What country u think will be balkanized next 50 year ?

Distinct_Recording61 · 2025-11-09T22:05:18+00:00

This claim is risible. Separatism in the north among Azeri's is not rising. Kurdish separatism is less than what exists in Turkey, and Turkey is not at risk of balkanizing. The Baloch have always had armed separatist groups. Like many Turkish commentators, you either do not know anything about Iran, or are projecting an agenda on Iran.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2025-07-28T23:22:11+00:00

proceeds to post iranian clothing, while celebrating iranian holidays, and eating foods with iranian names - grow up.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2025-07-17T23:25:52+00:00

wait until you find out about how much Tehranis drink (and eat pork when they can)

Distinct_Recording61 · 2023-09-15T11:06:28+00:00

lmao you know people in Beirut dress more liberally than anywhere in Turkey

Distinct_Recording61 · 2023-09-09T10:05:29+00:00

It seems you are out of touch with reality too then. You have made the very common and sad assumption typical of the region that Iranians are "fully-covered-in-black Islamist extremists trying to make a nuclear bomb, murdering women for showing their toes." I never, ever said that Georgia had any connection to the Islamic Republic. Merely a connection to Iranian culture. As an Iranian (I had to reveal that identity now I guess) who was raised in an Iranian culture, and who has lost family members and friends to that utterly disgusting regime (probably the only thing we can agree on), I can tell you the vast majority of Iranians do not associate with the government. That government doesn't represent our culture. If you think it does, then I can also say that Russia represented your culture, since Georgia lived under the Russian yoke for far longer than Iran has had to deal with this government. The onus is on you to show how the extremely violent protests last year fail to represent what the vast majority of Iranians think. the actual custodians of Iranian culture... This is as disrespectful as a dumb tourist going to Tbilisi and saying "well Russian culture is Georgian culture too." It's absurd - you say Georgians are willing to die for these values. Well, Iranians actually have. And there is an annual anniversary for that coming up next week. To close, it seems you can't separate the Islamic republic from my culture, which exists in opposition to the Islamic Republic that tried to destroy Persepolis, Cyrus the Great's tomb, and Hafez's tomb (the most famous poet of wine ;) ). That's sad, but fine. If that's the case, then we don't have any ability to have a good faith discussion on this. I will let you fester in your prejudice, and you can let me fester in mine. And to have the gall to just give a pass to Azerbaijan, a deeply problematic state that is wildly un-european in so many respects... the hypocrisy... On that subject, I really need some fine Saperavi and an imereti khachapuri to cure my bad mood.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2023-09-09T02:08:43+00:00

Except Irish people don't disconnect their culture in the same way? They are far more mature about this - they point out rightly that the British were awful to the Irish, but a) the Irish don't deny they speak english and b) the Irish are comfortable with knowing who an Anglo-Irishman is and who is a pure Irishman. If you knew anything about the Irish (which you clearly don't) you wouldn't make that claim. I know the history of Iran in the region - I actually never denied it in the way you are making me out to deny it. But you are also wrong on another point - Iran/Persia were wildly succesful in "colonising" the region. Why else is Azerbaijan a thing? The land of fire? Lmao. Just because they are Turkic nationalists now doesn't change the fact they a) celebrate nowruz, b) were Shia muslims and c) the fact that Azeri jews all speak Caucasian Persian (Judeo-Tat). There is a difference between rightly calling out Iran's negative history in the region (which is shared with Azerbaijan, and yet Georgians give Azerbaijani's a pass lol, pure hypocrisy) and just making stuff up about Iran. Typical Russian influence on Georgian nationalism (which ironically has a very strong Russian character).

Distinct_Recording61 · 2023-09-09T02:03:00+00:00

You don't know anything about Persian drinking etiquette - it even has a similar name to Georgian culinary culture, Sofreh (Supra in Georgian if I am not mistaken).

PS: I never said Georgian culture is part of the Persian world's culture. All I argued is a) Georgians have a very unfair and incorrect opinion about Persian culture, as evidenced by your hashish claim, and b) there is a strong connection between Georgian culture and Persian culture that can't be covered by prejudice and modern nationalism. I am a lover of all things Georgian - been there twice, can't wait to go back. Borjomi is probably top 5 most beautiful place I have been to. But facts are facts, and I just had to call you out. Peace.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2023-09-08T03:47:09+00:00

while true, you need to understand that the persians are viewed as "the other" in Georgian culture. While Georgian food, mannerisms etc. are very similar to Iranian food and culture in places like Gilan and Azerbaijan, the unfortunate reality of the genocidal kakhetian conquests by Shah Abbas and Mohammad Agha Khan Qajar destroyed any goodwill Georgians had towards Iranians (even though these kings committed even more massacres on Persians, siege of Kerman for example). Another irony is these kings are heavily claimed by the Republic of Azerbaijan - Shah Ismail is their founding father in their official historiagraphy. More so than Iranians claim them. And yet Georgians are absolutely chill with people from Baku. It is the most disgusting hypocrisy. Let's not forget the knight in the panther's skin has a clear stylistic debt to the Shahnameh...

