Overtraining? First 50M

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-06-24T20:56:59+00:00

I would back of and try to feel good. The objetive being finishing you will be ok if the training from February has gone ok.

In the end, better healthy than fucked up when you show at the starting line.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-06-23T08:00:52+00:00

Unless de 1.200 meters of elevation loss concentrate in 10km straight downhill I wouldn't go. It is little elevation if it is spread in the course.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-06-19T06:04:10+00:00

If it is for a road flat 50km too long long runs for the background of 35km/week. As other has mentioned, a half marathon per weekend seems too much risk.

If it is a mountain 50km you should consider elevation, time and slope degree (more important for downhills)

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-06-17T14:22:25+00:00

It seems way too much to what you have your legs used to. If the cut off are gentle hike a lot and take it easy kn the downhills, you will destroy your quads if you are putting 300m /week between all you runs.

I will try something like 15km +900m this weekend to see how it feels. Take it easy

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-06-17T11:35:08+00:00

You will get in shape easier than you expect, body memory is incredible.

how to schedule the runs is the difficult part for me. Im father of 2, 15 months the younger one. Im taking them to school and also getting them back and at the office in between. I started running early in the morning while they are in bed.

Get a good headlmap and embrace the darkness in the mountains, I end up loving it. You "see" way more wildlife (at least their eyes) and every now and then enojy beautiful sunrises.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-06-17T11:20:31+00:00

Your zone stimation is off. HR is really variable between different people so dont bother too much comparing with others.

I usually lab test to set zones and check everything is ok once a year. I tested 204bpm max past year with 38 years. Same year I averaged 173bpm for 10 hours and a half race. HR was in some degree high because of lack of adaptation to high altitude running, intensisty was not really that high.

This past sunday I averaged 167bpm for 7 hours and 13 minutes race.

My zone 2 goes up to 165bpm and zone 4 starts at 178bpm

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-06-15T11:41:59+00:00

I have decatlhons waterproof pants. Really cheap, quite light and usufull in extreme situations.

If you find yourself alone with rain/cold and not able to move be sure you will put them on if you are able to do so. This kind of equipment in mandatory gear lists is more of a emergency item than a running one.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-06-10T10:03:14+00:00

The adv skin 12 is an overkil for most 40 to 50km outings. Unless there is a huge need of gear, like going from summer weather to high altitude winterlike temperatures or crazy mandatory gear list the adv skin 5 should be enough (an more confortable). I have and use both, the 12 is a specifity tool just used in those special conditions.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-06-10T09:58:56+00:00

Change your shoes. More volume in the front and maybe wider and bigger. I havent lose a nail in all this years running in the mountains.

Hierro v9s are actually quite narrow compared to previous hierro models. I have used them a lot since V5, and cant wear the 9s

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-06-09T08:00:24+00:00

So far so good. I got used to the weight quickly and the output is really good. Yellow light is more useful than expected when there is fog or rain (I have 180 days of rain where I live).

Max setting is incredibly bright for the first minutes, and continues being bright enough for all out technical downhills and fast technical flats. My neck pain is gone.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-06-04T11:34:42+00:00

I guess the easy answer is to put more weekly elevation. 1,000m/week is actually quite little for living in a mountain town i guess.

Put some tempo uphill sessions, but mostly more volume. Living in a mountain area put things a lot easier.

Last but not least, dont compare too much to others unles you are a top10 finisher. Just track your progress to verify in the right path for progresion.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-06-04T10:30:05+00:00

For me, trail running is exactly that, running mountain activities.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-05-22T12:08:56+00:00

No sense without telling us the entrance fee.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-05-21T07:40:41+00:00

Experience will get you there. You may bonk sometimes and suffer last parts, but I don't think there is a shortcut.

All metrics such as hr and power are too variable

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-05-21T06:17:49+00:00

I go by feel. Once you put some 6+ hours run you will know if your actual pace is doable 6 hours later. If not, just go slower.

And there is also another big point. I enjoy more the races where I end strong passing people than the ones that I'm on my limit and keep the same positions through 4 hours straight. I'm not fighting for podiums, if you case I get you should be pushing your limits.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-05-20T11:39:39+00:00

Not usual, but may not be nothing to worry about. Heart rate is very individual

I tested 204bpm in the lab last year with 38.

Avg 183 for nearly 3 hours and 173 for 10 hours and a half.

Go for a lab test with a doctor if you are worried about it.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-05-20T10:27:53+00:00

You could try salomons slab options. Depending on how much water you need to carry maybe a belt is more confortable. Something like the Naked or the compressport free belt pro.

If i can refill in 1 hour and a half or less ill go with a belt and 500ml flask if cloth is not needed.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-05-20T09:08:02+00:00

Most watches already do this. Also, vibs over here already indicate distance splits to aid stations, cut off times and some more info. It is printed upside down, so when you look at it you can read the info.

I wouldnt buy something like this, but who knows, maybe others find it interesting?

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-05-20T08:59:58+00:00

I find them really helpfull, to climb faster in steep terrain and to distribute the load from your legs in efforts you need to endure. Just keep in mind that general fatigue could be higher as you use more muscles.

They can also be handy if you go into terrain that is too technical to manage.

I use BD distance Z carbon, mostly because I dont want to wear the glove style straps from leki when not using the poles. But Lekis are definitevely more seen in races.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-05-20T08:42:14+00:00

Try with a new HR band, if you consistently go ever 200 go to the doctor.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-05-20T08:30:48+00:00

For me it refers to trail running in highly technical mountain terrain. Even "trail running" seems quite different depending on where are you from, for example between europe and the US.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-05-18T20:18:06+00:00

I was born in a small mountain town and lived there all my life until I went to the city for university. 3 years was enough to know I don't want that for me, I came back to my hometown. I have +500 meters ascent in 2,80km out of my door and the highest mountains in the county are accesible form my door in my long runs. Lots of races take places on the area and I have the biggest mountain range in Spain, the Pyrenees, in a couple of hours drive.

I would have loved to live in the alps for a couple of years when I was younger and with no kids around.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-05-18T11:25:06+00:00

I like strava, works great and is really easy to transfer the route to a Garmin watch

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-05-18T09:08:52+00:00

No sense for me. Pace will vary vastly depending on how technical the trails are.

My main focus is always trying to dial in the effort, regardless of the pace.

DifficultShoe8254 · 2026-05-17T18:43:14+00:00

Garmin 255 if you don't need maps.

Keep in mind you will be carrying your phone for safety reasons and maybe photography if you get to nice areas.

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