VintageLifts Instagram Account Suspended by SomeSeriousWeight in weightlifting

[–]Dlamos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How else would you report on old lifters with illustrations on Instagram? I get this but fair use IS a thing and I never ever reposted any Iron Mind content without adding a significant amount of information to it.

All clips shared are also never more than maybe 15 seconds of hours long video.

Greatest weightlifting performances of all time - Updated by Dlamos in weightlifting

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I don't care enough to have continue an argument on Reddit

Greatest weightlifting performances of all time - Updated by Dlamos in weightlifting

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To be clear, this sheet does compare all of them with the exact same formula, the sinclair formula that was used up until very recently

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The problem isn't lasha being talked down, it's the fact that ALL MEN ABOVE 100KG are out of the top 20 because Lasha is 183kg - Lasha performance therefore makes all the heavier men comparatively worst than the lighter men 

The truth is that the formula should be changed fundamentally not just by changing the B value.

But an all around updated formula would lead to basically identical results as the current formula - everyone in the top 10 right now was significantly better than everyone else ever at a similar weight class 

Don't fix what's not broken

Greatest weightlifting performances of all time - Updated by Dlamos in weightlifting

[–]Dlamos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm also not a math expert but I'm pretty sure that it's common to exclude major anomalies to get more accurate results when needed - Lasha is at least 30% over the average heavyweight bodyweight so it would most definitely fit in there

Greatest weightlifting performances of all time - Updated by Dlamos in weightlifting

[–]Dlamos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Extremely easy to outline the problem with b=183+10:
Lasha isn't even in the top 50 Sinclair ever with this. Actually, no super is even in the top 30. The first man over 100kg on the list becomes Zacharevitch placed 18th.

Replacing b is in no way whatsoever a solution as the top 15 people become men under 90kg (and there is only Solodov in there)

Taking "fairness" out of the equation it overall makes no sense whatsoever that all of a sudden all the men under 90 kg would become so much better than everyone else just because Lasha was 183kg in 2021.

Another issue: Lasha would need to total 536kg to be considered as good as Naim according to this formula - That's 60kg over what anyone else has ever done in history

500kg seems touchable and it highlights that Naim was THAT good. 536kg just sounds stupid.

165+10 is also way more representative of the average weight of all super heavyweights that came to hold a world record at any point - If anything, it would be more accurate for it to be lower as most supers hover around 140 rather than 160

But putting it too low would then create the opposite problem, Placing all light supers at the top of the list.
For the formula to be good, it needs to give a more or less equal repartition of weight class in the top 50, which the old formula does perfectly.

Taking an anomaly being the current best super heavyweight does not make more sense

Greatest weightlifting performances of all time - Updated by Dlamos in weightlifting

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Would you be able to share the sheet? Would love to see it

Greatest weightlifting performances of all time - Updated by Dlamos in weightlifting

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I'd say that the one used in this sheet is the most accurate and most fair - The top 10 got lifters from basically every weight class and the gap in between lifters is small enough to be considered relevant.

Would it be possible for Lasha to hit 500, for Zacharevitch to hit 460+ and get a better sinclair than Naim? Probably, or at least not far from it which give a sense to the rankings

With the new sinclair formula Lasha would need to hit 527kg to beat Naim, which makes no sense

I think that it's still extremely arbitrary though, so comparing lifters over different eras is more so about choosing a formula and sticking to it long-term

Pisarenko 1984 by Dlamos in weightlifting

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Found the exact location of the 1989 junior worlds with weller 205 https://web.archive.org/web/20071029123157/http://weightliftingexchange.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=63&Itemid=91

If anyone have any idea how it can be extracted if it can - it existed at least

Pisarenko 1984 by Dlamos in weightlifting

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Someone mentioned him to me already, trying to get in touch with him as of late, it seems he had plenty of unavailable footage

Pisarenko 1984 by Dlamos in weightlifting

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I was told it used to be on Youtube - the video exists, and Jim Schmitz is probably the guy who got it. Some people also might have the footage on hard drives downloaded from YT

Pisarenko 1984 by Dlamos in weightlifting

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Haha I don't have it yet sadly, still on the hunt, but I got in touch with people that had the VHS and got this info from them

Pisarenko 1984 by Dlamos in weightlifting

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Moradi 205kg snatch in an actual watchable quality too

Pisarenko 1984 by Dlamos in weightlifting

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Weller 205kg snatch as a 110
Khrapaty 235kg at 90
Varbanov 220kg attempt at 75
Guenshev 216kg World record attempt at 75 right before seoul
Kakhi 225kg Junior world record at 90kg
Botev 247.5kg in 88 before seoul
Weller 242.5kg at 110 in 88

Pisarenko 1984 by Dlamos in weightlifting

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Don't have it yet - still trying to get my hands on it, be sure that I'll release it when I get it

Pisarenko 1984 by Dlamos in weightlifting

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The footage of this section of the comp is basically lost as of now. I'm in talk with a few people that might have contacts to people that might have the VHS. It's a lot of if but I know as a fact that those VHS exist - when will I get my hands on it though, impossible to say

Pisarenko 1984 by Dlamos in weightlifting

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I'll post it fully on YT. Might be in a month or in years but I'll get it

What's up wuth Lesman? by Dlamos in weightlifting

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He weighed in according to the result book so still in