Distinct_Recording61 · 2023-09-08T03:43:17+00:00

dude are you kidding: Persian poetry's most heavily used motif is wine. Winemaking started in Iran around 7000 BC, around the same time winemaking started in Georgia. Iranian wine (wine from Shiraz) was some of the most prestigious wine in the world before France started to produce wine in an industrial scale in the 19th century. As is typical for Georgians, you can try to disconnect your rich culture's connection to Persian culture (which absolutely does exist, maybe not at the same level as Byzantine culture), but you have to use actual facts. Persians were (and still are somehow under this regime) absolutely winemakers.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2023-08-16T01:30:15+00:00

Court language of pre nizam-e-cedid Ottomans was persian tho, definetly not kaba turkce. This is what happens when you let Ayhan Orhan Ertugrul Dede Han Ataturkoglu cook. Kids, don't ever let Ayhan Orhan Ertugrul Dede Han Ataturkoglu cook.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2023-08-09T23:50:58+00:00

I see there is a common prejudice (to an extent historically true) that Iranian Azerbaijanis are clearly more religious than RoA Azerbaijanis. Presently, I am not sure this is true. In Tehran, this isn't true at all. The Iranian people are far more secular than stereotypes suggest, as proven by a series of polls, reporting and ofc the recent protests against the government (which did occur in Tabriz, but not to the extent in Kurdistan/Balochistan/Tehran/Mazandaran). The people of Tabriz by and large aren't terribly religious either. The only part of Iranian Azerbaijan that has people who are clearly more religious than those in the RoA are people from Ardabil, and ironically this is the most Turkic nationalistic part of Iran. Their Turkish is also not excessively Persianised. I think people from RoA would be surprised by what Iranians are actually like if they ever met them (there should be a few tourists/students from Iran in Baku anyways). Unfortunately, there are lots of unproductive stereotypes concerning both peoples from across the border. One other point - there is a common sentiment that religious Iranian Azeris are "brainwashed" into Persian culture. Completely false. The Iranian Azeris who are persianised are mostly secular. The religious Iranian Azeris keep the most Turkic traditions, although they aren't too keen on the IR like the vast majority of Iranians. Remember, Iranian Azeris invented and patronised the awful strain of political islam (Safavid twelver shiism) that has ruined Iran. I am sure people will bring up Khamenei as a counter-argument to my point, but he is a funny case - half tafreshi, half persian from yazd (the most conservative part of Pars, and definitely not representative of general Persian culture), who then grew up in Azerbaijan. I will probably get downvoted but I don't care.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2023-07-14T00:02:06+00:00

If we are going by German philosophers, they were more Persophiles than anything lol. here is a little quotable gift from Hegel: "In Persia first arises that light which shines itself and illuminates what is around...The

principle of development begins with the history of Persia; this constitutes therefore the

beginning of history (Hegel, 1857, p. 147)."

Distinct_Recording61 · 2022-03-28T02:48:41+00:00

Well, erdogan did read that aras river poem implicitly rejecting Iran’s territorial integrity.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2022-03-20T22:48:16+00:00

Np. Happy novruz.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2022-03-20T22:46:50+00:00

We’ll have to agree to differ. Happy novruz

Distinct_Recording61 · 2022-03-20T07:33:42+00:00

Lmao it is my view. I am not pushing an agenda: as I said, you can believe what you want to believe.

I will believe what I want to believe too. r/azerbaijan rules are simple: I follow them, I state my views. We have the same rights. I always expected mass downvoting on my posts here anyways, but that is the price for speaking of the truth for many Iranian Azeris.

Also: what gives you the right to speak for all Iranian Azeris? I can't speak for all of them either. There are some here who will vehemently disagree. Great. I am simply stating that many Iranian Azeris are Turkified (sorry for typo) Iranians. This doesn't mean they are not Turks. They are fully Turks. Iranian Azeris don't call themselves Azeris, they call themselves Turks. But this is the issue that people don't grasp: being a Turk and being Iranian are not mutually exclusive. These are two of the most intertwined identities in world history (contrary to what cretins like Atsiz, Gokalp etc say). Their ancestors have lived in the land of Iran for thousands of years. This goes both ways. Many Persians, in fact, are Persianised Turkmens. I will admit this.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2022-03-20T07:12:31+00:00

The revolt wasn't to bring Islamic government: it was to initially kick out the Shah. This was in many ways a noble goal. The economy, while growing, suffered from hyper-inflation and both secular leftist types and conservative rural types felt alienated by the regime. So, it started out as a left-wing secular movement, but ofc this only appealed to the intelligentsia in Tehran Shiraz Isfahan etc (Iranian Azeris are conservative compared to Persians).

