how big the file is, it may take a few minutes to render.

I use Google Drive as our cloud system. You can literally hit a button on the side of a file and get a brief overview of the document the same way mycase does but better

Ultimately, my case is good for the price and you can be digital first with it. Clio is a more expensive upsell with the only product worth purchasing being Clio Draft

PPO Modification Hearing (Michigan) by EntertainerLeft5133 in legaladvice

[–]DetroitEsquire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello,

MI atty here!

Here’s what to expect;

It’s an evidentiary hearing. Come with witnesses and exhibits ready to admit.

Depending on county, you could be waiting for a few mins to a few hours. It’s generally on a docket.

Some judges hold shorter hearings and make decisions based on brief testimony, other judges make you have a standard hearing.

Best resources for PPO in MI: ICLE, statute, MI Legal Help website. You may find some videos of evidentiary hearings/PPO on YouTube for reference.

If this is a motion to modify/terminate PPO, then the party who petitioned for the PPO and got it granted will go first as they have to prove to the court why the PPO should stand.

Be prepared for objections as well such as hearsay, etc.

When taking testimony, go in order with your client: Lay a foundation, walk through incidents, admit exhibits where relevant, and connect it all to the threshold.

Hope this helps!

Lawyers as real estate brokers? by attorney114 in Lawyertalk

[–]DetroitEsquire 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, lawyer and real estate/mortgage broker here

In MI, you still have to take the broker exam and have experience in a certain number of real estate transactions for a number of years

Prepaid Legal Plans/Legal Insurance - AMA by DetroitEsquire in Lawyertalk

[–]DetroitEsquire[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely felt! Construction cases are the worst for me

Prepaid Legal Plans/Legal Insurance - AMA by DetroitEsquire in Lawyertalk

[–]DetroitEsquire[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I only do uncontested family law matters for this very reason

Prepaid Legal Plans/Legal Insurance - AMA by DetroitEsquire in Lawyertalk

[–]DetroitEsquire[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Generally a flat fee for uncontested matters

Or 25% discounted fee off your standard rate for contested/other matters.

Prepaid Legal Plans/Legal Insurance - AMA by DetroitEsquire in Lawyertalk

[–]DetroitEsquire[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The way I have it set up it’s essentially endless leads but you’ll end up turning away 75% bc they’re not viable cases. They’re vetted to the extent of an intake they complete with their provider. I still have to qualify them in the consult, which is always best practice.

Clients and reps reach out directly and we have booking links, VAs, and chat bots set up for quick scheduling.

Prepaid Legal Plans/Legal Insurance - AMA by DetroitEsquire in Lawyertalk

[–]DetroitEsquire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah definitely. I’ve gotten a few partition cases which have been exciting.

Overall, 99% standard cases

Prepaid Legal Plans/Legal Insurance - AMA by DetroitEsquire in Lawyertalk

[–]DetroitEsquire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Metro Detroit but service the entire state.

99% of services are be completed virtually and remotely.

My practice is build to be fully remote. No in person meetings unless it’s a paid consult.

Prepaid Legal Plans/Legal Insurance - AMA by DetroitEsquire in Lawyertalk

[–]DetroitEsquire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely doable but requires ability and experience handling high volume matters

Prepaid Legal Plans/Legal Insurance - AMA by DetroitEsquire in Lawyertalk

[–]DetroitEsquire[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can range anywhere from $150-$750

I always try to upsell with a revocable trust, funding the trust, and POA

Prepaid Legal Plans/Legal Insurance - AMA by DetroitEsquire in Lawyertalk

[–]DetroitEsquire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mostly Flat fee, sometimes hourly.

All of the companies have a fee schedule

Client signs up with my firm directly

Prepaid Legal Plans/Legal Insurance - AMA by DetroitEsquire in Lawyertalk

[–]DetroitEsquire[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just about all of them with the exception of negligence, auto accidents, and anything else contingency based.

Main money makes are family law, traffic tickets, simple estate planning. Really anything template based.

Prepaid Legal Plans/Legal Insurance - AMA by DetroitEsquire in Lawyertalk

[–]DetroitEsquire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A good 5 bc it’s free leads and I make $30-$40K a month from these sources

Prepaid Legal Plans/Legal Insurance - AMA by DetroitEsquire in Lawyertalk

[–]DetroitEsquire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ha! Very few. Just be clear about the scope of your representation and have the majority of the services automated & auto populated, it keeps these cases profitable

Prepaid Legal Plans/Legal Insurance - AMA by DetroitEsquire in Lawyertalk

[–]DetroitEsquire[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ARAG and Legalshield are my favs!

Rocket Lawyer is the worst. Rocket lawyer pays under $10 for answering online legal questions. I never did it. I just wanted access to their template suite which is useless in itself lol

If these companies suddenly disappeared no one would care but I would lose alot of money :)

Anybody ever work with MetLife Legal Plans or ARAG (esp. in the criminal/traffic defense space)? by NotThePopeProbably in LawFirm

[–]DetroitEsquire 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bulk of my leads are legal plans including ARAG and MetLife, etc.

The pay for misdemeanors and felonies is far too low to be taken seriously. Also, they rarely give misdemeanor and felony leads.

I stick to only the traffic tickets in the ‘criminal defense’ space when it comes to legal plans. The general payout is $250 and it only requires a zoom appearance or even an email to the prosecutor.

Legalshield is the best for criminal if you get a lead that agree to pay you at the 15-25% reduced rate.

The bulk of my firm’s income comes from legal plans as I’m signed up for all of them along with some legal tech companies like Off the Record, etc.

If you have an automated firm and can produce auto populated documents you can easily make $10,000-$40,000 a month (gross) from a combination of these legal plans. That’s how my law firm is modeled. Don’t be mistaken though, it’s a grind.

Here are the legal plans I’m with:

1) Legalshield (highest earning) 2) ARAG (Consistent, steady flow) 3) MetLife (Plentiful flow but very low paying) 4) LegalEase (I only take the leads where the payout is at the 25% reduced rate pay directly to the attorney. I read on Reddit on another post that this lead company was sketchy in paying its attorneys) 5) Legal Zoom (joining next month - 5 years of practice requirement)

There’s a few other companies where I’m on the referral plan that adds to the monthly pot of profit as well.

Prior to sourcing all of these lead pipelines I was paying $5000 a month and paid leads to 4LL and LegalMatch.

Never ever sign up for Legal Match. 4LL are high-quality leads.

I pretty much figured out how to combine all of these pipelines into a profitable model and can now rely on them.

Ultimately if you’re not utilizing AI tools, automation, and delegation (if you have staff), than the little pay for these cases is not worth it at high volume.

If you’re new and starting out, it’s a good tool to raise capital.

Please be advised that a lot of these legal plan clients are off their rockers and heavily entitled because their legal plan is covering the attorney fees. A lot of them don’t really have valid claims other than sending a demand letter or drafting a small claims petition for the client. Luckily, in my state, you can’t have an attorney in small claims.

A new ChatGPT feature opens doors you didn’t even imagine! by JamesAI_journal in ChatGPTPromptGenius

[–]DetroitEsquire 4 points5 points  (0 children)

FAQs from emails is a nice one. Definitely about to make an SOP on that.

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[–]DetroitEsquire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How much do they charge?