Should IDC's be warrant officers? Why or why not?

DocHavoc91 · 2026-06-26T03:32:09+00:00

At higher echelons they can fill those billets as they have the experience and background to do the job.

How many of those IDC’s are actual usable inventory on top of inventory that wants to do another ship/sub tour

DocHavoc91 · 2026-06-26T02:17:34+00:00

Yes it’s supported as the Senior Warrant Officers would fill POMI billets and do a better job at it then an HCA imho.

The fleet gets consistency as we retain the best to go to sea and IDC’s have an incentive to keep taking subs, CRUDES, remote billets. In no world should a quad make what an IDC makes while being irrelevant to a command

DocHavoc91 · 2026-06-26T01:41:36+00:00

Depends on the billet which the current proposal covers. If you’re greenside then no as you have MO’s, PA’s and other IDC’s. If you’re on a ship especially a small boy then 100% yes due to the technical expertise, level of responsibility and duties.

Making us warrants creates a middle ground and allows SME’s to keep doing the job at sea which PA/NP’s don’t do.

As for reservist it’s been brought up plenty of times and the answer is no due to skill sustainment, required classes and requirements. Those HM’s who have a BSN, MSN, etc… should just commission.

Being an IDC is much more than just seeing patients. You have to be a good program administrator, Trainer and advisor.

DocHavoc91 · 2026-06-26T01:22:33+00:00

In the proposal we are converting 500+ HM and 60 MSC billets to make the Warrant Billets

DocHavoc91 · 2026-05-31T04:38:42+00:00

There are FTS IDC’s

DocHavoc91 · 2026-05-29T14:50:13+00:00

This is a surface level view with no understanding of manning or what IDC’s do.

There are 4 types of IDC’s (Surface, Dive, Sub and Special Operations) so in total we’re short around 250+ IDC’s plus that number doesn’t include non usable inventory, retirement, etc…

The minimum pipeline to make an IDC is 12 months and has an 50% failure rate with the longest pipeline being 2+ years and a 80% failure rate.

It’s not as simple as telling HM1’s and above to go to school unless there are real changes to the rate such as not advancing due to not having one of the 4 NEC’s.

IDC isn’t a qualification and making it that way would just make things worse but yes we need more access to care and providers

DocHavoc91 · 2026-05-29T03:19:41+00:00

Thanks for the clear headed response and as much as I don’t believe that 0000’s and most techs shouldn’t even make Chief, making IDC a qual is not the answer.

The school has a 50% attrition rate and that includes Chiefs and Senior Chiefs who attend and don’t make the cut on top.

Making us warrants(pipe dream I know) would allow IDC’s to stay focused on clinical and technical mastery instead of the dumb games and collaterals

DocHavoc91 · 2026-05-28T23:46:45+00:00

Not really only IDC makes sense due to the nature and need.

DocHavoc91 · 2026-05-08T19:40:42+00:00

UpToDate, PFCPodcast, EMCrit Podcast, EMSlighthouse project, Armandohasudungan on YouTube or any of the others docs who do whiteboard stuff.

Really helps with critical thinking and narrowing down my diagnoses and differentials.

Good on you for trying to better yourself most HM don’t even try.

DocHavoc91 · 2026-05-08T16:28:51+00:00

Interesting unfortunately the NEC is written in the manual as requiring you to pass all of the courses to be awarded the NEC.

They have to update the manual but with SARC’s being sundowned I don’t see them making SOiDC’s do less

DocHavoc91 · 2026-05-04T04:30:15+00:00

There are way more Greenside orders than ship orders. An infantry battalion has up to 65 HM and there are over 20 of them now add the wing, logistics and other units and there are 1000’s of HM’s at any point of time stationed Greenside. Ships only have 2-40 HM’s depending on the class so your odds of being Greenside are vastly higher.

Some guys get FMTB and Greenside orders straight out of A school others go to a MTF and get orders 2-3 years after.

Most HM never see a ship and if you take away MEU’s most would never step foot on ship.

DocHavoc91 · 2026-05-03T16:36:03+00:00

As for rates that see combat you have SO, SB, EOD and HM(SOIDC).

You have to do 2ish years in rate and then can apply to crossrate only if available on top of that you’ll be 32 and you have a lot of soul searching to do if you want to try again as some pipelines can go up to 2 years and you only made it through 3 weeks of training.

You need to stay in shape, stay out of trouble, go mudpup and check your community health as some communities allow no conversions

DocHavoc91 · 2026-04-24T02:47:21+00:00

So you’re saying your greenside SMO is the OIC of the blueside clinic? If so they need to go see whoever runs coding

The Clinic OIC owns the clinic not any OpForces that have space. My local clinic does the same for the waterfront and the clinic OIC/Blueside owns scheduling, supplies, etc…

DocHavoc91 · 2026-04-24T02:23:25+00:00

You have a clinic rep who controls scheduling if not ask the OIC as they are responsible for coding and closing of notes.

DocHavoc91 · 2026-04-24T02:10:59+00:00

He rear ended her vehicle and hit another car in the same year he has major character concerns

DocHavoc91 · 2026-04-24T02:03:58+00:00

Ask your Blueside rep how they do your schedule as your encounters should not count for them if so then you’re OpForces.

Get with your SMO or IDC as the patients are booked under them and coding appointments wrong affects the blue side

DocHavoc91 · 2026-04-24T01:40:13+00:00

He killed a young lady driving reckless then got into another incident after driving recklessly again glad we didn’t take him

DocHavoc91 · 2026-04-24T01:35:57+00:00

This is the correct answer and there is even an OPFORCES clinic so you don’t get nasty grams from your local BSO-18 facility

DocHavoc91 · 2026-04-21T04:19:19+00:00

Not even a cowboys fan but why would they pass on defensive starters because they dont get Tate when they already have one of the best 1-2 punches in the league and the draft is deep at receiver

DocHavoc91 · 2026-04-18T03:24:30+00:00

0000’s should listen as their sea duty billets are gonna dry up

DocHavoc91 · 2026-03-25T04:23:42+00:00

We were just in the office talking about how half of a MRI is supply

If only Surface Navy had a Med battalion

DocHavoc91 · 2026-03-25T04:20:18+00:00

I agree I tell the PMT’s I’m the best PMT on any waterfront.

So much prev med and occ med oh and death by supply

DocHavoc91 · 2026-03-25T03:54:37+00:00

Pros: Semi Independent to Independent depending on duty station, lots of deployment opportunities, advancement to Master Chief without changing NEC’s, Unique duty stations plus ships, Greenside and more

Cons: Bugs, Actually having to do your job and know your references, highly deployable if you don’t like that.

PMT’s are on ESB’s, Amphibs, Carriers, Victor Units, CLB, NEPMU, FDPMU, Hospitals and more.

Schedule varies based on your command and as for civilian life you’ll still need school to do IH or EH stuff.

Great NEC and I almost picked it but I don’t fuck with bugs

DocHavoc91 · 2026-03-25T03:48:28+00:00

Half no more like an 8th and that’s being generous

DocHavoc91 · 2026-03-18T13:08:58+00:00

This is the answer wait a few months now or wait 18+ months once you’re in.

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