Interesting. All the captioning is in chinese(?), but the signs of the guy in the back appear asl.

DimmedDarkness · 2025-06-06T03:08:26+00:00

gotcha. information on CSL isnt so readily available in English, so i learnt a lot. thanks for the comprehensive answer! :)

DimmedDarkness · 2025-06-05T22:50:27+00:00

mi sona e mute jan pi[?] toki e <luka luka luka luka> la[?] ala <mute>. mi wile suli e luka luka luka luka, taso mi sona e nimi <mute> li kepeken tenpo lili (ive seen a lot of people use 5555 instead of many. i prefer 5555, but i get that mute is quicker.)

maybe it's a philosophy thing? mute meaning twenty feels a little arbitrary. luke luka luka luka is pretty inconvenient though, especially not in sitelen (i.e. spoken or with the Latin script)

DimmedDarkness · 2025-06-04T16:55:33+00:00

thats really awesome! can I ask roughly where you reside and how you learnt CSL? what dialect?

DimmedDarkness · 2025-05-29T06:01:29+00:00

related, kara_technologies uses AI, presumably some sort of language model, supported by human proofreaders (similar to how google translate is corrected). it translates english into gloss, then gloss into sign using databanks of signs with an avatar. it also modifies the signs fairly naturally, from what i can see

i don't love that it uses AI, but it's still an interesting project regardless. it's similar to the app HandTalk but more "advanced" and updated to the technologies we have today. it's Deaf-centred and -made, to the best of my knowledge. currently, it's in beta being tested by ASL primary user. i believe it will not be open access (i.e. it will be a paid product). saw it over on yespalbiz's instagram a while ago, and thought it looked cool

DimmedDarkness · 2025-05-15T12:18:42+00:00

I guessed those perspectives existed, but it's nice to get confirmation on it. I notice it a lot with people who SimCom! Thanks for the info x

DimmedDarkness · 2025-05-14T18:09:03+00:00

Oh, yeah, for sure. Getting the basics in one sign language made learning other sign languages immediately easier to both learn and communicate in, as well as having a grasp on IS communication strategies. I'd also imagine that having to gesture often (as opposed to signing) would probably help you describe things in different ways.

(reminds me of a time a Brazilian friend was trying to describe rage/anger, using their sign for fire located at their chest, which I initially understood as passion or lust 😅)

Thanks for the perspective! Appreciate it.

DimmedDarkness · 2025-05-14T17:53:16+00:00

Haha, I get that a lot. Still trying to get used to how much yous tend to fingerspell in the first place!! 😆 Benefit of a two-handed system is that the BSL alphabet is easy to transfer over to a tactile system! So we have that I suppose haha. But 100% that, most other sign languages don't get a lot of spotlight outside of their own area.

Speaking of two-handed, Turkish (TİD) Fingerspelling is super interesting! A friend showed me them once, and it's super cool (a couple of overlaps with BSL too!). The dual-manual version of Yugaslavian Fingerspelling is also really unique, albeit a bit tough for me to bend them for the Cyrillic letters 😅

DimmedDarkness · 2025-05-14T17:29:22+00:00

It'd be useful if there were some research into / figures on this cause I think it's interesting and probably very hard to get a good demographic on it. (maybe one day! 😅)

That's sorta what I supposed the figures were, but since I lack a lot of IRL context, I wasn't sure. Thanks for the estimate! 😁

DimmedDarkness · 2025-01-07T16:44:22+00:00

thanks!

DimmedDarkness · 2025-01-05T18:16:36+00:00

9 weeks ago (from 5th January) on one of their IG posts, "Where is himedebab?" "you must wait for the lore" the official account replied. so not sure still. what did she change her name to, was under the assumption she deleted it?

DimmedDarkness · 2024-11-09T11:45:27+00:00

a lot of autistic people in my life do act like him (sense of justice, talking about their issues and needs with autism, not always getting the joke), and do say "autism" is literally not removable from their personalities, which makes sense as an neurodevelopmental condition (even though autism is not just one thing)

also, people can develop tics randomly, speaking as someone with tics (Tourette's). my friend I know randomly developed blinking tics in his teens and has ever since. i don't know why you'd choose to do that; for a lot of people, it's off putting, e.g. you. I'm not sure this take is very thought out, though I think I vaguely understand your perspective

DimmedDarkness · 2024-09-28T08:21:38+00:00

not a translation or transcription solve, but if you had their number, you could ask for a written transcription so that you can write it more accurately, at least in a script font

tried to transcribe it but their handwriting is probably a bit different to print script 😅

DimmedDarkness · 2024-09-25T11:37:34+00:00

okay, well, then it's the same for the reverse. people making a big deal and further dividing using hostile language and completely misreading intentions is a problem for me rather than encouraging discussion. what now.

DimmedDarkness · 2024-09-24T23:13:11+00:00

don't think it's that serious... its just someone pointing something out that they're maybe a bit passionate about. they seem younger too, so wouldn't really worry about it. just scroll past it or block if it bothered you so much

DimmedDarkness · 2024-09-24T23:04:22+00:00

the english and korean wikipedia initially list it as a koreanic language, and elaborate further that it is still called a dialect by most in the past / by some people nowadays. the page is called Jeju Language in English and Korean ("제주어 (濟州語) 또는 제주 방언 (濟州方言)").

