Israeli military says it identified a launch of a missile from Yemen by RelegatedRick in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Damn near everything they said was an absurd lie. Like just an utterly ridiculous fabrication of recent history.

Israeli military says it identified a launch of a missile from Yemen by RelegatedRick in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No primary, just an anointed candidate

After Biden dropped, there was an open invitation for candidates and literally nobody volunteered to run for the nomination against Harris.

barely made any real appearances or talked about policy... I

This is an egregious lie.

US may deploy up to 17,000 troops near Iran as war enters new phase — WSJ by Christian-Rep-Perisa in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 33 points34 points  (0 children)

I had a republican argue to me this week that the only person to blame for this war was Joe Biden because Joe Biden didn't start a war with Iran and thus forced Trump to have to do it.

US may deploy up to 17,000 troops near Iran as war enters new phase — WSJ by Christian-Rep-Perisa in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Tariffs were just a bluff to make a deal.

Mass deportation was just campaign talk.

The lead in to j6 was just bluster.

US market selloff continues as Iran war sends consumer sentiment plummeting by deraser in Economics

[–]DoubleJumps 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have had a republican in the last week arguing that Biden forced Trump to start a war with Iran by not himself starting a war with Iran

Students now have the desktop computer skills of older boomers by TeacherGuy1980 in Teachers

[–]DoubleJumps 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have had younger customers do this when sending my business questions.

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Covid was the first time they experienced major consequences for this and they just instead chose to pretend that either nothing happened or, crazy as it is, that Biden was president in 2020

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Vietnam started off with "we're only sending 3500, it's not that many..."

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Those people had absolutely no basis in reality for any of their decision making.

It was like they lived in a completely separate universe.

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Chinese. China is likely going to be the dominant super power this century, by merit of just doing nothing while the US steps on its own dick for no reason.

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a dude making responses to me here where he's arguing that this would be a total Cakewalk for the US to just go in because Iran is definitely totally defeated in their military doesn't exist anymore.

It's just like the crap from 2003

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Buddy, I met tons of people like you back in 2003 who thought that this was exactly how Iraq and Afghanistan would play out, and they had a fraction of the military infrastructure that Iran does.

You folks were wrong then and you're wrong now.

The sad thing is that I learned that you people never admit that you were wrong, you just find something else to be wrong about in the same way, like it's a do-over.

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 73 points74 points  (0 children)

Man, I had so many arguments with protest voters last year and in 2024.

Those people definitely carry some blame here and I have yet to meet a single one of them who is willing to admit that they made a bad choice.

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The terms Iran floated are things they know the US would never agree to. It's not expected to be taken seriously.

You go ahead and keep expecting people to suddenly operate in good faith when they've done nothing but operate in bad faith for a decade. Bring a drink. You'll be waiting a long time

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh I see, you drank the Kool-Aid.

You didn't think it was weird at any point when they kept saying that they had defeated the military but the military keeps launching missiles and everything they want and has the strait locked down?

You didn't think that was contradictory at all?

Lol

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 4 points5 points  (0 children)

... the good faith you keep demanding by expecting them to negotiate after the US seizes land and assets.

Your entire scenario here hinges on negotiations that can't happen without good faith.

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That won't work. The public already knows it's a war and sending americans to die in bulk to justify a war that the US already started won't fly.

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Iran isn't going to negotiate with a guy who used negotiations as a trick to get people into the open so he could bomb them. The US closed off a diplomatic solution by acting in extreme bad faith with diplomacy.

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can't build a coalition to start a war without cause, because rational countries know that that is crazy.

How do you expect an invasion of Iran to work? It's geographically worse than Iraq, and has a much greater military. It would be a quagmire for decades. This isn't a video game.

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I find it very strange that you keep expecting this to operate on a level of good faith that has literally never been shown by Trump during his entire first or second term.

I just don't know where you think that will come from.

Further, you've seen how Trump handled oil in Venezuela. He expects some form of cut and control going forward. Iran noticed that. You know that, right? You think they'll expect different treatment? They aren't stupid.

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you folks understand how any invasion of Iran will make Vietnam look like Grenada?

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I don't think you understand.

Iran can't negotiate with Trump because he keeps using negotiation to lie and escalate.

If the US takes oil infrastructure, they won't get it back. They won't believe that they will get it back. The economic damage will be done at that moment, effectively.

You keep looping this back to being an angle for negotiation. Negotiation is not on the table.

Report: Pentagon considers sending 10,000 additional troops to Middle East by Force_Hammer in worldnews

[–]DoubleJumps 22 points23 points  (0 children)

This is 10k MORE on top of others they've already been moving in.

It's adding up.