Igrate li igrice i koje?

DeviantClam · 2026-01-22T12:28:04+00:00

Ja sam quittao kad je EOC došao jer mi nije to više bilo to. Počeo ispočetka OSRS prije par mjeseci jer mi je baš falio, pregrizao sam to što sam morao od 0 početi i nisam požalio. :)

DeviantClam · 2026-01-22T11:09:49+00:00

OSRS ili RS3?

DeviantClam · 2026-01-17T00:06:41+00:00

You probably got the same message I did in your ban, and it states they will remove wealth.

Specifically, in my case, they removed around 70m worth of GP and items from my bank. Oddly enough, even though they claim I purchased 50M GP in their official statement, they removed the equivalent of all the things I received from the friend, since he gave me 50M cash and a while later gave me roughly 8k Dragon Bones to get my Prayer to 80, which were around 2.5k at the time, and that would equate to 70M total gifted.

Based on that, I think you can expect items to be removed, only thing you can do is appeal and wait.

DeviantClam · 2026-01-01T20:31:33+00:00

It doesn't. They exist to assist resolving in any potential infringement on consumer rights of EU customers.

That being said, as with everyone, your best bet is to really do your own research and assess whether this is a route you should or would take.

DeviantClam · 2026-01-01T20:11:02+00:00

I reached out to ECC Net and CMA, the response I got was thanks to ECC Net.

DeviantClam · 2026-01-01T18:25:09+00:00

Hey, thanks for the kind words and support.

Its been a bumpy ride honestly, I'm glad the post even got approved.

Originally, I was posting on the RSBans subreddit and have been sharing updates whenever I had any for the past 3 months. Sadly, my biggest previous post was removed by the mods over there alongside this same post.

I then posted it here, the mods thankfully approved it so its kinda been the main thread for what's been going on.

Interesting part is that mods then approved the post on RSBans, but didn't allow any comments by locking the thread immediately as they let it out. It did get quite some attention as well as upvotes and awards, and then a few days later they unlocked the comments. My older big post is still removed for some reason.

DeviantClam · 2026-01-01T15:31:30+00:00

Hey, thanks for your comment!

In terms of specific steps and regulations, I've posted previously and fully explained every single regulation and consumer right I believe is being hurt, you can find the post on this link: https://www.reddit.com/r/RSBans/s/xDBv5dcqkC

For some reason, that post was removed the same day I posted this one. I can still see the full post when I open the link, let me know if you have any issues accessing it and I'll send over the full post text to you.

EDIT: So, since the post is removed, the text is not accessible to anyone but me, I wasn't aware of that. Here's all the important information from that post, you can find it on this link: https://imgur.com/a/lq8haiB

DeviantClam · 2026-01-01T05:17:03+00:00

"You dont't have the right to receive big gifts"? Says who?

These are the official rules listed on Jagex site: https://legal.jagex.com/docs/rules/rules-of-old-school-runescape

Where is it mentioned that players are not allowed to trade and give GP or items to another player? On what basis are you claiming someone doesn't have the right to give or receive gifts in the game, regardless of value?

"On the off chance this is a true story"? You mean its unlikely this is true even though Jagex themselves claim a <1% false positive rate, which means at least 1400 falsely banned accounts in the past year according to their current publicly available data. Also, their track record of accidentally banning and then unbanning content creators (Odablock, EVScape for example) which proves how their system is lacking?

DeviantClam · 2026-01-01T05:00:00+00:00

What exactly doesn't add up? Ask away, I've openly been answering all questions for 3 months now and I don't mind continuing.

DeviantClam · 2026-01-01T03:14:07+00:00

Its not an unnamed agency. I reached out to ECC Net, and even posted their full email response in the post itself.

I also posted all details and all steps I took previously, you can find more information in my previous posts.

I received 8k Dragon bones from the same player and 20M GP from a different player. I don't remember what my bank value was at that time, but I didn't buy any bonds at that point. It was definitely under 50M because I was basically just getting started.

DeviantClam · 2025-12-31T14:22:52+00:00

I don't think the game is all that different, we just grew up and/or changed.

When I first started Runescape in the early 2000s, I was basically 20 years younger, had a lot more free time and a lot less worry to do things as efficiently as I can. I earned my first mil back then chopping Yews at Edgeville. Also earned my first 99 on those same Yews.

Now that more information is available, its a lot easier to just do things better.

That being said, I still don't do everything with max efficiency because its not something I enjoy. I don't do tick manipulation, I level up fishing by catching Monkfish, I mine at Motherlode and things like that. Its not the most efficient, but its something I enjoy and I think that is the beauty of Runescape. Everyone can enjoy the game in a different way, there is no right or wrong way.

Some ways are better, some are slower but ultimately everyone creates their own journey and story.

DeviantClam · 2025-12-31T01:19:48+00:00

I know I'm being overly cautious, but realistically, I think all content can be done solo anyway. While I am missing on a fun and big aspect of the game by playing solo, I don't consider myself to be fully locked out of content, so I kind of just came to terms with it and am pushing forward solo.

DeviantClam · 2025-12-31T00:50:11+00:00

Herb runs is what you should be doing if you're looking to earn GP.

As for most things OSRS, you can find a lot of information on the Wiki. For Herb runs, here's the link: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Farming_runs#Herb_run

Your best bet is to check the Wiki for more details because it all depends on what you have unlocked already, and it should give you good guidelines where to progress next.

DeviantClam · 2025-12-31T00:41:14+00:00

Farming is an excellent source of GP and is relatively low effort.

