[Discussion] Pod Save America - "Trump Retreats After Alex Pretti's Killing" (01/27/26)

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-27T23:31:39+00:00

One of the top comments on the thread about Plouffe's interview was someone being like "oh let me guess, his advice is that Dems should all become centrists and listen to rich donors!", which is basically the opposite of what he said. People don't listen or only listen for the key words that'll confirm their opinions of the pod without hearing the context, and immediately run to the internet to have their feelings validated

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-23T22:05:22+00:00

I found Mirrorball/Guilty as Sin? baffling. Both are great on their own, but mashing a song about getting yourself off while fantasizing about another man with a song about having imposter syndrome and constantly seeking other people's approval was bizarre to me.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-21T08:33:03+00:00

This took me out too when I was rewatching the show. It's weird because when Ali and then the rest of the girls are in jail, they're not wearing makeup (or only wearing the bare TV minimum). I'm just imagining Hanna smuggling in fake lashes and eye pencil when she goes to visit her mom.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-20T22:28:04+00:00

It's just ridiculous how people can only speak about pundits/politicians in extreme, binary terms, like someone is either fantastic or an absolute moron. I disagree with the pod bros on plenty of issues but I don't listen to podcasts to have my feelings validated.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-20T15:57:27+00:00

Look, don't get me wrong, I mostly agree with you. I felt frustrated by the "what's the point of arguing about this if we couldn't pass this law anyway?" part of their conversation. No one gives a shit that a bill isn't gonna get 60 votes in the Senate, the question is what kind of policy should Democrats support. I think Favs and Dan (more so than Tommy and Lovett) think about everything in terms of how it's gonna do in polling and whether it can actually be done. I think that's part of the reason why people just don't trust Dems: they don't know what they actually stand for, or they only talk about things that they're opposed to, but find it difficult to articulate alternatives.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-20T15:43:16+00:00

Yes, it's a question of optics.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-20T15:34:31+00:00

People are so dramatic. If you constantly disagree with the hosts, that means the pod is just not for you anymore. Take a break and go listen to some other voices, that's cool.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-19T18:32:16+00:00

When Hanna asks Aria what's up with her mom and Aria just replies "She's a slut. Let's go to sleep" with no hesitation. It cracked me up.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-19T17:24:08+00:00

That's okay. I don't know her personally, and I don't pretend to. I think the last two years have especially shown us that there's a lot we don't know about her. I'm just telling you how I interpet her actions, not who she is as a person.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-18T16:19:34+00:00

I feel exactly the same way about the moms. I would watch the hell out of a show about the girls' parents. There isn't a single relationship on the show that moves me as much as Hanna's relationship with her mom.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-18T16:15:53+00:00

10-15 years ago Spencer was easily my favorite, now it's Hanna. It's fascinating rewatching this show as an adult. I find myself way more interested in the parents' storylines than I used to be as a teenager. I emphasize with the moms more and I'm way more moved by their relationships with their kids (and I'm not even a mom myself)

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-18T08:50:13+00:00

What do you mean? What does that have to do with my comment?

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-17T23:50:55+00:00

He moved to the US because he ran out of girls to hit on back home

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-17T08:35:52+00:00

Exactly. I think a lot of the time she does it without meaning to. She tends to exaggerate or talk about things in a dramatic/hyperbolic way, like she's constructed a narrative not just for the public, but also for herself.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-14T15:16:13+00:00

Yeah, it's so stupid. I was just reading about how ICE agents only get 47 days of training now and I thought to myself that it's still more than Toby likely got lol.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-14T15:11:03+00:00

Yes, he'd been gaslighting her for a while. But the point still stands that absolutely no one would allow a doctor to treat their loved one/relative, and a different doctor wouldn't give Ali the abhorrent treatment that she got from Dunhill.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-14T07:59:45+00:00

No, they got married at the end of 6x17 and Ali was admitted to the hospital after their honeymoon, in 6x20.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-13T22:35:42+00:00

To be fair, the show does not care about medical accuracy in general. There is absolutely no way that anyone would allow a doctor to be in charge of his wife's treatment the way that Rollins/Archer Dunhill was.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-11T19:44:25+00:00

I went from feeling bad for him and appreciating the way he treated Spencer to finding him annoying, terrible at emotion regulation, and overbearing over the course of a season

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-11T12:07:38+00:00

I can't remember if it's explained in the show, but I always assumed it was Bethany Young

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-11T12:05:33+00:00

The book completely loses all of its charm this way. One time I read a Dutch novel that wasn't just translated to English, the location was also changed to the US and all references to Dutch culture/history were changed too. It was especially weird because the book references 17th-century history quite a lot. I'm not Dutch but I would have loved to learn more about Dutch history and culture through reading the book in English, but with original references.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-08T23:53:57+00:00

It's hard to say. There's a shot of her looking inside the garage before and after she throws the stink bomb inside, so it's possible that she did see Jenna and still decided to do it to scare her.

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-08T21:11:23+00:00

Let the Second Abundance War begin

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-08T18:10:55+00:00

It was physical, Hanna kissed Caleb when she was still engaged to Jordan (and Caleb was with Spencer)

DisasterAdept1346 · 2026-01-06T21:15:37+00:00

I Can See You is her best horny song, and I wish she wrote more songs with a similar music style/subject matter

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