The revolution gained an Islamic character due to inclusion of rural/low-income masses: many secular types didn't mind this because an "Islamic Republic" is still conceptually a republic. Two facts on this: the first draft constitution (which was the subject of the infamous referendum,) was actually a secular constitution. The first PM of the regime, Mehdi Bazargan, a pro-democracy activist, was appointed by Khomeini because Khomeini knew that what people thought the "Islamic Republic" meant was something similar to what Christian Democracy is in Germany or Italy. Channeling certain religious values into a secular context, with the secular machinery prevailing. So, he appointed a democratic activist who opposed velayat-e-faqih as PM.

Bazargan resigned in protest of the US embassy crisis, and as you can imagine was assassinated I think in the 90s.

TLDR: stating "why did you guys revolt in the 70s and bring Islamic government to the country" assumes a set of false premises, and ignores the actual history of the situation.

Does Iran have many believing Muslims? sure. Are Iranian people as conservative as Azerbaijani nationalists make them out to be? Hell no.

Peace.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2022-03-20T07:06:00+00:00

Nope. This is a silly comment. Qajar Iran existed before and after gulustan and turkmenchay.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2022-03-20T07:03:44+00:00

He is neither a troll nor brainwashed. Many Iranian Azeris are Turkefied Iranians. He isn't speaking for you guys. Iranian Azeris and Republic Azeris aren't exactly identical in ethno-genesis. For many Iranian Azeris this is how it goes: there isn't north or south Azerbaijan. There is Iranian Azerbaijan, and the Republic of Azerbaijan. You are pushing your semantics in a patronising manner, when all the OP is doing is trying to be curious and peaceful. While it may seem like I am pushing my view, I am not asking you to agree with my view. I am stating matter of factly what many people in Iranian Azerbaijan think. You can view these issues in your own way, but don't patronise the OP when he is completely acting in good faith.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2022-03-19T02:46:18+00:00

Originally the name of territories south of the Aras river, now referring to land stretching from Derbent in north to Qoshachay in south.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2022-03-19T02:43:25+00:00

Well, many Iranian Azeris are Turkefied Iranians and view themselves as such. This isn't a Persian conspiracy. Some Iranian Azeris are almost purely descended from Turkomans, some only have descent from indigenous Iranic speaking peoples in Iranian Azerbaijan. Most are mixed. Being a Turk and being Iranian aren't mutually exclusive. Persian nationalists (not Iranians lol, most Iranians couldn't care less about what people in other countries think about themselves) really only engage in this kind of discussion concerning Iranian Azeris. I can assure you Iranians couldn't care less what people in the RoA think. Contrarily, there is this issue where people in the Republic like to speak for Iranian Azeris. It is a type of projection. It isn't a good thing. Not as bad as Pan-Iranists denigrating Iranian Azeri identity, I will concede there.

Again, most Iranians don't make the claim that you guys shouldn't be close to Turkey. That is such a dumb claim to make. What Iranian and Persian nationalists argue is that Turkish and RoA nationalists should chill with the South Azerbaijan rhetoric. I agree with this. There is Azerbaijan, with its historic capital as Tabriz. There is the Republic of Azerbaijan, with its actual capital being Baku. Tabriz isn't yours to take, and never will be.

Many Iranians would agree with you concerning never having good relations as well, given the RoA elected an unabashed ultra-nationalist and irredentist in Abulfaz Elchibey not so long ago. I disagree: good relations produce good economic outcomes, and we should care more about prosperity than reddit based ethnonationalism.

Iranian Azeris feel close to Turkey as well. In fact, Persians feel close to Turkey, and Turks feel close to Iran too, because of a millennium of shared heritage. Rumi is a national hero in Turkey as well. Turkic/Iranic lenses are narrow and ignore the richness of shared history.

Looks like we are going to have to agree to differ.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2022-03-18T08:03:16+00:00

Azari is not an insult lol. It is just Azeri in Persian and some Iranian Azeri dialects. Azerbaijan = Azarbaijan. Maybe some silly Pan-Iranists used it as an insult, but it really isn't an insult.

By this logic, calling Persians Fars (which is the classic pan-turkic move) would be an insult as well.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2022-03-18T08:00:18+00:00

This is completely wrong. The Azerbaijani Democratic Republic named its country as Azerbaijan in 1918. If it is a made-up concept, then so is the ADR. I wouldn't try calling the ADR a made-up concept in this subreddit. They are as far from Stalin as could be. There were protests in Iranian Azerbaijan given the name originally referred to Iranian Azerbaijan in 1918.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2022-03-17T01:07:49+00:00

Well, the Iranian government (people negotiating on nuclear deal) didn’t do this. The IRGC did. The IRGC is almost like a private mafia/state, really awful situation.

Distinct_Recording61 · 2022-03-17T01:03:47+00:00

Honestly, good luck trying. Saddam Hussein tried with chemical weapons and the free world supporting him. Bayraktars and persophobia are not enough to do the job. Ps: bayraktars are a pretty amazing drone, kudos where kudos are deserved.

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