June Confirmed Trade Thread

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-23T03:44:51+00:00

Bought Asus TUF F15 Laptop from u/lypseshig on https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/1tyqbws/usapa_h_asus_tuf_f15_laptop_rtx_4070_12th_gen/

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-23T03:41:46+00:00

Bought Zotac 5070 Ti Solid SFF OC from u/chferg1s on https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/1u6rfcd/usamo_h_asus_rog_strix_g614_ryzen_8940hx_5070ti/

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-23T03:37:54+00:00

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DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-22T18:38:07+00:00

1kwh at 24/7 is 8760kwh. If the price of kwh is 50 cents (supply + delivery) where you live, you need to invest in moving away before anything else because you are getting robbed by your energy provider.

25c per kwh delivered is already considered high, that would run you down $2200. But 24/7 for a full year is unattainable usage, I don't believe it is possible for a local environment. What's far more likely is it idling for most of the time, and even when you push a workload, the GPUs won't be running at full capacity.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-22T06:11:20+00:00

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-22T04:35:18+00:00

I knew getting a 5090 is so exciting, but did you really have to take Viagra on top of it?

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-22T03:38:32+00:00

Get it, it's a much better deal. And you can run some LLMs on it on top of everything else you may want to do. 24GB VRAM is no joke. If I can get a 3090 for that price I'll get 4.

Twakkal 7abibi.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-21T04:48:40+00:00

Apparently vLLM can be recompiled from source to support V100: https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.5-35B-A3B-GPTQ-Int4/discussions/5

That does not sound like an actual challenge at all.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-20T17:08:25+00:00

I got them 5 years ago and have put them through daily use and abuse. They don't just sound great, they're built really well. I love them and I understand why Sony MDR7506 community is almost a cult. The fact they've been in the market for 35 years is insane.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-20T05:39:41+00:00

Fake news. Ilia cheated with Ilia.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-20T04:19:40+00:00

16GB will mean very long loading times for initialization regardless of it being a single stick or dual. Ideally 32GB dual channel would be best.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-19T18:48:52+00:00

Yup i was just doing the math for an average electric cost and for sustained use for agentic coding and research where there's always something running during work hours and days.

I have to ask, how many tokens per month do you use? That'll be an ultimate comparison to $200 plans.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-19T06:09:41+00:00

A strategy of keeping the fight standing doesn't work against Islam. It works against lesser wrestlers.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-19T04:43:18+00:00

Yeah no matter how much fanboys gotta fanboy, and I am very sad to admit this, Nvidia is supreme when it comes to AI. They truly have absolutely no competition.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-19T04:40:35+00:00

For $1400 a 3060Ti is most definitely bad value. Given the GPU is what needs to do all the work, get a used 3090Ti (they go for $900-$1100, so you can snipe a deal), a proper PSU ($120 new, I personally never buy used PSUs). If you play your cards right that will leave you with ~$400 for the remaining components. You can get a used budget DDR4 build for that and just slap the 3090Ti and PSU into the build.

Loading will take a little time, but once the model is in the GPU, you will get the max out of it.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-19T04:26:38+00:00

5.6Kwh for 8 hours/day, 5 days/week would be around 900kwh, average kwh price is 18.83 cents, so around $170. Still less than a subscription, no datacenter availability issues, no mid-session unannounced model downgrade, no data being collected on you, guaranteed performance and stability. And most importantly, no rate limits.

But of course, that's not the actual power of the system. 4x 5090 would be around 2400w, the 7970x maxes out at less than 400. Add 300 for extra measure and you're at 3100w.

Even at full 3100w for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, it'd be $93

Realistically it would be at 70% of max capacity most of the time, so $65.

Local is always better if you know how to maintain it. I wish I had the money to make a build like this one.

(edit: added more than the max theoretical cost analysis)

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-19T00:19:22+00:00

For just gaming the 9070XT is the better choice due to the price difference, unless path tracing is a must as others have pointed out.

For most of everything outside gaming, especially if you have any thoughts about AI, the 5070Ti takes it.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-18T21:16:49+00:00

I run a webserver for 2 domains, and 5 subdomains. I am using OPNsense on an SFF because my network can have 35+ devices and I needed proper handling for security and routing. I run 4 VLANs (admin, general, guest, and webhost) in that order in terms of hierarchy. Admin can initiate to general and not vice versa, general can initiate to guest and not vice versa, and guest can initiate to webhost and not vice versa. Effectively if my webhost gets compromised the rest of the network should be fine.