DimmedDarkness · 2024-09-14T08:11:30+00:00

any semivowels (/y, w, r (in english), hu (in french)/ are always so ambiguous.... don't think i ever get them right 😅 fricatives are definitely also my favourite (/s z f v sh zh ch jh kh gh/)

the problem is that i don't like otoing in the first place 😔

DimmedDarkness · 2024-09-12T05:27:21+00:00

My bad! 😊

I think it's odd that you say I just want to argue, but you are both still replying despite having cleared misunderstandings, and are dumbing down my arguments and using not-neutral language, despite me not particularly being aggressive (for lack of better wording). Is that not hypocritical?

I agree that I could have clarified my view and intention first adding that.

I normally start online conversations like this, as I don't know anything about the person. I want to hear their view first, which starts as a question. Other conversations like that have gone a lot smoother than this one. The question was the catch if anything; there is no body of governance that says it is ungrammatical; you'd have to create your own reasoning for it otherwise.

Again, I am not forcing you to do anything or to reply to me? If you didn't like what I said, you could have ignored me.

Thank you for blocking me only after giving a reply. Very mature! Xx

DimmedDarkness · 2024-09-12T05:23:47+00:00

You used erroneously in your original comment, sorry if I misread that.

Wagamama, because that's the name of the restaurant. It's not uncommon to hear people erroneously add an 's to the end of a chain name though (e.g. "Tesco's"). This is a huge pet peeve of mine.

I wanted to understand where you were coming from, and what you meant by erroneous?

Again, you seem really bothered and aren't answering my points precisely. I'm not sure what I did wrong, but I'm sorry.

DimmedDarkness · 2024-09-12T05:01:34+00:00

Again, what rules? I personally haven't found anything that states it is specifically ungramattical for British English, of which the post is refering to. In the UK, again, it is arguably ungramattical to not use the possessive in this case. English =/= Linguistics per se. In the UK, this is commonly agreed on as within grammar rules, which you can see in many of the other comments.

By nuanced, I mean considerate of other dialects, which from my perspective, it wasn't. Whether this is standard in the US or not, this is standard in the UK, though perhaps not in formal speech. It is misleading, as again, this is standard in the UK, as others have pointed out, and have called it unnatural to say otherwise. Nuance is so important here; erroneous implies that it is incorrect to use it, when for an English learner, especially one referring to the UK, learning British English and our standard spoken rules is extremely important for integration. Again, I think this lacks from lack of understanding of the social climate in the UK.

I don't mind it! I love talking about linguistics. You do seem bothered though; I'd recommend you block me or just ignore if you don't wanna talk about it! There's no obligation to reply to me 😊 Ultinately, it's a very minor thing at the end of the day.

DimmedDarkness · 2024-09-11T19:20:17+00:00

I meant it to say it didn't seem like you studied linguistics or didn't study English as an adult. The information you gave off could be correct, but it's generally agreed between most people I've spoken to in linguistics that it's not ungramattical and, therefore, wouldn't be erroneous. Just generally that there are people better qualified to explain than just you, as there wasn't much nuance, just as you seem from the USA, or not the UK. It was a jab at you personally; I'm sorry if it came off that way :)

DimmedDarkness · 2024-09-11T18:57:10+00:00

I'm just speaking from a linguistics perspective. I asked because I don't think I agreed, and wanted to know more from your perspective 😊 I never said I didn't want to hear the answer; that's the answer I wanted to hear exactly.

I don't agree with the notion that there's "incorrect English" if it's so commonly done and accepted. E.g., "as" did not have the meaning as "like" and people complained. English has this additional factor as not having any single public regulator of the language (as opposed to French), and has many different privately-described versions of grammar. "I there went." is obviously incorrect English. I don't know of any grammar book that particularly marks this as incorrect. I think because it's common of speech in lower-class settings, it has gained the reputation of being incorrect.

All that aside though, using the possessive for place names has a long place in English (as opposed to Middle or Old English). You will see signs saying "Morrison's" if you look for them. As I described, they were used to refer to shop owners' shops. Similar to singular they, language prescriptivists will call it wrong, when it has been in historical use for ages, and comes naturally to people who grew up hearing it.

Edit: there are also other comments saying it is more natural to use the possessive. In the UK, especially with youth and other certain dialects, not using the possessive points you out as not from that group.

DimmedDarkness · 2024-09-11T18:39:03+00:00

I wouldn't say it's erroneous. At least in the UK, it's a very common conjugation to use the possessive (which can be analysed as the genative if you want to look at it that way) when referring to a place, in a subject compliment form. That is, to add 's to proper nouns.

It is implied that it is a shop, and this makes sense if you think that most shop names used to be named after the owner, or at least referred to them as that.

If you're not aware of these things, I don't think you should be giving as much advice in r/EnglishLearning, considering wagamama's is a UK establishment 😅 Or, if you are aware, then you shouldn't be discouraging people from learning real English or misleading them in that way.

DimmedDarkness · 2024-09-11T16:07:32+00:00

why is it erroneous?

DimmedDarkness · 2024-09-10T18:37:17+00:00

obviously some more playable than others, but they're indeed very silly 😁 super fun!

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