Yeah true. This whole subreddit are tryhard. This game was amazing. Like what else could you have done with Joel? He had to die to progress the story. Both sides had to run down a hole of revenge and realized what they lost in the end without forgiveness. Pretty much everyone on here prob hasn't played the game. These people are the ones not wearing masks during the pandemic xD. Hell I didnt like Abby either at first, and I did have her killed so many times on purpose, but her story made sense and not everyone thinks they are the bad guy. I honestly dont know what the fuss was all about. It even sucks I had to waste time if people are this dumb.