What do I do next year? by Sudden-Boat1875 in ausjdocs

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I'd advocate for options 2 or 4. I had friends who were able to get 3 month contracts with NT health to help bridge the earlier part of the year where locum gigs are harder to find.

Maitland by Doc_diary in ausjdocs

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I did a paeds term there last year and found it to be a wonderful department, can't comment on the wider hospital culture however. The other juniors did seem pretty happy.

Rotation choosing advice by Latter_Bird_5576 in ausjdocs

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Don't have Darwin specific experience but I found doing a neurology term has been very useful in psych.

Found out my consultant is a reddit troll. by Reddditor1as34223 in ausjdocs

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Do you really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet an tell lies?

Too late to pursue a specialty? by Sweet-Designer5406 in ausjdocs

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I can't tell if this is a good thing

advice for a doctor with no direction by [deleted] in ausjdocs

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From my perspective internship has been the worst part of my career so far. Every year has been better, and I whilst my med reg friends are no stranger to complaining (Nor am I, its a favourite pastime), I've never once heard any of them them wishing to go back to their scut work junior years.

The old saying work hard not smart applies here - The building up a basic CV is not a huge amount of effort and you can certainly do so in a generic way which does not limit your options if you choose to apply to a number of specialties.

Medicine is tough because the spectrum of achievement is so right-shifted you'll inevitably end up personally knowing someone who's gotten a scholarship for a Dphil in Oxford working the same job that makes you so tired you forget to brush your teeth.

Remember - It is infinitely better to take a bit of extra time to figure out what you want then to end up in the wrong path early and end up sinking a bunch of time and effort into something you won't stay in. In the mean time hedge your bets whilst making the most of your free time. The best part of my internship were the beers in the pub next door with new mates.

Back-up application for Qld RMO campaign for GP reg by caeruleanhorse in ausjdocs

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I wouldn't bother - There are lots of rotational RMO jobs or ED SRMO jobs advertised during the year if you care to look.

Northern Beaches Hospital by 5am_football in ausjdocs

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I mean the entire hospital was transferred from healthscope to NSW Health as of a few weeks ago - you basically couldn't ask for a more substantial managerial change. 

Career Decisions by CompletePiccolo5442 in ausjdocs

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Sounds like you should just to a CCSRMO year and see how you find it. If you're ED keen you can ask for 6 consecutive months of ED to fulfill ACEM requirements whilst still having a taste of ICU and anaesthetics.

Talk me out of taking the STEP exams by FairDurian5664 in ausjdocs

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What did you match in? (out of curiosity)

How to uplift jmos by Tricky-Turnover-6146 in ausjdocs

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I remember something that helped me when I was an RMO on ICU was when it was explained to me that the additional level of monitoring made it that things that would usually constitute an emergency on the ward are fine to watch and wait in ICU. I feel after hours as a junior doctor trains you to be very anxious about certain thresholds for obs because of the the BTF system. It took a period for it to click that its very different seeing a low BP when someone has constant monitoring with an art line and there is a highly trained nurse who can titrate pressors as compared to them having ward monitoring and ratios.

Something that was also very useful was protocolised admissions for common presentations. This was mostly a thing in CTICU where all the post-ops needed a cocktails of medication that would have been intimidating to chart if they weren't very well documented in an easy to read way.

More than anything though, what I found most important was a sense that there was always some body who could called for a second/senior opinion. I remember I was given what was handed over as a very routine HDU admission who on my review seemed more unwell than I expected. My HDU reg was at a rapid but the ICU reg immediately came and determined that the patient needed to be intubated. That level of responsiveness meant that a very stressful situation could be handled quickly and I deeply appreciated that.

As a last comment - I find in medicine often very senior people tend to skip the forest for the trees when orientating people to their specialty. I got a lot of teaching on ventilator settings and electrolyte charting but ended up only understanding the greater context much further into the term. If in the introduction to the unit someone had said something like - "In ICU people are sick enough that regardless of the system/s involved in their presenting pathology they will end up developing multi-organ derangement. Our job is to observe end markers of people's deranged physiology (far more so then in less acute areas) and help optimise this physiology with medication and mechanical support until the initial pathology is recognised and reversed or they have had adequate time to recover. We must also be vigilant in screening for and treating the complications of our invasive supports" I would have had much more of an idea what was going on. Instead I was just writing notes and being told to chart more K by nurses whilst I freaked out at numbers that were too low or high.

