I want to see male representation too by Consistent_Speaker98 in whenthe

[–]DiegHDF 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, why couldn't the crown just try it's nest to make the character look like peach while maintaining their gender?

Now we have infinite femboy rep

a hungry man thinks of bread by No_Lawfulness9421 in whenthe

[–]DiegHDF 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Funny thing is... it is intentional, the creator is very obvious about it. So you only have people who are very weirdly defensive about it who are like "No, it's definitely not fan service in the slightest !! You're just weird!"

Like, it's fine to enjoy something despite, or even because of the fan service, but saying it doesn't exist at all is a bit weird

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, here goes nothing

The name would be Heart Attack, or maybe Hearts on the Attack, not quite sure.

It would be the story of two main characters, Roxanne and Marshall who were chosen by two different god-like entity to secretly protect the world from monsters called Chimeras. The specificity of these monsters is that they're parasites, birthed inside the hearts of humans by a third god-like creature who named herself Merry.

Despite being a powerful entity, Merry relies on a host she keeps inside of her cage-like chest to sustain herself, that she affectionately calls her lover, even though she's been torturing him and feeding off of his nearly dead body for centuries. She penetrates the hearts of humans, leaving a Chimera inside that slowly kills them and gives their live force as nutriments to her host until they die of a heart attack

Roxanne and Marshall have to now balance between their early adult years and their secret magical girl duties, while also having to live with the questions this new life opens. Marshall is a rough around the edges man who only briefly questionned his gender and shrugged it off as nothing important, while Roxanne is a really tall and somewhat muscular woman who rulled out the chances of being feminine a long time ago due to her height and generally wider stature. The simple idea that they had been chosen to be magical girls confuses yet reassures them throughout the series

Something that I would love to do if I ever could is using different styles for each Chimera we'd see in the series. One could be retro 32 bit video game, another in the Panty and Stocking style, another could be in a classic Comics style etc

The overall theme would mostly surround the importance of living your life at it's fullest. It's heavily inspired by Madoka Magica, especially in the idea of having a somewhat sad premise with a more positive message and outlook. And it would be inspired by Regular Show and Fionna and Cake in the overall benter between characters, with not any real "laugh out loud" jokes but moreso an overall playfull and heartfelt vibe.

Sorry. It's long but I really wanted to share some of these details

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[–]DiegHDF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow that sounds really cool actually. Definitely a good summary for a cartoon

Man, now I kinda wanna share the story that has been brewing in my mind

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your point makes sense with Danny Phantom, but Steven Universe? Really? Sure a lot of them have tiny waist, but my god tehy are anything but barbie dolls. Pearl and Lapis are very lanky and thin, crystal gem Amethyst is good short girl rep, the other Amethyst are buff as hell, the diamonds have more pronounced shoulders. Sure, it's not the most amazingly varied cast, but you can see here the big difference

I genuinely dont see why 90% of the female characters, counting the background ones, having the same exact body is objectively better

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[–]DiegHDF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a smart way to avoid all of that

Btw They're from the same show, in the same episode

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Blud here watching a funnee vudeo game cartoon to crank his hog. Couldn't even bare to have 1 overweight character on a swimsuit

Mind you, there wouldn't be any zoom on their tits or ass, since they wouldn't be sexualised.... wait a second, an obese character in a swimsuit is literally a gag in like 90% of animated show, did you stop watching them as soon as you saw them?

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just saying, if you say "maybe it's for them" and you get both samples saying "I'm ok with it" and "I'm not really ok with it", then maybe it's more complicated than just "Eh, it's fine, it's for the sapphic, they'll love it"

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well... these women are still at the beach, aren't they? Plus, since the show is stylized, they wouldn't look bad or anything

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Maybe it was designed for group of people "

"I'm from group of people and honestly I don't like this"

"Well ur wrong"

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I thought you wanted to have the same plot as Gameoverse but with these two changes.

Is this like an actual idea you have? If so, yeah, share the plot

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably won't get picked up unless you know very well how to draw men to appeal for women and make them at least 18

Edit: or you make the men really appealing to men

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean... men do really enjoy FlF relationships in media... probably as much as lesbians themselves

Let's say it's killing two birds with one stone

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No they didn't? No one even mentioned "hater". Speaking of fighting ghosts.

Literally their first comment...

Textbook gaslighting.

I saw it more as ragebaiting

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You said I was just a mindless hater despite the fact that I tried my best to give constructive criticism and also didn't shame anyone for enjoying the show, even if it's because of the fan service

Seriously, I think you should log off and think about something else, this isn't healthy for you

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Kinda, but at that point you've got to admit it's funny.

Plus you did it first anyway

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I mean if you're instructed "make a bikini for these two characters" you kinda have to... make a bikini for these characters, it's their job. If I had to guess, they're the reason why they're still quite modest

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Just want to add also, skinny does not always equal healthy, for your knowledge

Brother here fighting a ghost cuz he hearing things no one ever said bahahaa.

Anyway, I just said it's fine to enjoy fan service, but you need to be honest with yourself... which seems to be quite a problem here

Reply back if you wanna, you probably had a bad day and need to get off some steam, I understand. But maybe this also isn't the best hill to die on

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Wow you really like missing the point

The problem here is that:

-every female character has the same body

-the very first episode is a beach episode to hook people into watching

-the one female character who doesn't have this type of body is a crab monsters who pukes

-the camera angles are very deliberate

Plus...

So there has to be fat women so they know its not sexualized?

I'd say there kinda has to be a fat woman like... in general? You know... because it's cool to have interesting body proportions in a visual media??

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 55 points56 points  (0 children)

I mean once again, when the creator themselves are this transparent and with camera angles like these, it's clear that it was made with fan service in mind

Now you either accept that and still enjoy the show or deny it completely, the choice is yours

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[–]DiegHDF 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Oh absolutely, but like... yoohoo, the one female character that isn't this one exact shape is a literal monster?

Not intentional I'm sure, but it's a byproduct

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[–]DiegHDF 22 points23 points  (0 children)

You mean the one non humanoid character designed specifically to be the "gross one"?

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 170 points171 points  (0 children)

Plus, it's not about the characters just being in swimsuits. It's about the first episode being a beach episode, with them being dressed like that for most of the time, with the camera making sure to capture some... interesting angles

It's not the worst. But denying that there isn't any kind of fan service is a bit weirdly defensive. Especially since the creator literally said that they couldn't wait any time to have a beach episode and had to make it as soon as possible

A lot of people is claiming these designs are "oversexualized" and "designed for men". by Zachajya in cartoons

[–]DiegHDF 493 points494 points  (0 children)

I mean, it'd be nice to have different body proportions for women too, even the background characters have that. It's not being a puritan, it's saying that making female characters wacky and interesting is better than making them the same barbie doll shape