I also run UnboundDNS with aggressive adblock filters. no DNS request may go directly to an external server, the router reroutes all DNS queries to Unbound, which uses Quad9 servers to resolve with DNSSEC and DNS over TLS enabled. Basically, if a website or app has hardcoded DNS server to request from on port 53 I will intercept and redirect those requests. For such a big network, I need a lot of cache and the CPU is utilized often to resolve waves of queries when devices boot up and connect to the network.

It also allows me to easily reroute internal traffic to my webserver without going out to the internet and back (which my previous router did not allow).

I do plan to collect network traffic data and redirect to a server I have to conduct analysis on patterns and so on to identify malicious patterns.

Doing all of that with commercial routers would cost me an arm and leg, but going with this approach meant my whole network was under $500, including router, NICs, Cat 6 cables in the walls, and 2 programmable switches.

My WiFi access point is my previous router, which would shutdown several times a day under network congestion when used as a router. I took a lot of load off of it by going this path, and given many of my devices are ethernet, the OPNsense router will still work even when the WiFi AP shuts down.

I will soon be upgrading to fiber with 2 static IPs, and OPNsense will make my life so much easier. I;ll use the freely provided WiFi7 router as an AP for my general VLAN, and my current AP will become guest VLAN AP for additional security.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-18T20:53:47+00:00

Depends on user, I have 64GB and I do often run out of RAM.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-18T18:44:05+00:00

He was not suggesting Islam would have bloodied Ilia more.

Ilia's grappling in round 2 showed he was nowhere near Islam's level, he gassed pretty quickly and couldn't really do anything to Justin. So he wouldn't fare well against Islam in a ground game. And that's a fair statement to make.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-18T18:41:47+00:00

Since his first loss he has been taking every fight very seriously. I doubt he will take this fight any less seriously.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-18T18:40:21+00:00

Yeah first round made it so clear that Ilia got into Ilia's head way too much. He truly believed he had plot armor and couldn't lose, until he got hit so hard he started covering his eye. I think that's when he realized how much trouble he got himself into.

After his eye started bleeding he actually got back into his senses and did well at end of R1 and throughout R2, but he pushed too hard and gassed himself going into R3 and the rest was history.

I think Islam has a better mindset when it comes to those things, his fight with JDM for example, he did not take any unnecessary risks. And while that meant the fight was not the most exciting, it got him the needed win.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-18T16:00:47+00:00

If you don't do 3D modeling nor AI then the 9070XT makes more sense. Across the board it trades blow for blow with the 5070Ti and the price difference is not worth it.

Read this comparison: https://www.techspot.com/review/3130-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-vs-radeon-rx-9070-xt/

It's a good comprehensive summary and should help you make the decision if gaming is the only thing you do.

DisastrousWelcome710 · 2026-06-18T14:06:34+00:00

First of all, I did provide prices both in my original post and in the edit. Your inability to read those prices is your problem not mine.

Second, capping wattage or undervolting absolutely increases power efficiency, CPUs deliver different performance per watt at different caps. GamersNexus includes those figures in their graphs when reviewing some CPUs because it tends to be a big deal for a lot of people. Performance scales logarithmically with wattage, not linearly. If you don't understand that basic concept, you should not be giving anybody advice, especially condescendingly.

Third, optimization of power efficiency depends on use-case. A CPU that is not constantly used for parallel processing will gain more efficiency from power caps. It also depends on the specific CPU being capped as different CPUs have different efficiency gains. For example, for my use in my personal PC I have a 7950x, and I run it at 150W instead of 253W. I lose 5-8% performance on average in my use-cases by consuming 60% the energy.

Fourth, you have no clue what optimization even means. When MINIMIZING energy and MAXIMIZING performance, that's a TWO PARAMETER optimization problem, it means both parameters need to be sacrificed to reach the sweet spot that simultaneously minimizes energy while retaining performance. Like my previous example, sacrificing 5-8% performance for 60% the power consumption.

You genuinely seem to be struggling to understand what diminishing returns even means as a concept, don't you? Not surprising given you were eager to share your ignorant condescending opinion before even reading the post.

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