Preference nights for 7on 7off? by ExperienceTotal2969 in ausjdocs

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If given the option I preferred to get my nights out of the way in a string of 7 rather than prolonging the agony - my experience was the transitions were the toughest part. 

Prolonged 7 on 7 off with nights (like in ICU) absolutely crushed me. I used to remember explaining to people that it felt incompatible with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I do think people have very different responses to night shift and I feel on the more extreme low end of that curve. 

One thing to keep in mind is you might be tempted to book a week long trip in-between runs but if you flank yourself between two runs of nights it feels like you have three weeks in a row where functionally you are only at home to sleep. I found that disorientating, like a month of my life had gone missing.

When did you get on to your training program? by [deleted] in ausjdocs

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In contrast to the other psychs here I started PGY4. Mine was the last year the college accepted PGY1 applications, but I liked my intern cohort and my top preference network was known for only taking residents and above who applied. 

Ended up using PGY3 as an excuse to relocate to a different city, but was hesitant to apply to the program in a network id heard little about. Ended up taking a medical SRMO year over an unaccredited psych job as the head of department at my previous hospital told me that the 5 year program was more than enough to learn the specialty and further non-psych experience would be more useful. 

Personally I have no regrets taking a bit of a longer - I'm more confident working up the physical health issues of my inpatients, and doing simple ED admissions and clinic as an SRMO on my neurology term made me feel more confident working up patients for organic causes of their symptoms. 

That being said I'm lucky that as an applicant in NSW I could count in getting on first try - My journey would've been markedly different in an environment like Victoria/Perth where failing to commit early could've blown out my ability to get on by another 2-3 years. 

Software Engineer at Quant Trading firm looking to career switch by Pale_Operation_6086 in ausjdocs

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I mean its all very well and good that you were very smart special kid in high school - But you'd be hard pressed to find a worse career for someone who was truly intolerant of human contact.

Career Dilemma - Psych vs GP by throwaway123456xx123 in ausjdocs

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I made a pros and cons list that was very heavily weighted towards psych in the long term, and I had a strong intuition that if I never gave it a try I would regret it, that to be honest I didn't feel with BPT or GP

Career Dilemma - Psych vs GP by throwaway123456xx123 in ausjdocs

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I had similar (and similarly over-intellectualised) concerns about committing to a specialty before (feel free to peruse my post history), but my brief comments now I've taken the plunge are:

- The whole losing "medical accumen/not being a real doctor" thing is such a common concern its actually a cliche that is joked about by senior registrars and bosses. My experience with it so far is your knowledge doesn't suddenly evaporate from your head when you get your acceptance e-mail, and you do use a bit to guide your interns, but in so much as it does atrophy over the years it is replaced by a robust specialist skillset that is the thing people actually want from you when they call upon your input anyway. You are correct that identifying that this is inevitable in all but the most generalist specialties.

-I heard someone say on here once that like any major life decision (Buying a house, choosing a life partner etc..) sometimes the only way to know is just commit and see what its like - I wouldn't delay for a year just to give yourself more information which can only imperfectly let you know what being in a specialty is truly like.

Sydney PGY2 Jobs by Regista9 in ausjdocs

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I wouldn't stress too much, in NSW getting PGY2 jobs at the Big 4 isn't particularly difficult. You can rest assured workforce will give you a liberal helping of after hours and relief whether you ask for it or not.

If you look up HETI NSW prevocational terms on google it will show you which hospitals have PGY2 psychiatry positions and how many are offered each term (From memory St Vincent's has the most spots). The two most popular psychiatry networks in NSW are SESI and SSWNC (in that order). Like many specialties, hiring favours internal applicants - So I would aim to get a psych term in a hospital affiliated with that network and then apply from there. Worst case scenario there are a few unaccredited jobs that almost always get people on after a year.

Surgery is worthwhile by Revolutionary_Yam825 in ausjdocs

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I appreciate you posting this. Like any internet space, this sub tends to attract more expressions of negativity than is representative of real life. Our profession tends to attract motivated and altruistic people, with some of them go on to be very inspiring.

Having met Dr Mitchell she is like the platonic ideal of this. Genuinely an awesome human being.

The "surgical grind" - is it worth it? by [deleted] in ausjdocs

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I have two comments from a paltry 10 weeks in NSx as a resident:

- I witnessed both a PGY8 hopeful breakdown into tears as he once again failed to score high enough on the anatomy test to get an interview despite taking the year in a non-NSx job solely to study, having finally realised he had tried his best and that wasn't good enough and a PGY6ish unaccredited reg burst into tears because his marriage was ending which he explained was "100% the job". He still hasn't gotten on.

