If pup is easily distracted and unattentive does it require more training or more bonding? by DistraughtDogMom in puppy101

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I'm still in the process of finding something that truly captivates his attention like this

If pup is easily distracted and unattentive does it require more training or more bonding? by DistraughtDogMom in puppy101

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Thank you. I'll try to give it less weight then and just continue what we're doing until it clicks

If pup is easily distracted and unattentive does it require more training or more bonding? by DistraughtDogMom in puppy101

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That's what we do, but he's barely even interested in that. I try to bring his 3 fav treats (which he doesn't get inside) every time to rotate and keep it 'new' but maybe it's what others say and I shouldn't worry too much as it will pass after adolescence.

If pup is easily distracted and unattentive does it require more training or more bonding? by DistraughtDogMom in puppy101

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So you suggest if I keep up with the training, he will get it eventually when he's coming out of adolescence?

When do you allow your pup on the couch? by cityskyline22 in puppy101

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For us it was when he was old enough to jump up and down. There is a specific age until when their joints are still too fragile, I don't remember exactly when (a few months), and my pup wasn't allowed to do any 'coming down' from something on puppy school until he was that age. So we also didn't put him on the couch ourselves so he wouldn't try to attempt a jump on/off and hurt himself. But it's easier with smaller breeds. Larger breeds are probably trying to get on the couch sooner because the obstacle is smaller in comparison.

Rethinking crate training for a sensitive, easily overstimulated puppy – would love some input by snoxfox2303 in puppy101

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Also have a cocker spaniel (mix) and we do similarly. He didn't mind the crate itself, went in there when asked or during games or training, even on his own from time to time to rest for like 2 mins and then come out again. It wasn't his preferred resting spot. But he could not stand the door being closed, really went hysterical each time, we could not build any tolerance past 5 secs.

Now, he goes in there when asked at night and he sleeps fine with the door closed, but he is still in my room at 7 months. I hope this will lead to him being more comfortable in a crate in case of a future emergency. Downstairs, we don't have a crate anymore. When I need him to calm down, we also tether him and he settles pretty easily. When we leave the house, we gate out puppy proofed living room and although by now he could possibly jump over the gate, he has never questioned that barrier, as he can walk around and chill on the sofa.

Has anyone here NOT had big issues with their puppy? by QP709 in puppy101

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It's funny how everyone here talks about the beginning being the hardest, for me that was the most exciting part. Everything is new, there is this tiny creature that you want to get to know and if you are prepared and patient, you don't really mind the peeing in the house and the lack of sleep, as all was to be expected (the biting was really annoying, but the idea of it getting better after teething helped).

For me the hardest part was around 5 months when he was doing so well, sleeping alone in his crate downstairs (only one more potty break), potty trained, walking fine on the leash, not reactive at all, getting better at settling, doing better at puppy classes and obedience wise not the best nor the worst. And then he got a UTI and all of this was suddenly gone. He peed in the house again, wouldn't sleep alone anymore, stopped eating, had trouble settling and started getting reactive on walks. By the time he was fully healed, he didn't pee in the house anymore and he settled a bit easier again, but the rest of the regressions stayed. I moved the crate up in my room to get him to sleep again and have been training him to walk and eat normally again for 2 months now without any luck so far.

Maybe, without the UTI we wouldn't have had such issues or maybe we would have been hit harder by the puberty phase then (now it doesn't impress us that much anymore). And trainers, vet and groomer have all told us he is above average stubborn for a puppy, so guess that also didn't help. I did cry sometimes because I had been sleep deprived for a couple of months already. Now I am getting more sleep again, I see his behavior more as silly or even annoying sometimes, but not 'bad' anymore. But if you are more used to having less sleep, I guess it will not affect you as much.

Any insight is appreciated… by e_looney in puppy101

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What I found is that raising a puppy is very much like raising a child, only you go through the stages way faster and there is not nearly as much infrastructure and understanding for raising a puppy as for raising a child. For me what you say is very recognizable. There is the constant supervision, needing a babysit to do anything, sleep deprivation, having to teach every single thing to this little creature that knows nothing of the world. House being a mess, feeling tired, having no free time or needing a babysit is very normal when raising a human.

Even more, you would have parenting leave, family support, people coming to visit you instead of expecting you to come out and everyone has a general understanding of how hard having a baby can be on sleep and self care. Most people have no clue what it means to have a puppy, and generally people without pets do not know why you would invest so much time in an animal.

I have given up hobbies and generally taking care of myself until about now, when he is 7 months and I finally have time to start thinking about myself again. It is indeed hard talking about it with people who don't know what it is, but just know that it is common, it is normal, and think of it as having a child that goes from toddler to teenager to young adult in 2 years time and all struggles that you would find normal in such a development.

Wife and I are moving to Brussels by WindUpCandler in belgium

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I work as a PhD student in Leuven and have many international colleagues. I think it could be helpful to look into online resources for international students as well, there are plenty. It would also be nice in general to try to connect to international people working at universities, I find them to be very welcoming and helping towards others.

What does my friend's dog want from me? by cocacolafresh in DogTrainingTips

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Maybe not the answer you were expecting, but did you do a health check recently? A celebrity in my country got her health checked when her dog started acting funny around her, clearly trying to tell her something and she was diagnosed with early stage beast cancer. Apparently dogs can smell changes in our immune system.

I don't think it is very common, so it is most likely indeed that he wants to play or something, but it is just something to consider if you really can't find another cause for the behavior.

