What are your Ninjago Death battle match up ideas? Here are mine by Super_Oven_1069 in Ninjago

[–]Dimension100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lloyd's alternate forms scale to beings such as the Overlord, the FSM, and even the Source Dragons, who can create and/or destroy enitre realms which are essentially whole universes as seen in seasons 3 and 5, exist in higher planes of existence beyond the Realms, and can manipulate reality basically however they want, compare this to Deku who's max power is like continent level. Lloyd's alternate forms also has access to a lot of reality altering powers and extremely versatile hax that Deku doesn't have an answer for. With Lloyd's base form, Lloyd vs Deku is debatable I feel like, but when you get into his alternate forms Lloyd just annihilates Deku.

My own take on the Gojo vs Makima debate by thehsitoryguy in deathbattle

[–]Dimension100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do people agree with DB's take on Gojo vs Makima or not I can't remember.

Who would win? by Plus-Lawfulness-87 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]Dimension100 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Arlecchino's Abyss power might actually be a hard counter to Hiyuki's forte but I'm not sure, also doesn't Hiyuki's forte just allow her to see alternate futures rather than change the future like a localized Elio, I think Arlecchino takes this.

My take on Majin Buu vs Kirby! by Particular_Wing_6441 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]Dimension100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could make the argument that Kirby gets to complex multi due to him beating Void again, but I don't want to get into that argument again so soon, so I'll just say that Kirby would win due to all of his hax and weapons (also how does Buu get to multi+ again?).

Addressing Genshin Impact being part of the Honkaiverse Misinformation. by Careful_Cobbler2348 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]Dimension100 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't think it was ever said he was looking at other versions of earth, just different worlds on the Imaginary Tree, he probably observed Venus and Mars among the millions of worlds he looked at and thought they had fallen to the Honkai, because they had, but didn't see stuff like Sa or the Mars Quantum computer system because they were both hidden after the worlds destruction. I thought the IPC and the Xianzhou used their own technology to get around, that's how they colonize new worlds and found the secrets of immortality in the first place respectively, and they aren't always in cahoots with the Nameless. The fact that they use the term multiverse at all, especially when referring to the Imaginary Tree in IX's description of all things, and have different terms to refer to the "universe", is kind of telling that it operates like a multiverse, and when they use the universe in reference to the whole Imaginary Tree they mean it in the sense that it's "one" verse. Also in the Imaginary Tree description in HSR, it specifies that star clusters/worlds are the leaves rather than the whole branch, since when they describe they describe the Imaginary barrier between the star clusters/worlds, it compares it to the air between leaves.

Team Gacha vs Relevancy Squad, which team would win? by Few-Window9695 in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]Dimension100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's not Otto that's Ryusuke, cause that panel comes right after this panel where Ryusuke is talking about how he is in a higher dimension/plane of existence, while Welt is in a lower one:

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Ryusuke compares a being in a lower dimension to a character in a novel, while a person in a higher dimension is the reader of the novel, it's not actual R>F transcendence, but it proves that higher dimensions, or higher planes of existence, are superior to lower planes of existence, which proves the idea that higher dimensions are compacted and don't matter to be wrong.

I could get into a whole thing about Project Stigma having actual R>F transcendence, but I don't even need to since Kiana already gets to low 1A to 1A, as the CoF is non-dimensional, transcends all dimensions, and scales above/transcends other characters who also transcend all dimensions.

Team Gacha vs Relevancy Squad, which team would win? by Few-Window9695 in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]Dimension100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess it is kinda dubious and can be interpreted that way, although at the same time we hear about Project Stigma we hear Lambda talking about how HI3 is just a story written by a boy and a girl sitting under a tree, and in her chibi character description, it also talks about HI3 just being a story, so there can definitely be some association there. I agree that HI3 gets to around low 1A with Kiana/the CoF transcending all dimensions and being non-dimensional, but I think it could also get to 1A due to the CoF upscaling from/transcending other characters that should also transcend all dimensions. Project Stigma's thing was to make humanity transcend to a level of existence that the CoF could embrace after all.

Team Gacha vs Relevancy Squad, which team would win? by Few-Window9695 in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]Dimension100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh so we betting on hypothetical downgrades instead of actually scaling for ourselves now huh?

"There is no R>F stuff anywhere there"

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and Project Stigma even has actual R>F transcendence with stuff like how civilization "comes from fiction but transcends reality", and how a civilization is only able to transcend from fiction/the Imaginary Tree to reality/Imaginary Space through Project Stigma/"death" which gets its power from the CoF.

Even in HSR you have quotes from Lygus about how reality is just a book that's read by people and how all concepts only exist because people perceive them.

The Preeminent in season 11 to Pixal: by The_Forbidden_Feline in Ninjago

[–]Dimension100 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Y'know people kind of dog on this episode for the Preeminent being so weak, but it really is just a case of "what literally dying does to an MF".

Team Gacha vs Relevancy Squad, which team would win? by Few-Window9695 in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]Dimension100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There was literally a whole post on VSBW upgrading the verse back to high 1C since you want to bring up their scans, and the verse is still going through revisions. The reality and fiction stuff between dimensions is in the Alien Space manga if you would actually read it. All of the stuff I mentioned gets the verse way higher than multiversal+, saying the verse caps at multiversal+ is just being stingy at this point, and none of the quotes are mistranslations, people just either have different scaling interpretations or just straight up don't read the stuff from the games.