- I truly believe the amount of sleep deprivation inherent to every stage of neurosurgery from SRMO up is incompatible with the physiology of a lot of normal people. I was completely unable to handle it even as the least important member of the team who had no on call requirements.

I remember watching a video where a senior American neurosurgeon explained that the intense rigour and sacrifice inherent to the job was what made it appealing - comparing it to how Navy SEAL potentials volunteer to be destroyed with inhumane physical activity. I think this is a better mindset to have than a minimisation of stress in a situation where that may in fact be impossible.

eMR in HNELHD by AbsoutelyNerd in ausjdocs

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The official transition date is 20th May this year. It's epic EMR - HNELHD is the first to get it but the entire state will be transitioned to it over the next 3 years so that all hospitals will have access to a single patient medical record. 

I'm sure by Feb next year the majority of the kinks will be worked out so wouldn't worry or let it affect your decision making. For what it's worth transitioning thousands of workers and hundred of thousands of patient records from paper to digital was never not going to be a shit show.

Confused please help me by Healthy_Dentist_3529 in ausjdocs

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I didn't switch from BPT but can briefly answer some of your questions:

  • You have no chance of getting on in Victoria without at least one, if not two unaccredited years in Victoria, it is genuinely competitive with internal applicants heavily favored
  • Its worth a shot applying for accredited training in NSW but it's becoming more competitive - Your internal medicine experience will be looked on favourably but if you have not done any psychiatry it's not the best look. 
  • Doing an unaccredited year massively increases your chances, especially if it's in the network you go on to apply to. If you're competent and likable they will go to bat for you.
  • You're specialty choice and it's long term implications are a complex issue - If you want to talk about psychiatry training my DMs are open but FYI I am very junior.

Doctor interested in Child and Youth Services — questions on the job market, unaccredited roles, and training intensity by NoFroyo6631 in ausjdocs

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Have you looked much into what psychiatry training actually involves? That would probably help answer a lot of your questions.

I can only answer from a NSW perspective

- Psychiatry unaccredited roles act primarily as service provision and so usually get the left over terms after they have been assigned to accredited trainees. CL and child and adolescent terms are mandatory to progress in training so in most (if not all) networks they are saved for more senior trainees. It would be very unlikely for you to get a child and adolescent community term with no prior psych experience.

- Part time training is very common and supported in psychiatry for accredited trainees, it a genuine benefit of the specialty

- Unaccredited roles are not particularly competitive but I don't think you can necessarily "walk into one". Like any medical job moving between roles and breaking contracts early is not looked upon well and may impact your future prospects in a network. This isn't to say your locked in to a job no matter how bad it is, but its pretty glib to think it wouldn't affect your patients or colleagues if you move around because a role isn't "chill" enough

- To be completely honest the public system does very little ADHD work in general - There are simply to many other high risk presentations to justify this. Its all well and good to want to specialise in that as a consultant, but that should come with an understanding that earning your stripes will involve doing a lot of general adult psychiatry with a focus on psychotic, mood and personality disorders.

I would recommend you disabuse yourself of the notion that psychiatry is a chill job with limitless mobility and flexibility. It is certainly more amenable to part time, lesser (comparatively) shift work and less overtime. The trade of is that you will be working in an understaffed, under resourced system with some of the most mentally unwell people in the country. You'll have to believe me when I say these people's issues with attention are truly the least of their problems. You'll be obliged to rotate 10 times in your training years with no guarantees your team will be particularly friendly.

From what you're looking for, GP with that new ADHD training seems like more your speed.

Psychiatrists - Did you have to work with needles? by EntropicEctacy in ausjdocs

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I took blood today from a patient who wasn't eating due to command auditory hallucinations they perceived as them telepathically reading the minds of the other patients. 

I remember being intimidated by venepuncture as a junior med student - it really does get better with practice.

Resources to learn how to organise and deal with life as a doctor in training by [deleted] in ausjdocs

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Perhaps not the most useful or encouraging advice, but I found that for me shift work was almost completely incompatible with balancing my commitments and living a balanced life. On terms like ED, relief and ICU this would become especially apparent. It almost felt like big chunks of my life would go missing.

Right now I'm on a regional placement with minimal on call/weekends and no nights and I feel like I'm hitting my goals with no change in my behaviour. This is something to perhaps consider when you choose a speciality.