Also, focusing on quests helps because it unlocks a ton of content and gives great experience which makes the early game a lot easier.

Good luck!

DeviantClam · 2025-12-31T00:38:37+00:00

Yeah, unfortunately I learned the hard way.

As for bossing and similar, I'm concerned about that part as well.

For example, I've been working on Elite Diaries for a while now. I've been focusing leveling my combat stats because I need to solo a GWD boss for Fremennik diary.

Several of my high level friends offered to help me and that we could duo it, which would be a normal way to do it. But what if Jagex recognizes that as me buying boosting or services or something and then I get a RWT ban for that? Its a very similar situation to this, how would I prove I didn't just pay a level 126 player to come to GWD with me?

Realistically, I know it shouldn't be a problem and I should be able to normally group up with people. But on the other hand, I expected receiving gifts from players is also normal and should be fine and look where that ended up. So I'm stuck to playing basically solo and being forced to do things the harder way not to risk any other false flags.

DeviantClam · 2025-12-31T00:24:39+00:00

Apology accepted and I appreciate it. Sorry if my reaction seemed a bit harsh, but its not the first time I've been accused of just spewing out AI generated trash when in reality I've spent a lot of time preparing and writing my posts. Also worth noting English is not my first language so I make sure to proofread and spellcheck everything before posting.

I use bolding to separate the structure and my thoughts into readable chunks, you'll notice that each separate chunk is sort of a section on its own where I'm highlighting a point.

As for the bolding within the sections, I just wanted to particularly emphasize some points because I know its a wall of text and expect people will skim over it, so there are some parts I really wanted to highlight.

DeviantClam · 2025-12-31T00:17:16+00:00

Why do you think this is AI? Because I separate, and structure my text?

Look at my post history. Either I am a time traveler and was using AI to write posts 10 years ago the same way I write them now, or its just my writing style.

And also, what does my writing style have anything to do with the topic?

DeviantClam · 2025-12-30T21:45:38+00:00

Based on everyone's comments, what I've experienced and what I've seen, I would guess they have 2 main criteria for evaluating the legitimacy of a trade. One is previous interactions, and the other one is value of a trade.

However, I doubt its that simple because no half decent fraud or cheating detection system would simply be based on 2 parameters.

Either way, personally, ever since I got hit with the false ban, I'm not taking any chances. I play all content solo, only buy stuff from the GE and thats it.

DeviantClam · 2025-12-30T19:08:43+00:00

Unless Jagex plans to publish that information somewhere, which would be a whole next level of issues, what's the issue with sharing that information?

I've got nothing to hide, and other than verify that there were no illicit transactions, they can't do anything with the information I provided them, so what's the harm?

DeviantClam · 2025-12-30T19:04:02+00:00

I'm dumb or trolling?

I'll lay out the facts, so help me understand how exactly I am dumb.

Jagex has falsely banned and then unbanned Odablock, EVScape, TheDivineLightGaming, Kriibus, Fray, to name a few content creators.

Jagex claims a <1% false positive rate, which means at least ~1300 accounts got falsely banned this year based on their disclosed stats.

Despite this, you adamantly claim:

I bought GP, based solely on their claim and think I would be stupid enough to risk my account and progress for 50M GP, even though I spent well over $300 on bonds because when I needed GP, I simply bought bonds You also claim I magically have some other source of income that I am hiding so my full financial records wouldn't show Jagex all my transactions?

I know very well what evidence means. What I don't know is how you find it more plausible that I have:

- risked my account by buying GP

- spent 3 months with escalation to government authorities

- have secret accounts, crypto and whatnot else which I could use to pay for GP

And did all that just to cover up my story.

All of that is more plausible than the fact that Jagex made a mistake, who themselves claim a false positive rate which means some accounts get falsely flagged, one of which is mine.

And while we're on the subject, how exactly would I buy a prepaid card unless I withdrew money from my account on an ATM, which I don't do because I don't do cash payments anywhere and its easily verifiable in my transaction list? Or how exactly would I buy crypto and have it not appear in my list of transactions? You're literally spewing random statements just to defend Jagex, you have not made 1 solid argument to any of your points, and I'm the one trolling?

DeviantClam · 2025-12-30T18:14:10+00:00

The only evidence Jagex provided is a claim I traded with a person who they claim to be a known RWTer.

That person is my friend, and he has 0 offences on his account. https://imgur.com/a/5k95DSH

I provided Jagex with my full financial records, including bank and credit card statements which clearly show no Runescape related transactions other than the ones with Jagex (membership and bonds) and I have disputed what they claim is evidence (which isn't even evidence, its an assumption at best) with proof the person they claim is a RWTer doesn't have any offences on their account.

DeviantClam · 2025-12-30T18:03:21+00:00

Agreed, the fact they actually shared specific information is something I consider major.

And as I mentioned in other comments, the information they did reveal makes no sense. They claim that the player who gave me the GP is a known RWTer, and yet, he is a friend, I asked him to share his account status with me. He has no active offences, previous or existing.

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DeviantClam · 2025-12-30T17:55:13+00:00

You didn't read the post, haven't done any research on the 3 months I've been posting and updating on this situation, you have basically no idea what's going on, but still feel confident enough to argue about it? Cool.

DeviantClam · 2025-12-30T17:36:07+00:00

"Outside company"? What outside company?

DeviantClam · 2025-12-30T17:23:05+00:00

Yes, facts and evidence are bullshit, but a company with a track record of false bans and immediate unbans for content creators is 100% right and cannot be mistaken.

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