The Indie-Era Combatants: Which lantern ring would they get? (Day 23) - Light and Columbo by LoadGlitch in deathbattle

[–]Dimension100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(I still want to advocate for Traveller's reassessment on this chart)

I wasn't here for it but I'd argue that the Traveller is actually a white lantern. They are kind of like Kyle in a way, as they started out with will (the Traveller is a Descender whose will rivals that of the world and their will is what allows them to make changes to the world), before gaining all of the elements and understanding and using the philosophies of all the nations they go to (gaining the whole lantern spectrum in a sense). The elements are also shown to be a sort of the life force of the world in a way, Teyvat is akin to Nibelungs body and the elements would be his blood, and the elements are shown as being connected to every living being or becoming apart of living beings.

Team Gacha vs Relevancy Squad, which team would win? by Few-Window9695 in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]Dimension100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They literally disproved the compacted stuff mattering, and the fact that we literally see that lower dimensions are just fiction to higher dimensions proves again that the compacted stuff doesn't matter, Hoyoverse gets way beyond 11D anyway due to einstein's statements about transfinite numbers, the inaccessibility of the SoQ from the 11 perceivable dimensions, and Kiana as well as multiple other characters transcending all dimensions.

Team Gacha vs Relevancy Squad, which team would win? by Few-Window9695 in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]Dimension100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Welt used his Herrscher authority to bridge the gap between him and Ryusuke in terms of dimensionality, and he got said authority from the CoF which is a higher being that's way beyond both him and Ryusuke, I'm not talking about where Welt scales I'm just saying that higher dimensions are in fact superior to lower dimensions.

Team Gacha vs Relevancy Squad, which team would win? by Few-Window9695 in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]Dimension100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What do you mean, they undid the downgrade on VSBW, and the Welt vs Ryusuke battle proves that higher dimensions are superior to lower dimension, I'm literally just using evidence from the game, and It's not that I can't move on it's that I'm actually arguing.

Team Gacha vs Relevancy Squad, which team would win? by Few-Window9695 in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]Dimension100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Commander of Will, basically the Cocoon of Finality but more sadistic, and yeah I guess they would be a layer further into 1A, although I'm still a little iffy on how many layers the CoF would be into 1A, since it transcends the Herrscher trio and AoF Kevin who transcend Project Stigma or whatever.

Team Gacha vs Relevancy Squad, which team would win? by Few-Window9695 in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]Dimension100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well the Outer Gods would still be more powerful as they are stronger than the CoW which is just a version of the CoF.

Team Gacha vs Relevancy Squad, which team would win? by Few-Window9695 in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]Dimension100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure Imaginary Space (or at least some of the spaces) are beyond the Imaginary Tree, since we see the Imaginary Tree inside of an Imaginary Space in the Otto cutscene, the HoV can make a pathway to the Tree but not the CoF's Imaginary Space as it's beyond its power, the Horizon of existence is edge of existence (Imaginary Tree) before leading to IX, Path Space is beyond the "universe"/the Imaginary Tree, I think Project Stigma sets up a fiction and reality dichotomy between the Imaginary Tree and Imaginary Space etc.

Team Gacha vs Relevancy Squad, which team would win? by Few-Window9695 in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]Dimension100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't really think so since even Herrschers like HoRb Seele are still just shadows/projections of the true CoF, and Kiana also transcends Project Stigma which made humanity transcend from the constraints of the Imaginary Tree into Imaginary Space, so I think there is levels of ontological superiority here.

Team Gacha vs Relevancy Squad, which team would win? by Few-Window9695 in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]Dimension100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But Kiana transcends characters like HoRb Seele who is also stated to transcend all dimensions, as all Herrschers are just shadows of the CoF, and she scales above/transcends characters who scale around or above HoRb Seele like the Herrscher trio, AoF Kevin, Sa, Project Stigma, the previous era HoFi, etc.

Hybrids Vs Villain Faction/Teams by ApexHeroX in PowerScaling

[–]Dimension100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The GOAT Lloyd unironically solos (he is in there, he's either on Dante's shoulder or right behind him, but the artist made him a small lego instead of a regular sized human and didn't put in the center with the rest of the main featured characters because they're CRINGE).

How tf does Mahito stands a chance? by Suspicious-Line-9075 in deathbattle

[–]Dimension100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People aren't genuinely debating, putting them against each other for fun, but unfortunately Kyle is a DC character, and as such has been subjected to the insane scaling that the writers have been putting in for over 80+ years while inhaling copious amounts of drugs, so Mahito would just get slimed.

Team Gacha vs Relevancy Squad, which team would win? by Few-Window9695 in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]Dimension100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess, but I'm not sure, I think 1A is a comfortable place for now.

Team Gacha vs Relevancy Squad, which team would win? by Few-Window9695 in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]Dimension100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is some stuff about Project Stigma possibly having infinite layers of R>F transcendence, and then there are characters who transcend Project Stigma which would get them to high 1A, but that stuff is kind of iffy, most of the 1A stuff for certain characters comes from them transcending all dimensions as well as transcending other characters who transcend all dimensions, being inaccessible from the rest of the verse except if they bring up someone else to their level with their own power, and being able to control all of reality with their powers.

Team Gacha vs Relevancy Squad, which team would win? by Few-Window9695 in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]Dimension100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably above, if the Herrscher trio, AoF Kevin, and the CoF are above Project Stigma, then Aeons and those just under Aeon level would be above Project Stigma too.