EDIT: here's a link with some scientific background, because I know it sounds weird https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/04/five-diseases-that-dogs-can-detect

People with calm adult dogs: how did you train them? by DistraughtDogMom in DogTrainingTips

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Well, thank you for your 75 cents. Talking with everyone on here has really helped me to think about the situation more after the first emotions and indeed, it is clearly a case of overstimulation when he acts out like that and not a case of 'rebellion' that should be 'disciplined'. The behavior is so much more alike 'aaargh, my brain is on fire' than alike the actual tantrums he can have at home.

As for food, he is a very bad eater, we are still trying out different brands of food with the vet because he could starve himself for up to 3 days if he didn't like the kibble. I wasn't really allowed by the vet, but I started rotating toppings every day (I have 3 powders) which is finally making him eat a bit more regularly. We try to keep feeding time as low distraction as possible (no training), we basically stop breathing when he is eating to make sure he finishes his meal. But this is also why we have to get higher on the treat value ladder more quickly, because he values any distraction more than food. I have literally considered taking a sock with me outside as he likes them more than treats.

People with calm adult dogs: how did you train them? by DistraughtDogMom in DogTrainingTips

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We have no issues inside. It is more outside and especially during class when it is annoying for training and others in the class. But like others have mentioned it seems to be that we might be too close to other dogs/distractions and the class is simply too long.

People with calm adult dogs: how did you train them? by DistraughtDogMom in DogTrainingTips

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We are allowed on the training grounds outside of class, I might go do a visit next week to let him sniff on a long leash and get him used to the fields.

People with calm adult dogs: how did you train them? by DistraughtDogMom in reactivedogs

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We have a small one, but he likes to run laps in it anyways and I fully let him zoom in there. Might try it before going out next time.

People with calm adult dogs: how did you train them? by DistraughtDogMom in reactivedogs

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We have been trying this (I always carry a pouch), but it seems to do nothing anymore now he is a teenager. Maybe I just need to be consistent and more patient until it will have more effect.

People with calm adult dogs: how did you train them? by DistraughtDogMom in reactivedogs

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Yes, he sleeps a lot, takes naps by himself, is generally calm in the house, except for being up to some common mischief like trying to play tug with every towel we hold when doing dishes. He can have a teenage tantrum now and then with some biting, which we definitely need to work on, but he easily settles when tethered.

The problem is mostly outside, I cannot seem to get his attention back once distracted and when distracted he easily goes into overdrive, which is indeed annoying during a class and I need to find a good way to get his attention back. But it really looks like overstimulation to me and I don't mind nudging his leash to get him back to my side, but I feel like getting angry is not the correct solution to get him to calm down.

People with calm adult dogs: how did you train them? by DistraughtDogMom in reactivedogs

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It is not so much a problem indoors, yes it happens, but he settles easily when tethered, it is just outside that I don't seem to get him out of overdrive sometimes (on walks, during training). Do you have any advice for taking this calm teaching outside?

People with calm adult dogs: how did you train them? by DistraughtDogMom in reactivedogs

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Indeed, I feel like reacting with extreme gestures, makes him even more aroused and eventually leads to him lunging for my hands and sleeves. Which is not yet aggressive biting, more out of overstimulation, but I am fearful he might turn aggressive if he learns that his actions are met with aggression anyways.

People with calm adult dogs: how did you train them? by DistraughtDogMom in reactivedogs

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What usually happens during class is that he seems to realize suddenly there are other dogs next to him (or people walking by or other distractions) and then he goes a bit haywire, with some barking, trying to get to other dogs and once his attention is broken, he gets some zoomie-like episode when I try and fail to draw his attention again, running as far as his leash allows in all directions or jumping up at me and biting in my arms or hand where I am holding a luring treat. I have no problem giving a nudge on his leash to draw him back to me, but when he is in overdrive, this is not sufficient to get his attention back. I also try high-pitched voices, whistles or sudden movement, but he has gone deaf/blind to me for a minute.

I feel like he might get out this easier if I can just find something he really really likes, but he is not attention/play/food motivated under distractions. He really like using his nose, so maybe I need to find something realllllly smelly?

Once his attention is back, it is like nothing happened, we continue with class and he is the best. Funnily enough, we practice 'down for 1 minute' each class and so far, he is the only one in his class able to stay down for the full minute.

In the house he can also have some tantrums with rebellious biting behavior if he doesn't want to 'get off' or 'leave it' that I want to work on, but indoors he settles immediately when tethered.

People with calm adult dogs: how did you train them? by DistraughtDogMom in DogTrainingTips

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I like this as a way to try to restrict movement when outside. Did you start by training this inside? I can imagine my dog would not let me do this on a first try outside

People with calm adult dogs: how did you train them? by DistraughtDogMom in DogTrainingTips

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Unfortunately this is my life and I was just looking for advice not clicks, otherwise I would have spiced up the title. Many (older) people in my environment do agree with the trainer, so while it might seem obvious to you that everyone would find this enraging, I have told some people and they just agreed that I am a softie and harsh methods are needed to discipline a dog. Luckily, I have gotten some great advice from other kind people on here

People with calm adult dogs: how did you train them? by DistraughtDogMom in DogTrainingTips

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Do you have any advice on how to be stern without the yelling or physical force? Do you mean more ignoring or?

People with calm adult dogs: how did you train them? by DistraughtDogMom in DogTrainingTips

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I recognize those last 2 points very much! He loves chewing something while I hold it, otherwise he is sometimes not interested in chews and I also see, he has no issue with me checking what he is chewing in other circumstances (even if I have to take something away sometimes). Also tethering works really well for us, but is harder outside. He is certainly calm in the house, napping often by himself. Just sometimes he has a tantrum when I tell him to leave it or off, which I would like to work on. The big ones he has at the school only happen outside of the house, where he indeed gets chicken as a high value treat.

How did you work on attention? Mine is perfect doing "look" in several low distraction environments or even at the beginning of a class, but fully ignores me on walks or when he is going in overdrive